A question of ethics

[Cristo Rei]

Apparently most people dying of covid are dying alone... Their family not being allowed to visit... The argument is that they will catch covid...

Is this fair?
Is this right?

Put yourself in that situation... Your loved one is on a death bed and you have a choice to go and see them with the risk of catching covid... Would you?
I most definitely would... Even if it was a really bad virus that would most likely kill me, I would still go and be with them...

Now flip the script... I'm the one dying in hospital from a real bad virus... Do I want my loved ones risking death to visit me... No, I wouldn't but my heart would absolutely melt if they did...

So back to my original question... Is it right for them to not allow family to visit their loved ones... I say no... Not only that but I say it's unethical to do so...

You might say "well you can still see them behing glass or on a video call" but I don't believe it helps much at all. In fact it's demoralising to the point where it will be detrimental to your health and make you sicker...

The worse thing about being in jail is not being able to be with your family. Ask any former inmate and he'll agree. Actually don't ask cos it will only bring back bad memories... It's painful beyond words. It's torture multiplied... I pray for the people who are incarcerated

What if the hospital said you can't visit... Should you be able to pull out your loved one and take them home?
I say yes... The hospital shouldn't be able to stop a patient leaving. Especially to be with loved ones... Especially if their dying

I see these as being very important ethical questions that aren't being discussed. Please open up your heart, put yourselves in such situations, and let us know what you think and feel... Thanks

 

[Truman]

Apparently most people dying of covid are dying alone... Their family not being allowed to visit... The argument is that they will catch covid...

Is this fair?
Is this right?

Put yourself in that situation... Your loved one is on a death bed and you have a choice to go and see them with the risk of catching covid... Would you?
I most definitely would... Even if it was a really bad virus that would most likely kill me, I would still go and be with them...

Now flip the script... I'm the one dying in hospital from a real bad virus... Do I want my loved ones risking death to visit me... No, I wouldn't but my heart would absolutely melt if they did...

So back to my original question... Is it right for them to not allow family to visit their loved ones... I say no... Not only that but I say it's unethical to do so...

You might say "well you can still see them behing glass or on a video call" but I don't believe it helps much at all. In fact it's demoralising to the point where it will be detrimental to your health and make you sicker...

The worse thing about being in jail is not being able to be with your family. Ask any former inmate and he'll agree... It's painful beyond words. It's torture multiplied...

What if the hospital said you can't visit... Should you be able to pull out your loved one and take them home?
I say yes... The hospital shouldn't be able to stop a patient leaving. Especially to be with loved ones... Especially if their dying

I see these as being very important ethical questions that aren't being discussed. Please open up your heart, put yourselves in such situations, and let us know what you think and feel... Thanks

My theory (which I believe is right) is that the real reason people are dying alone is so that it will appear the virus is indeed serious, otherwise they would have to be heartless beasts to do this to sick people, right?
Well, I happen to believe the ones in control are heartless beasts who are manipulating every aspect of reality to further their Satanic agenda.
14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” - Jude 14,15

In the end, they'll get theirs...they are, after all, in the hands of the Almighty! Lol

 

[Taken]

Snowball effect...

Ever been employed whereby SICK employees go to work? Coughing, hacking, maybe, maybe not, trying to minimize their cough sprays, their hygiene.
Perhaps have no alloted "sick days" left.
Perhaps warned, threatened about "missing work".
Perhaps over extended on their debt, can't "afford to take off work".
Sick kids going to school, daycare, because "no home supervision".
Prescription "pumping" is advocated, age newborn to no limit.
Fast food, a regular diet for millions.

People have all different reasons, how, why, or why not they care for their own health, or are concerned about others.
People "regularly" solicit Business, Associations, Schools, Governments to MAKE POLICIES, LAWS, BI-LAWS, MANDATES...
( and that IS like "candy" to a Govt...whoop, whoop, they're begging us TO DICTATE what they can and can NOT do! )

Ofcourse it is NOT "FAIR", NOR "JUST".

You can NOT SERVE ALL of the People, fairly or justly, BY the WHIMS of a "few" people, or Lobbyists.

 

[Truman]

Snowball effect...

Ever been employed whereby SICK employees go to work? Coughing, hacking, maybe, maybe not, trying to minimize their cough sprays, their hygiene.
Perhaps have no alloted "sick days" left.
Perhaps warned, threatened about "missing work".
Perhaps over extended on their debt, can't "afford to take off work".
Sick kids going to school, daycare, because "no home supervision".
Prescription "pumping" is advocated, age newborn to no limit.
Fast food, a regular diet for millions.

People have all different reasons, how, why, or why not they care for their own health, or are concerned about others.
People "regularly" solicit Business, Associations, Schools, Governments to MAKE POLICIES, LAWS, BI-LAWS, MANDATES...
( and that IS like "candy" to a Govt...whoop, whoop, they're begging us TO DICTATE what they can and can NOT do! )

Ofcourse it is NOT "FAIR", NOR "JUST".

You can NOT SERVE ALL of the People, fairly or justly, BY the WHIMS of a "few" people, or Lobbyists.

We put up with each other, we tolerate each other, we endure each other...and in the end, we get by. What's happening today is nonsense!

 

[Pearl]

Apparently most people dying of covid are dying alone... Their family not being allowed to visit... The argument is that they will catch covid...

Is this fair?
Is this right?

Put yourself in that situation... Your loved one is on a death bed and you have a choice to go and see them with the risk of catching covid... Would you?
I most definitely would... Even if it was a really bad virus that would most likely kill me, I would still go and be with them...

Now flip the script... I'm the one dying in hospital from a real bad virus... Do I want my loved ones risking death to visit me... No, I wouldn't but my heart would absolutely melt if they did...

So back to my original question... Is it right for them to not allow family to visit their loved ones... I say no... Not only that but I say it's unethical to do so...

You might say "well you can still see them behing glass or on a video call" but I don't believe it helps much at all. In fact it's demoralising to the point where it will be detrimental to your health and make you sicker...

The worse thing about being in jail is not being able to be with your family. Ask any former inmate and he'll agree. Actually don't ask cos it will only bring back bad memories... It's painful beyond words. It's torture multiplied... I pray for the people who are incarcerated

What if the hospital said you can't visit... Should you be able to pull out your loved one and take them home?
I say yes... The hospital shouldn't be able to stop a patient leaving. Especially to be with loved ones... Especially if their dying

I see these as being very important ethical questions that aren't being discussed. Please open up your heart, put yourselves in such situations, and let us know what you think and feel... Thanks

I was in hospital with a suspected stroke recently and no visitors were allowed.

 

[Rita]

My theory (which I believe is right) is that the real reason people are dying alone is so that it will appear the virus is indeed serious, otherwise they would have to be heartless beasts to do this to sick people, right?

Did you think that one through Truman …….don’t you think the fact that they ‘ARE ‘ dying is enough to know that it’s serious !!!
The rules over here in the U.K. changed some time ago with regards to being allowed to go in and see those who are end of life……..it changed in the care homes as well.

I would hate not to have my children around me, but as a mum I would not want them to get sick either……..so, like you Cristo it’s a bit of a dilemma. I would hate to send my dad to hosp without my support , I would want to be there to hold his hand if it was end of life………

Rita

 

[Truman]

Did you think that one through Truman …….don’t you think the fact that they ‘ARE ‘ dying is enough to know that it’s serious !!!
The rules over here in the U.K. changed some time ago with regards to being allowed to go in and see those who are end of life……..it changed in the care homes as well.

I would hate not to have my children around me, but as a mum I would not want them to get sick either……..so, like you Cristo it’s a bit of a dilemma. I would hate to send my dad to hosp without my support , I would want to be there to hold his hand if it was end of life………

Rita

I believe that it is all a scam. I'm not saying that there is absolutely nothing to the Chinese virus. What happened to the flu? The overall picture is so large that people are just not perceiving it.
This, I believe, is all part of a co-operative effort of the deep state, the corrupt government, the secret societies, the global bankers, the tech giants such as Gates, Google, and FB, devil worshippers of all types, communists everywhere, the elites, and the dark forces of the world that are behind all of this to enslave mankind, and bring us into the one-world government that is spoke about in the book of Revelation.
The Great Tribulation is near.
World-wide, people are deceived, blinded by the god of this world. Most won't listen to me because they've been brainwashed by the main-stream media into believing that people like me are conspiracy theorists. My job is to speak the truth that I know. Then the blood of others will be on their head, not mine.
He is sovereign, and He is nobody's fool. Shalom.

 

[Rita]

I believe that it is all a scam. I'm not saying that there is absolutely nothing to the Chinese virus. What happened to the flu? The overall picture is so large that people are just not perceiving it.
This, I believe, is all part of a co-operative effort of the deep state, the corrupt government, the secret societies, the global bankers, the tech giants such as Gates, Google, and FB, devil worshippers of all types, communists everywhere, the elites, and the dark forces of the world that are behind all of this to enslave mankind, and bring us into the one-world government that is spoke about in the book of Revelation.
The Great Tribulation is near.
World-wide, people are deceived, blinded by the god of this world. Most won't listen to me because they've been brainwashed by the main-stream media into believing that people like me are conspiracy theorists. My job is to speak the truth that I know. Then the blood of others will be on their head, not mine.
He is sovereign, and He is nobody's fool. Shalom.

My comment was slightly tongue in cheek !
The rest of my post was linked to the OP …..didn’t really need a summery as I already know what you believe from other threads xx

 

[Cristo Rei]

I was in hospital with a suspected stroke recently and no visitors were allowed.

What was that like?
How long were you in for?
Why couldn't you have visitors?
Do you feel it was fair?
Tell us more pls

 

[amadeus]

I was in hospital with a suspected stroke recently and no visitors were allowed.

Last year my cousin was in one hospital in serious condition with heart issues. When Covid-19 was added to his problems, he was transferred to another hospital that was handling all of the Covid-19 cases for Oklahoma City. His wife, who had had Covid-19 first but was never hospitalized, got well at home. She visited him in the 1st hospital but was never allowed to visit him in the 2nd hospital even when they were sure he was dying. He died without a last personal contact visit with her last July.

 

[Truman]

My comment was slightly tongue in cheek !
The rest of my post was linked to the OP …..didn’t really need a summery as I already know what you believe from other threads xx

Thanks for sharing, Rita...wait a minute, this is not my thread! Oops! Lol

 

[Pearl]

What was that like?
How long were you in for?
Why couldn't you have visitors?
Do you feel it was fair?
Tell us more pls

I had some stroke-like symptoms and was admitted twice in as many weeks. The first time for three night and then a week later for four nights. Spending 12/13 hours in A&E - partly in a corridor - both times before going on the ward. Nobody was allowed onto the ward because of the covid restrictions so it got a bit lonely. I have since been told that my symptoms were not stroke related but due to 'complex migraine',

 

[Cristo Rei]

I had some stroke-like symptoms and was admitted twice in as many weeks. The first time for three night and then a week later for four nights. Spending 12/13 hours in A&E - partly in a corridor - both times before going on the ward. Nobody was allowed onto the ward because of the covid restrictions so it got a bit lonely. I have since been told that my symptoms were not stroke related but due to 'complex migraine',

Sorry to hear about that...
At least it wasn't a stroke

 

[Pearl]

Sorry to hear about that...
At least it wasn't a stroke

Yes, so relieved. Praise God for his grace and mercy.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I believe that it is all a scam. I'm not saying that there is absolutely nothing to the Chinese virus. What happened to the flu? The overall picture is so large that people are just not perceiving it.
This, I believe, is all part of a co-operative effort of the deep state, the corrupt government, the secret societies, the global bankers, the tech giants such as Gates, Google, and FB, devil worshippers of all types, communists everywhere, the elites, and the dark forces of the world that are behind all of this to enslave mankind, and bring us into the one-world government that is spoke about in the book of Revelation.
The Great Tribulation is near.
World-wide, people are deceived, blinded by the god of this world. Most won't listen to me because they've been brainwashed by the main-stream media into believing that people like me are conspiracy theorists. My job is to speak the truth that I know. Then the blood of others will be on their head, not mine.
He is sovereign, and He is nobody's fool. Shalom.

From everything I know about this evil system, having been born into their MK projects by bloodline ....and everything I've seen within my own circle ....as well as the stats (as you stated, the flu has virtually disappeared) ....I know this was preplanned, and big worldwide deception to move the world more quickly toward accepting the MOB. I'm not saying people aren't dying, but the truth around the deaths is being hidden. And no, I don't believe that people should forced to die alone. The truth is, people are being purposefully murdered. They aren't dying of "Covid." They are being killed off by the covid meds and "vaccines" which are causing the more rapid spread of variants.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I edited my last post, @Truman. Refresh if you want to see the rest.

 

[Truman]

I edited my last post, @Truman. Refresh if you want to see the rest.

Killing them slowly would produce more adrenochrome, wouldn't it?

 

[TLHKAJ]

@Truman Guess what? Speaking of google (etc) ...being tracked.... as soon as I posted (with my cellphone) my first post in this thread, I got a stupid covid vaccine propaganda commercial on youtube (on my TV/roku). Think our devices are communicating??? AI, much??!!?

 

[TLHKAJ]

Killing them slowly would produce more adrenochrome, wouldn't it?

Absolutely...the cult loves it. The more pain and suffering, the better they like it. I've seen it....my mother's death was considered a ritual killing.

 

[Truman]

@Truman Guess what? Speaking of google (etc) ...being tracked.... as soon as I posted (with my cellphone) my first post in this thread, I got a stupid covid vaccine propaganda commercial on youtube (on my TV/roku). Think our devices are communicating??? AI, much??!!?

I know...