Grailhunter
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Get well!Interesting, thank you.
I appreciate that.
5 day old burrito! Knew it tasted funny.
I am off to bed now. Getting much worse with the throwing up and the chills/shaking.
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Get well!Interesting, thank you.
I appreciate that.
5 day old burrito! Knew it tasted funny.
I am off to bed now. Getting much worse with the throwing up and the chills/shaking.
I don't know anyone who hasn't made out w/ their boyfriend, is there anyone on this forum who would be the first one I hear of? I'm not condoning this, I really am confused about what to think about it.
You are giving this person bad advice.Most are given so much bad advice and disinformation....it comes from every angle and especially as children you can get some weird stuff.
Don't touch that thing! It will make you go blind! LOL
The truth is always the better way.
If Satan lives in your couch, why are we so worried about whatz under the bed? LOL
One of the Early Church Fathers, Origen cut his member off because he thought it was tempting him. Ouch!
We do not live in the past, but the past can give us some wisdom.
God created everything. Be fruitful and multiply...how many Christians believe that God did not say that while Adam and Eve were still in Eden...Garden of Eden better translated as Paradise of Delights. Paradise was east of Eden, not called Eden.
Then God said, For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and the two shall become one flesh. This is the process that forms a marriage and would be the point of consummation of marriage for Jews and Christians until the Middle Ages.
Proverbs 5:18-19
May your fountain be blessed, and may you rejoice in the wife of your youth. A loving doe, a graceful deer—may her breasts satisfy you always, may you ever be intoxicated with her love. Guess what fountain means?
God created the process…if He would not have put it in the minds of men to have the desire to see and touch the twin firm roundnesses….would men have ever grown up or the human race survive? Would us menz, just sat on the river banks and drank wine and fished? LOL There are discussions that theorize that no part of civilization would have survived without sex drives…much less humanity itself.
This was all God. From the image of what we see. What we are attracted to. To the desire to caresses and make love, to produce life and have a family. To have and to hold….
But ya know, there are similarities with animals and we are not animals.
And that is the point…the difference is love and respect. What do we teach our young men and women? What is love without respect? Respect for ourselves and respect for the person that we love. Respect for the process, because it is a very powerful process! Just doing it because it is exciting and feels good, is playing with fire. Very irresponsible. Hen pecks and hugs…and snuggle on the couch while watching a good show and eating popcorn! Leave it at that until you decide that you want the relationship to be permanent.
Desire is a very powerful emotion and experience and it can be as intoxicating as the finest wine. For those that are dating that is the thing to consider. Once you start it rolling, how hard is it to stop?
Is there any benefit in turning the person we care for into a whore or a whore monger. Is that a respectful relationship? Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous…. Most will say this is referring to married people only, because they think people were having weddings in that time period, not the case. This verse is referring to both…the act of joining to form a marriage as well as the on going relationship.
When the time comes to join with the person you love…let it be done with honor, love, and respect. Think of it this way…you are making a lifelong memory…make one you can reflect on with joy. There is no sin in joining so do not let that tarnish your moment or memory. Then again there is nothing wrong with waiting until after the wedding ceremony.
There is no sin in making love before you are wedded, but you are married by that act of love making…biblically speaking. Then in our culture the respectful thing to do is to have a wedding to celebrate your union. Respectfully and with love is how Christians should conduct themselves in relationships….from the moment they lay eyes on each other to the moment that they cut the cake.
If you do what is right….there is no dirty, nasty, and sinful in any part of this.
They post so much about lust. Do they need someone saying pre-marital sex is not a sin and having sex is itself marriage?
No such thing as fornication then got it!Again, can you read? Go to your Bible and find a verse...anywhere that says you should have a wedding ceremony.
You have to have sex...to be married. No such thing as premarital sex.
That is how it was done, all through the Bible.
And fornication is a made up Latin word.
False beliefs on this stuff has been going on for centuries.
No such thing as fornication then got it!
Kool....shake hands.Why are people talking about sex? I was talking about touching, not sex
I did, @thelord's_pearl. It didn't start off that way, but I got saved in the middle of it and not before- and I was in a position where just leaving wasn't an option because of cohabitation. And things weren't healthy. Sometimes dangerous.And why is it that when I mentioned how I haven't met anyone who hasn't made out with their boyfriend prior to marriage, no one said "I did!" it's hypocriticial, isn't it? do you suppose the real answer is, you can do so but with boundaries? rather than being hypocritical of saying you can't when YOU didn't either!
And why is it that when I mentioned how I haven't met anyone who hasn't made out with their boyfriend prior to marriage, no one said "I did!" it's hypocriticial, isn't it? do you suppose the real answer is, you can do so but with boundaries? rather than being hypocritical of saying you can't when YOU didn't either!
I used to be really, really into all of that love stuff. Lol Overdone, really.Thank you @FluffyYellowDuck, I'm able to be patient so God will have someone for me who will be able to as well
I disagree with this very much and I think it's also a dangerous interpretation. You tell this to people and couples living in sin will continue to live in sin because they are convinced they are basically already married. They are not. And because marriage is not held honorably, it will not be taken seriously when one person flakes out, and they will continue to repeat this process with other people over and over again. This is common in our culture today. Will you judge people coming together outside of marriage if you believe they are now married?
I am with @Michael1985 that I believe a couple who comes together must marry, but scripture says the man can do what he wants with the virgin, but that they should marry.
"If anyone is worried that he might not be acting honorably toward the virgin he is engaged to, and if his passions are too strong and he feels he ought to marry, he should do as he wants. He is not sinning. They should get married."He does not say that they are married, but that they should. I will say this though, it makes sense that the church would put this in order to prevent adultery before marriage.
And honestly, in our flake out culture today, the person in question would have to ask themselves, can you really depend on and trust the person that you're dealing with? Or will they leave you high and dry after you've given yourself away to them? Lots of people will say lots of things to get what they want without consideration for the other person.
It is better to wait until after marriage, because love blinds a person but the reality is you can't always trust a person and you can end up heartbroken. Not that marriage will always prevent that either.
Under Moses's Law we'd be put to death for that. The marriage bed is undefiled but God will judge immoral people.Why are people talking about sex? I was talking about touching, not sex
i honestly wish i couold say that....And why is it that when I mentioned how I haven't met anyone who hasn't made out with their boyfriend prior to marriage, no one said "I did!" it's hypocriticial, isn't it? do you suppose the real answer is, you can do so but with boundaries? rather than being hypocritical of saying you can't when YOU didn't either!
because touching can lead to different forms of sex if no one stopped at some point...Why are people talking about sex? I was talking about touching, not sex
If the two people are not each other's spiritual husband and wife, they are coveting the spiritual husband/wife of someone else.or fornication?
Fornication includes all forms of sexual immorality. This includes two single people being sexually active with each other out of wedlock. Sexually active includes oral sex and fondling each other. Oral sex isn't approved of even in the marriage arrangement. The scriptures have never approved of sex between men and women unless they were married to each other.or fornication?