Muslim vs christian

[kcnalp]

People have a way of saying, "Muslims believe this or Christians believe that," when in fact, I suspect there is a great variety of thought among Muslims and Christians.

If you stick with the Bible you would know Allah is Satan leading Muslims to Hell fire.

 

[Bob Estey]

If you stick with the Bible you would know Allah is Satan leading Muslims to Hell fire.

Where does the Bible say that?

 

[marks]

In my opinion:
1. Muslims can go to heaven.

Paul writes:
When Gentiles [ e.g. Muslims] who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:14-16)

2. Yes, they believe in the same God, the God of Abraham, but have many false understandings of God, just as some Christians do.

Interestingly, when Paul writes, "accusing and excusing", the accusing is towards others, and excusing is towards thenself.

Paul likewise wrote that even though he knew nothing against himself, that fact didn't mean he was justified, but Jesus will judge when He comes, as He alone truly knows men's hearts. We do not truly know our own hearts.

Having a conscience and thinking you are OK in no wise means you are.

Christians believe in a God who is eternally Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and Muslims do not. Muslims catagorically and vehemently deny this. If you don't honor the Son, you do not honor the Father. If you reject the Son, you reject the Father.

Muslims do not - if you believe according to their teaching - do not believe in the same God.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I don’t know much about Islam, only what I’ve been told and what I’ve seen in the news and internet. I’ve been told that the Islamic god instructs the followers to lie to advance their agenda. My only experience with Muslims is watching them fly airplanes into towers and watching videos of them burning men alive in cages. I have no respect for that religion. I actually do remember 9/11. Seems half the country forgot about it. Is there prophecy in the Koran? I highly doubt it.

Allah is called the greatest deceiver. Allah, the biggest liar of them all?

I've known Muslims who are very nice people, but greatly deceived.

Much love!

 

[marks]

But can't God go by more than one name?

YHWH, and Iesous.

But not Allah, as their god is known. Jesus never told anyone to hound unbelievers to the death unless they capitulate, and then you can keep them as your second class citizens.

Jesus doesn't condone child rape.

So I'm thinking this isn't Him.

Much love!

 

[marks]

People have a way of saying, "Muslims believe this or Christians believe that," when in fact, I suspect there is a great variety of thought among Muslims and Christians.

Just so. It's like if I want to say something about what Catholics believe - I try to avoid that sort of thing for the most part, let them say for themselves what they believe - I'll clarify that "according to the Catachism or Council, such and such. The standard teaching of the religion or faith according to those who are the leaders of if.

So I can say that Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Son of God, not that there is no such thing as a Muslim who believes Jesus to be the Son of God, but it's written around the inside of their mosque that God doesn't have a Son, so, that's what I'm saying.

Much love!

 

[kcnalp]

Where does the Bible say that?

Muslims are kind of like JW's. They have a different Jesus than Jesus of the Bible. They have a phony savior. They love beheading Christians.

 

[amigo de christo]

Allah is called the greatest deceiver. Allah, the biggest liar of them all?

I've known Muslims who are very nice people, but greatly deceived.

Much love!

I have known very nice muslims , buddists , new agers , witches , no joke witches too , Atheists
YET they all lost . JESUS ALONE is the only savoir and we must BELIEVE THAT .
And watch out , for many also preach another jesus , which means they DONT FOLLOW or Truly KNOW the TRUE JESUS .
We got this blending of religoins going on , its what i warned and have been warning us about all along .
THIS RELIGION , THIS ALL INCLUSIVE , ITS growing faster than any other religoin in fact its taking over all the religoins already .
Its the final delusion that would spread the earth and bring the world and her religions to be as one RIGHT UNDER the beast .
SO we must make sure to double down on the true gospel and all that entails . DO SO till the last breath .

 

[reformed1689]

Hello all. I have 2 questions for everyone.
1. Do muslims goto Heaven?
2. Is the God in islam the same God in christianity?

No and No

 

[amigo de christo]

YHWH, and Iesous.

But not Allah, as their god is known. Jesus never told anyone to hound unbelievers to the death unless they capitulate, and then you can keep them as your second class citizens.

Jesus doesn't condone child rape.

So I'm thinking this isn't Him.

Much love!

There is only one word i would change . SO I AM KNOWING THIS ISNT JESUS . IT AINT HIM AT ALL MARK .
Though i knew what ya meant my friend . You saying the same thing . I just thought KNOWING was much more fitting a word .

 

[reformed1689]

In my opinion:
1. Muslims can go to heaven.

Paul writes:
When Gentiles [ e.g. Muslims] who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:14-16)

2. Yes, they believe in the same God, the God of Abraham, but have many false understandings of God, just as some Christians do.

Muslims do not follow Christ and therefore are eternally damned. To say anything else is heresy.

 

[amigo de christo]

No and No

Well that is right to the point . VERY GOOD MY FRIEND . Never let them doubt , TELL THEM THE TRUTH .

 

[reformed1689]

I would allow that Jesus may welcome into His kingdom Muslims and other non-believers based on how they treated His brothers and sisters (that’s us Christians) in this life. See the Parable of the Sheep and Goats, Matthew 25:31-46.

37 “Then the righteous will answer Him, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry, and feed You, or thirsty, and give You something to drink?
38 ‘And when did we see You as a stranger, and invite You in, or naked, and clothe You?
39 ‘And when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’
40 “And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it for one of the least of these brothers or sisters of Mine, you did it for Me.’"

If the King will so permit, I will testify on behalf of a Muslim friend in California who took me, one of the least of Jesus’s brothers, into his home, and on behalf of the Muslim couple down the street who brought food when my wife was recovering from surgery.

But that’s Jesus’s call, not mine. I hear He’s gracious.

Heresy

 

[amigo de christo]

In my opinion:
1. Muslims can go to heaven.

Paul writes:
When Gentiles [ e.g. Muslims] who have not the law do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness and their conflicting thoughts accuse or perhaps excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus. (Rom 2:14-16)

2. Yes, they believe in the same God, the God of Abraham, but have many false understandings of God, just as some Christians do.

Spoken just like a pope francis catholic . The answer is NO they wont .
And as far as what paul wrote , Look at it . HE says the law is WRITTEN on their hearts . THAT means the BELIEVE IN JESUS
cause that is what the NEW covenant was and is all about . I WILL write my laws in their minds and on their hearts .
This all inclusive delusion from the pope and popes is a lie . Rome just wants to sit top of the new one world religoin .
I cant believe folks dont even know the gospel anymore .

 

[amigo de christo]

1. I think anyone who obeys the Lord's commandments goes to heaven.
2. I suspect we worship the same God.

Everyone who is falling for this ruse that the christains and muslims worship the same god is only right in part .notice that god is not capitlized .
Its the god of this world who has blinded the eyes of those who truly do not believe .
As far as THE GOD . NOPE they follow satan . Even JESUS told the jews , THE JEWS , THE VERY JEWS
that if they believed NOT ON HIM , they will die in their sins . Truth is HE also told the UNBELIEVING jews
ye are of your father the devil . THEY told JESUS GOD was thier GOD and their Father .
JESUS said YOUR father is the devil . And HE also told , EVEN the unbeleiving jews
Of WHOM YE SAY HE IS YOUR GOD . IF YE LOVED GOD you WOULD LOVE ME FOR I CAME FORTH OF GOD .
WE better get in our bibles and stop listening to this all inclusive preachers who are leading our churches right to hell .
Yes , i must be very direct . John even told folks if one does not bring this gospel , Dont even bid them god speed , he who does
so is partaker of thier evil deeds . Please go back to just bible reading and be in prayer . DONT let the enemy take you into
this web of deciet , its end will be the second death . I know i sound direct and grave , BUT ITS VERY SERIOUS
you heed what i am saying . DO Not go down this road .

 

[amigo de christo]

Jesus made it very clear one had to believe in HIM , in that glorious gospel of eternal light , life and truth .
We cannot fall for this ruse going on that all the religoins are somehow following the same God . Its not true .
Oh they follow the same god , but not the same GOD . ONLY CHRISTAINS KNOW GOD . ONLY THOSE who beleive IN JESUS
have the FATHER . whether jew or gentile . The other religoins are false .

 

[amigo de christo]

Heresy

Right to the point . very good . Let no man beleive a lie .

 

[reformed1689]

1. I think anyone who obeys the Lord's commandments goes to heaven.

And nobody obeys all of his commandments so I guess we all go to hell?

 

[amigo de christo]

Nearly 70% of born-again Christians say other religions can lead to Heaven: study

THIS IS the falling away that was foretold .
But the poll is right on one thing , ITS is nearly seventy percent that believe this ruse . AND they AINT BORN AGAIN .
Anyone truly born of GOD , wont DENY GOD , and anyone who denies CHRIST , guess who they deny . GOD .
This is exactly what i have been at war with for years my friend . WE must stand and contend for the true faith .
NOT this many path lie stuff . THIS IS the FALLING away my friend . IT IS . Let us not buy it . BUY THE TRUTH INSTEAD
that only FAITH IN JESUS saves and SELL IT NOT . CLING TO IT to the END .
That if one CONFESSES JESUS by mouth and believes from the heart that GOD has rose HIM from the dead they shall be saved .
No other gospel exists . only false ones . Cling to the original faith that was once delivered by JESUS and those who had heard him .
NEVER LET IT GO . CLING TO it . JESUS IS THE ONLY HOPE and ONE MUST BELIEVE .

 

[Bob Estey]

Muslims are kind of like JW's. They have a different Jesus than Jesus of the Bible. They have a phony savior. They love beheading Christians.

You say they love beheading Christians. Apparently a few do. Is it fair to say they all do?