The 'blessed virgin Mary'

[Marymog]

Apparently YOU did not LEARN a very important message that the Disciples Learned and revealed...

Col 1
[9] For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;

Guess WHO POSSESSES Gods “spiritual understanding”....OF HIS WORD...

Phil 4:
[7] And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Guess WHO Gives HIS Understanding to those that belong TO HIM...

2 Tim 2:
[7] Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

OOPS on you! Looks like YOU put your Trust in receiving “understanding” from the WRONG “father”. What is ‘your holy fathers’ name again...
pope something?
Still laughing?

Yup...I'm still laughing. Only harder now. You have truly fulfilled what is written in Scripture: 2 Peter 3:16

 

[robert derrick]

God alone searches the heart. Are there some catholics who are saved - barely, YES.

The catholic faith is heresy as it violates the Sabbath Rest of God.

For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

The LORD Jesus Christ confirmed this as well.

Just so you understand what the LORD is saying here to us TODAY = i work on both Satuday and Sunday.

Now, i will let you dwell on this and see if you can find His validation of this in the Gospel.

No need to dwell on anything. There is no commandment of a physical Sabbath in the law of Christ, as there was in the Law of Moses.

We enter into His rest by ceasing from our own works, and we are to labor to do so.

A physical rest is still a good for health, as is circumcision of the flesh. Just no more law of God in Christ Jesus.

Both Mary and Jesus kept the Sabbath according to the law of Moses, which Christ gave to him in the mount.

 

[robert derrick]

Opponents of the Church often attempt to discredit Catholicism by attempting to show similarities between it and the beliefs or practices of ancient paganism. This fallacy is frequently committed by Fundamentalists against Catholics, by Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and others against both Protestants and Catholics, and by atheists and skeptics against both Christians and Jews...

...The pagan influence fallacy has not gone away in the twentieth century, but newer archaeology and more mature scholarship have diminished its influence. Yet there are still many committing it. In Protestant circles, numerous works have continued to popularize the claims of Alexander Hislop, most notably the comic books of Jack Chick and the book Babylon Mystery Religion by the young Ralph Woodrow (later Woodrow realized its flaws and wrote The Babylon Connection? repudiating it and refuting Hislop). Other Christian and quasi-Christian sects have continued to charge mainstream Christianity with paganism, and many atheists have continued to repeat—unquestioned—the charges of paganism leveled by their forebears.

Whenever one encounters a proposed example of pagan influence, one should demand that its existence be properly documented, not just asserted. The danger of accepting an inaccurate claim is too great. The amount of misinformation in this area is great enough that it is advisable never to accept a reported parallel as true unless it can be demonstrated from primary source documents or through reliable, scholarly secondary sources. @robert derrick never does this.

Is Catholicism Pagan?

Is Catholicism Pagan? No. Is Mary Mother of God pagan? Yes. Certainly.

The Ever-Virgin and Mother with the Immaculate Conception and Sacred Womb for Christ.

The Ever-Virgin and Mother with Pure Birth and Sacred Fire for Rome.

Which is which? Mary or Vesta?

Unless it can be demonstrated from primary source documents or through reliable, scholarly secondary sources. robert derrick never does this.

No need to. It speaks for itself. Which is what I do. Simple.

Mariologers never refute the rebranding of Vesta as Mary. It's not possible. It speaks for itself. And since all the Maryiology stuff is found nowhere in Scripture, than that speaks for itself too.

People are free to believe what they want. Christians stick with Scripture and Jesus only.

The schism of the Catholic church is between the common faith of Jesus and the addition to it of old Roman Vesta, recalled 'Mary'.

Those who choose to believe in Mary alongside Jesus are double minded in the faith and need to purify their hearts of Vesta-Mary to see and worship Jesus only.

 

[Mungo]

AMEN "Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient." AMEN

The Gospel of John are empty words according to you................!!!

You were directed away from man's words to the WORD = just 3 easy chapters to read, study and find God's Answer.

Please get back to me when you find HIS WORD as being all sufficient for your Salvation.

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron,
forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. But reject profane and old wives’ fables, and exercise yourself toward godliness. For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come. This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance. For to this end we both labor and suffer reproach,
because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.
These things command and teach.
1 Timothy 4:1-11

Still no evidence.
Just more waffle and bluster.

 

[Mungo]

No need to dwell on anything. There is no commandment of a physical Sabbath in the law of Christ, as there was in the Law of Moses.

We enter into His rest by ceasing from our own works, and we are to labor to do so.

A physical rest is still a good for health, as is circumcision of the flesh. Just no more law of God in Christ Jesus.

Both Mary and Jesus kept the Sabbath according to the law of Moses, which Christ gave to him in the mount.

WOW! robert derrick tells the truth for once.

 

[Mungo]

Is Catholicism Pagan? No. Is Mary Mother of God pagan? Yes. Certainly.

The Ever-Virgin and Mother with the Immaculate Conception and Sacred Womb for Christ.

The Ever-Virgin and Mother with Pure Birth and Sacred Fire for Rome.

Which is which? Mary or Vesta?

Unless it can be demonstrated from primary source documents or through reliable, scholarly secondary sources. robert derrick never does this.

No need to. It speaks for itself. Which is what I do. Simple.

Mariologers never refute the rebranding of Vesta as Mary. It's not possible. It speaks for itself. And since all the Maryiology stuff is found nowhere in Scripture, than that speaks for itself too.

People are free to believe what they want. Christians stick with Scripture and Jesus only.

The schism of the Catholic church is between the common faith of Jesus and the addition to it of old Roman Vesta, recalled 'Mary'.

Those who choose to believe in Mary alongside Jesus are double minded in the faith and need to purify their hearts of Vesta-Mary to see and worship Jesus only.

Ah! It couldn't last. More lies again.

 

[Taken]

Yup...I'm still laughing. Only harder now.

WOW, you are laughing Because you did not know Gods gives men understanding, and when you were shown the Truth in Scripture that Gods gives men understanding....That is funny to you.

That IS SAD!

 

[robert derrick]

forgiven yes but also preserved from future falls into sin

Mary was preserved

So, it's all about Mary's Preserves?

How do we know it's the preserves she made? Is there a recipe? Is there proof it's hers? What does it taste like?

Is that all this stuff is about? Some sacred tasting preserves?

 

[robert derrick]

mary... God is her son

Still waiting on an answer. Is Mary the mother of the Lord God Almighty? The one true God the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost?

 

[Marymog]

WOW, you are laughing Because you did not know Gods gives men understanding, and when you were shown the Truth in Scripture that Gods gives men understanding....That is funny to you.

That IS SAD!

No, I'm laughing at you because you have deceived yourself into thinking that God has given YOU understanding on how to properly interpret Scripture into the Truth. Show me in Scripture where God has given each individual man the ability to do that and I will join your cult. Otherwise I will stick with Scripture (and not follow you, a mere man) that says the church is the pillar and foundation of truth and The Church decides who is to be treated as a pagan and tax collector and that The Church decides what all Christians are to believe (Council of Jerusleum) and that we are to obey our Church elders etc. etc etc....

 

[Taken]

The catholic faith is heresy as it violates the Sabbath Rest of God.

For six days work is to be done, but the seventh day is a day of sabbath rest, holy to the LORD.
Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day is to be put to death.

The LORD Jesus Christ confirmed this as well in His Gospel.

Just so you understand what the LORD is saying here to us TODAY = i work on both Saturday and Sunday.

Now, i will let you dwell on this and see if you can find His validation of this in the Gospel.

God has not changed His Mind on the 7th Day of REST for His People - anyone who works on it will not be accepted.

READ the Gospel of John and you will find the LORD saying this in His own words - REST or Condemnation

Please read the Gospel of John and you will find the ANSWER in the first 3 chapters.

Heresy is NOT BELIEVING a “long standing accepted teaching”.
Fact IS: Catholicism IS a “long standing accepted teaching”.
Problem IS: Catholicism IS a “long standing CORRUPTED accepted teaching”.

Jesus settles the Issue. Jesus IS the TRUTH. It is every individuals Freewill to Trust to Believe as they Freely choose to Believe.

The Catholic Church gets ALL of the Credit for their corrupt teaching.

 

[TEXBOW]

And you tell yourself what to believe. I rely on The Church, which is the pillar and foundation of TRUTH. You believe YOU are the pillar and foundation of truth.....

Why the Holy Spirit matters | Simply Catholic
Conflicted Mary, I think even others in the CC understand that the Holy Spirit trumps any man you have elevated to deity. Without the Holy Spirit, it will all be foolishness to you.

 

[TEXBOW]

Ummmm....I don't understand any of this.....

Until you understand the scriptures below you will see the role of the Holy Spirit as foolishness.
Dead Spirit
Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
If not, the Spirit is dead and the body (flesh) is in charge.


John 15:26-27
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: 27 And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

Ephesians 1:17
That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Ephesians 3:16
That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

1 Corinthians 2:12
Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 Corinthians 2:13
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth,(that would include a Pope) but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
I think you might be hanging your soul on a man's wisdom.

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Do you know any "natural" men?

Jude 19
These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
Promote the flesh and you do not have the Spirit.

Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

 

[David in NJ]

No need to dwell on anything. There is no commandment of a physical Sabbath in the law of Christ, as there was in the Law of Moses.

We enter into His rest by ceasing from our own works, and we are to labor to do so.

A physical rest is still a good for health, as is circumcision of the flesh. Just no more law of God in Christ Jesus.

Both Mary and Jesus kept the Sabbath according to the law of Moses, which Christ gave to him in the mount.

A.) AMEN to your words here: "We enter into His rest by ceasing from our own works, and we are to labor to do so."

B.) Did you SEE my words here: "Just so you understand what the LORD is saying here to us TODAY = i work on both Saturday and Sunday."

C.) Can you find the Sabbath Rest Commandment that our LORD spoke in the Gospel of John chapters 1-3 ???

Know your ABC's

 

[David in NJ]

Heresy is NOT BELIEVING a “long standing accepted teaching”.
Fact IS: Catholicism IS a “long standing accepted teaching”.
Problem IS: Catholicism IS a “long standing CORRUPTED accepted teaching”.

Jesus settles the Issue. Jesus IS the TRUTH. It is every individuals Freewill to Trust to Believe as they Freely choose to Believe.

The Catholic Church gets ALL of the Credit for their corrupt teaching.

Heresy is perverting the long standing Word of God.

Where and when, in Scripture, is the first heresy recorded???

 

[David in NJ]

Still no evidence.
Just more waffle and bluster.

Pancakes are my favorite but waffles will do - just make sure yo don't waffle on the Word of God.

Bluster describes the RCC and all it's 'eye candy' to the lost and undiscerning.

Bluster is also recorded in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2.

 

[David in NJ]

Yup...I'm still laughing. Only harder now. You have truly fulfilled what is written in Scripture: 2 Peter 3:16

If you understood the Apostles writings you would instantly ditch your avatar and run from the Harlot just as many have done under the Precious Blood of Christ.
We who do, hear God's Voice from Heaven.

 

[Taken]

No, I'm laughing at you because you have deceived yourself into thinking that God has given YOU understanding on how to properly interpret Scripture into the Truth.

You are so blind and deaf, my physically deaf daughter hears what you are unable.
Father God is neither a DECEIVER or a LIAR, but I do have suspect of “your holy father” of whom I credit for keeping you blind and deaf.

Show me in Scripture where God has given each individual man the ability to do that

Why would I SHOW YOU IN SCRIPTURE, WHAT YOU CLAIM?
What a Ridiculous request!
WHO SAID God “HAS GIVEN EACH INDIVIDUAL MAN” ? YOU said that, NOT ME!

ARE you REALLY, so far out of touch, YOU DO NOT COMPREHEND, the difference BETWEEN....WITH GOD.....and WITHOUT GOD?

ARE you REALLY, so far out of touch, YOU DO NOT COMPREHEND, God gives His UNDERSTANDING to men.......WHO.......ARE WITH GOD?

ARE you REALLY, so far out of touch, YOU DO NOT COMPREHEND....
MOST OF THE MEN in the World are OF the World and NOT WITH GOD?

and I will join your cult

LOL...you are already IN A CULT....Using Jesus Name....but with “your own holy father”, heading the helm, multiple fathers, with mistresses, out of wed-lock children, little boy toys, exalting your sinless Mary, statue bowing, incense waving, “holy water”, long robes, pointy hats and bejeweled Crowns,
Parading in crowds to be seen and revered, Bribery, on and on....
Seems you are content with your ears being tickled with a false gospel, and when the Truth is revealed to you, verified with Scripture....
** You Dishonestly, CHANGE WHAT I SAID, and then disagree...and make a snarky claim.

My Post #2003
Guess WHO Gives HIS Understanding to those that belong TO HIM...

Ya think those that “DO NOT BELONG TO HIM,,,are WITH HIM”....ARE given His Understanding?
The Lord giveth understanding in all things....
NOT ALL MEN!

Not at all surprised. On PAR!

 

[theefaith]

Your teaching is so corrupt, Speaking a mans Lie and trying to pass a mans Lie off AS IF....it is Gods Truth...
by “men MAKING” Mary Equally WITHOUT SIN...As ONLY Applies to the
Lord God Almighty Himself.

What a horribly dishonorable thing to do to Mary, (behind her back, after her own death), that she has NO opportunity to SAY....knock it off!

Scripture clearly teaches....Living Earthly men were PROMISED the gift of Salvation, AFTER Jesus bodily returned to Heaven.
Scripture clearly reveals.....WHEN Jesus’ disciples and other people, including Mary......RECEIVED their Salvation.

It is a mans utter nonsense to teach such a LIE, that the SINLESS, receive SALVATION!

Mary—>a SINNER....
along with the disciples—> SINNERS
and others —-> SINNERS
Received “their” salvation at the same time...AFTER Jesus returned to Heaven!

Horrible, Horrible, Horrible....to disparage Mary’s memory!

mary must be immaculate/ worthy to receive the grace of salvation for us cos we were not
Lk 1:30 found our salvation

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Matt 1:21 Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation! This reflects the immaculate conception of Mary and the miraculous conception of Jesus!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!
Lk 1:38 consented to our salvation!

A good tree (immaculate conception) Lk 1:49 God has done this and it is marvelous in our eyes!

Isa 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

A sinner would be an evil tree with evil fruit, but the fruit of Mary is salvation!

Mary brings in the good fruits of our redemption and salvation!

 

[theefaith]

Proving Mary most holy, ever virgin mother of God & mother of our salvation is not a sinner!

Lk 1:28 Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women.

How can God fill a sinner with grace, and remain a sinner?
Hail Mary full of grace!

How can the Lord be with sinner?
The lord is with thee!

How can sinner be blessed!
Blessed art thou, and all generations shall call me blessed!

Lk 1: 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

How can a sinner be the mother of God?

Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

How could sinner be faithful?

Lk 1: 46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

How could a sinner magnify the Lord?

Lk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

How could sinner be humble?

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

How could sinner be the immaculate conception and the have the Holy Spirit accomplish the Miraculous conception of Jesus in Her?

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

How could sinner be a perpetual Virgin bringing forth the savior of the world?

Jn 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

How could sinner be our spiritual mother?

Lk 2:30 I have seen my salvation!

How could a sinner be the mother of our salvation?