HERESY?

[Enoch111]

So is your old nature dead or not?

How about yours? So let's go back to square one (even though you are unteachable):

1. WHY DID PAUL SAY THESE WORDS TO CHRISTIANS IF THE SIN NATURE HAD ALREADY BEEN ERADICATED? 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. (Rom 6:12,13)
2. WHY WOULD PAUL SAY THIS ABOUT HIMSELF, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE APPLICABLE TO ALL CHRISTIANS? For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

So you have been telling the world that you are the exception to what even the apostle Paul admits about himself? Amazing delusion!

 

[Grailhunter]

1. Had you studied the original Scofield Reference Bible personally (which I have done and which I own) you would have commended C. I. Scofield for the excellent work he has done. Instead you have been slandering him.

2. Neither Ryrie, nor Scofield, nor Darby originated the distinction between the Church and Israel. It was Paul himself who first made it clear to Christians in Romans 11 that God has an eternal plan and purpose for redeemed and restored Israel (also called "Jacob") apart from the Church. Every Christian should have been on the same page regarding this matter. And what Paul said briefly is fully revealed in the OT. So this is a Bible doctrine, not merely a Dispensational doctrine.

ROMANS 11: GOD'S FUTURE GRACIOUS PLAN FOR ISRAEL
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Scofield was Calvinist....no credibility.

 

[Enoch111]

Scofield was Calvinist....no credibility.

Which shows that you know nothing about Scofield. No credibility.

 

[Grailhunter]

Which shows that you know nothing about Scofield. No credibility.

Now that is a topic....did Scofield believe in double predestination? Or did he believe in free will?

 

[Davy]

Obviously you didn't understand a thing I said.

Oh, I understand your slander at trying to attack my credibility in God's Word. Thing is, your response shows you are not honest, because you keep denying the Scripture evidence I gave.

 

[post]

First lesson.....
The Passover occurs on the night of the full moon. The Hebrew months resets on the New Moon and 15 days later is the Full Moon. The days of the week do not reset....that is why Passover occurs on different days.

5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats: 6 And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening. Exodus 12:5-6 The reference to the 14th is reference to the day of preparation....they kill the goat or lamp and eat all of it at the Passover meal. Then Passover starts at dusk....or at the rise of the Full Moon. That starts the Passover holy day and continues on till dusk on the 15th.

The 15th day of the month of Nisan. Why is the month called Nisan now and not Abib? It is a proper noun to call it Abib. It is the first month of the Jewish ecclesiastical year, which is nearly identical to the Gregorian month. Nisan was the name given to this month after the Babylonish captivity.

So the calculation for Passover is the evening of the first full Moon after the Vernier Equinox (Spring) That is the evening of the 14th....the day is the 15th.

On the early morning of the 14th (The morning cock had crowed for Peter John 18:27) The Apostles were watching Christ with Pilot but they did not enter because they wanted to eat the actual Passover meal that evening. -->They lead Jesus therefore from Caiaphas into the Praetorium: and it was early; and they themselves entered not into the Praetorium, that they might not be defiled, but might eat the Passover. John 18:28 The meal that Christ had eaten with the Apostles was not the actual Passover meal, because He would not be with them for the actual Passover meal. But the Apostles were hoping to eat the actual Passover meal that would occur that evening of the 14th....Friday.

So it was the Last Supper and the betrayal in the garden of Gethsemane occurred on the 13th day Thursday. The cock crowed in the morning of the 14th and Christ was before Pilot in the early morning on the 14th and crucified on the same day....Of course this all has to occur before dusk on Friday the 14th or there would have been a Jewish uprising.

So as was the custom....the Jews were eating the Passover meal shortly after Christ died on the cross. And as you can see in the scriptures there was a concern to get Christ's body off the cross before dusk so it would not be on the Cross for the Sabbath or Passover that both started at dusk.

Ahem:

Exodus 12:6
And yee shall keepe it vntill the fourteenth day of this moneth: then al the multitude of the Congregation of Israel shall kill it at euen.

Leviticus 23:5
In the first moneth, and in the fourteenth day of the moneth at euening shalbe ye Passeouer of the Lord.

Numbers 9:3
In the fourtenth day of this moneth at euen, ye shall keepe it in his due season: according to all the ordinances of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof shall ye keepe it.

 

[Bob Estey]

Not sure where this should be...
the study of God seemed appropriate (maybe).

Every denomination has some teaching or doctrine that we would not agree with.

How would you explain the difference between an
incorrect teaching
and
a heretical teaching...?

IOW,,,when does an incorrect teaching become heretical?

Thanks.

I would call it heretical when the teaching directly contradicts what God or Jesus are quoted as saying in the Bible. I would also say it is heretical to say that priests intentionally misquoted God in the Bible to promote their own agendas.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Oh, I understand your slander at trying to attack my credibility in God's Word. Thing is, your response shows you are not honest, because you keep denying the Scripture evidence I gave.

..

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Actually you are the one who is constantly and carnally misinterpreting Scripture. And it would be a total waste of time to show you your errors.

You can make all the vile statements about me you like. It doesn't bother me. I care about you, and hope that the scriptures I provide against your false beliefs can change your mind and finally open your spiritual eyes to the truth. Don't you know that your beliefs are a mockery to the holiness of God and His power to create in us His divine nature. We have been set free from our old nature, except for those who hang on to it. 2 Peter 1:2-4; Romans 6:1 - 16.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I would call it heretical when the teaching directly contradicts what God or Jesus are quoted as saying in the Bible.

I have found that these false teachings are so enticing and easy to fulfill, that those who believe them just have itching ears. They love darkness and have never turned to the light. Satan doesn't care if you believe in Jesus, just as long as you keep willfully and knowingly sinning. Then he knows you actually belong to him. These people even reason they can just ask for forgiveness later and their sin is as if it hadn't been committed. God will not be mocked like that!

 

[Grailhunter]

Ahem:

Exodus 12:6
And yee shall keepe it vntill the fourteenth day of this moneth: then al the multitude of the Congregation of Israel shall kill it at euen.

Leviticus 23:5
In the first moneth, and in the fourteenth day of the moneth at euening shalbe ye Passeouer of the Lord.

Numbers 9:3
In the fourtenth day of this moneth at euen, ye shall keepe it in his due season: according to all the ordinances of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof shall ye keepe it.

Ya, that is right they are going to keep until it the fourteenth day of the month.....and then that evening they will eat it at the Passover meal. What part of this are you not getting?

 

[post]

Ya, that is right they are going to keep until it the fourteenth day of the month.....and then that evening they will eat it at the Passover meal. What part of this are you not getting?

The 14th begins at sundown. The Levitical month begins with the moon.

 

[Grailhunter]

The 14th begins at sundown. The Levitical month begins with the moon.

The Hebrew month begins with the New Moon. 15 days later Passover "day" is on the 15th. But Passover begins the evening before on the 14th. The Full Moon...always and forever.

The LORD’s Passover begins at twilight on the fourteenth day of the first month. Leviticus 23:5

 

[Moriah's Song]

Messiah

1. Will come and take over the world (Is 9: 6-7)
2. Will come and rule the world (Micah 5: 2 - 5)
3. Will vanquish his foes as he rules with a rod of Iron (Ps 2: 7-9)

Gods servant (suffering)

1. Not a king but a servant (Is 53: 2-3)
2. Is rejected oppressed and persecuted (Is 53: 7)
3. He suffered a horrific death (Is 53: 8)
4. His death atones for our sins (is 53: 5, 6, 8)
5. He is raised fro the dead (Is 53: 10)

Looking at these two things, You can not look at them and say they are the same person. Not to mention the fact. The servant was NEVER called the messiah.

Perhaps this will help you.

Jhn 1:41 - He first found his brother Simon, and said to him, "We have found the Messiah" (which means Christ).
Jhn 4:25 - The woman said to him, "I know that Messiah is coming (he who is called Christ); when he comes, he will show us all things."​

Once again these two words are the same and are the same individual:

Hebrew: Messiah
Greek: Christ​

Messiah was the Hebrew name for the NT Christ. Jesus and was his name before the crucifixion. After the cross his name was Christ. Savior, King, Lord, Son of God and many other titles are among others attributed to him.

Isa 9:6-7...a)For to us a child is born, b)to us a son is given; c)and the government will be upon his shoulder, and his name will be called "d)Wonderful Counselor, e)Mighty God, f)Everlasting Father, g)Prince of Peace." 7h-Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end, i)upon the throne of David, and over his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and for evermore. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will do this."​

Below is the OT and then the NT fulfillment of Isaiah 9:6&7.

OT- Is 9:6a..."Unto us a child is born..."
NT - Luke 2:11..."...for to you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord."

OT- Is 9:6b... "to us a son is given;"
NT- Jhn 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son"

OT- Is 9:6c..." and the government will be upon his shoulder"
NT- Mat 28:18 - And Jesus said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me."

1 Cor 15:24-25..."Then comes the end, when [Christ] delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power."​

OT- Is 9:6d..."Wonderful Counselor,
NT- Jhn 14:16...And I will pray the Father, and he will give you another Counselor, to be with you for ever,

OT- Is 9:6e..."Mighty God"
NT- Rev 4:8... "Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!"

OT- Is 9:6f...Everlasting Father,
NT- Rom 9:6..."...according to the command of the Eternal God,"

OT- Is 9:6g... "Prince of Peace."
NT- Eph 2:14..."For he is our peace, who has made us [both: Jews &Gentiles] one..."​

OT- Is 9:7h... Of the increase of his government and of peace there will be no end,
NT- Mat 28:19..."Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

OT- Is 9:7i... "...upon the throne of David
NT- Is 9:7... "He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David,"

OT- Is 9:7 j..."...and over his kingdom, to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from this time forth and for evermore.
NT- Luke 1:32..."... and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end."​

Luk 24:44 - Then he said to them, "These are my words which I spoke to you, while I was still with you, that everything written about me in the law of Moses and the prophets and the psalms must be fulfilled."

 

[BloodBought 1953]

How about yours? So let's go back to square one (even though you are unteachable):

1. WHY DID PAUL SAY THESE WORDS TO CHRISTIANS IF THE SIN NATURE HAD ALREADY BEEN ERADICATED? 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. (Rom 6:12,13)
2. WHY WOULD PAUL SAY THIS ABOUT HIMSELF, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE APPLICABLE TO ALL CHRISTIANS? For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

So you have been telling the world that you are the exception to what even the apostle Paul admits about himself? Amazing delusion!

Later on, shortly before his death , Paul admitted that he had never achieved the level of perfection that he desired......apparently somebody in this Forum did....

 

[1stCenturyLady]

1. WHY DID PAUL SAY THESE WORDS TO CHRISTIANS IF THE SIN NATURE HAD ALREADY BEEN ERADICATED? 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. (Rom 6:12,13)

I see you are like a con artist picking and choosing to deceive. So let's read what you didn't believe. You only agree with 12 and 13, There is so much more you missed. Read 1-23

14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? 17 But God be thanked that though you were slaves of sin, yet you obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine to which you were delivered. 18 And having been set free from sin, you became slaves of righteousness.

This chapter shows that you still have a choice. You still have free will and you can choose sin - but Paul says -don't choose sin. You've been freed from sin, so why go back to it when you don't have to? I've never wanted to go back. When God spoke to me the first time and I knew He really existed and that He loved me enough to actually speak to me, I fell madly in love with Him. I would no more sin against Him now if you paid me a billion dollars. Besides, not sinning when I don't have to is such a freedom. And the reward is He keeps talking to me and answering all my prayers. Before I heard His voice that night in 1977, not one of my prayers in thirty years had been answered.

2. WHY WOULD PAUL SAY THIS ABOUT HIMSELF, WHICH WOULD ALSO BE APPLICABLE TO ALL CHRISTIANS? For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do. Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

Again you quote Romans 7 which depicts someone with the sin nature in tact before Christ and the freedom He gives who lived under the law??? ROFL

So you have been telling the world that you are the exception to what even the apostle Paul admits about himself? Amazing delusion!

cc: @GodsGrace I see you liked Enoch's post. So please read my answer to him. I hope your eyes open to the true meaning of scripture. Enoch still believes false doctrine of demons that contradicts why Jesus came. - To take away our sin and give us His divine nature. 2 Peter 1:2-4. It all has to do with Adam's sin, and undoing the consequences of it. Adam lost his divine nature and took upon himself the devil's nature. Jesus died to undo that so we can live for all eternity with a Holy God, and to do so we must be like Him. Jesus gives us His own nature so we can be.

 

[Enoch111]

No one wants a degree from a person who thinks Pascha is the 15th.

On the other hand when you include the Feast of Unleavened Bread with the Passover, it does become Pascha (from the 14th of Nisan to the 21st of Nisan).

 

[post]

On the other hand when you include the Feast of Unleavened Bread with the Passover, it does become Pascha (from the 14th of Nisan to the 21st of Nisan).

"In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at evening, you shall eat unleavened bread, until the twenty-first day of the month at evening. For seven days no leaven shall be found in your houses, since whoever eats what is leavened, that same person shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he is a stranger or a native of the land. You shall eat nothing leavened; in all your dwellings you shall eat unleavened bread.’ ”
Then Moses called for all the elders of Israel and said to them,
“Pick out and take lambs for yourselves according to your families, and kill the Passover lamb. And you shall take a bunch of hyssop, dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two doorposts with the blood that is in the basin. And none of you shall go out of the door of his house until morning. For the Lord will pass through to strike the Egyptians; and when He sees the blood on the lintel and on the two doorposts, the Lord will pass over the door and not allow the destroyer to come into your houses to strike you. And you shall observe this thing as an ordinance for you and your sons forever. It will come to pass when you come to the land which the Lord will give you, just as He promised, that you shall keep this service. And it shall be, when your children say to you, ‘What do you mean by this service?’ that you shall say, ‘It is the Passover sacrifice of the Lord, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt when He struck the Egyptians and delivered our households.’ ”
So the people bowed their heads and worshiped. Then the children of Israel went away and did so; just as the Lord had commanded Moses and Aaron, so they did.
And it came to pass at midnight that the Lord struck all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh who sat on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the dungeon, and all the firstborn of livestock. So Pharaoh rose in the night, he, all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt, for there was not a house where there was not one dead.
Then he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said,
“Rise, go out from among my people, both you and the children of Israel. And go, serve the Lord as you have said. Also take your flocks and your herds, as you have said, and be gone; and bless me also.”
And the Egyptians urged the people, that they might send them out of the land in haste. For they said, “We shall all be dead.” So the people took their dough before it was leavened, having their kneading bowls bound up in their clothes on their shoulders. Now the children of Israel had done according to the word of Moses, and they had asked from the Egyptians articles of silver, articles of gold, and clothing. And the Lord had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they granted them what they requested. Thus they plundered the Egyptians.
Then the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, besides children. A mixed multitude went up with them also, and flocks and herds — a great deal of livestock. And they baked unleavened cakes of the dough which they had brought out of Egypt; for it was not leavened, because they were driven out of Egypt and could not wait, nor had they prepared provisions for themselves.
Now the sojourn of the children of Israel who lived in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years — on that very same day — it came to pass that all the armies of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. It is a night of solemn observance to the Lord for bringing them out of the land of Egypt. This is that night of the Lord, a solemn observance for all the children of Israel throughout their generations.
(Exodus 12:18-42)​

 

[marksman]

Please show me where "Mass" was celebrated ever in the first century....? Its evolution is of no consequence if it was never part of original Christianity.

Christ instituted the new covenant on the night of his last Passover. The Lord's Supper replaced the Passover for Christians and was therefor a yearly observance, celebrated on the correct date each year as Passover was, and still is by devout Jews.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia admits that “the Mass of today differs greatly from the very simple ceremony followed by Christ and His Apostles.” And by observing the Mass frequently, even daily, Christendom has veered from what Jesus intended and has made it a common event.....and don't get me started on transubstantiation.....

The things that disturb me most are the mindless repetitions of what are apparently called prayers. I had a Catholic neighbor who played a recording of the Rosary in the car wherever she went.

When Jesus said the "Our Father" prayer, what did he say just before he gave it?
Matthew 6:6-10...
"6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees everything that is done in secret will reward you."
Does this sound like the kind of prayer heard in Catholic households?

7 “When you pray do not go on babbling endlessly as the pagans do, for they believe that they are more likely to be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not imitate them. Your Father knows what you need before you ask him."

So no repetitious prayers, babbling endlessly as if the number of times you say a phrase or the Lord's prayer is somehow acceptable to God.....?
If your own children approached you and said the same things over and over again, day in day out.....wouldn't you just want to slap them up the side of the head and tell them to just talk to you? Tell me who said that is was OK to endlessly repeat words? Where did God ever tell his worshippers to do that?

Notice the sentence before the Lord's Prayer....
9 “This is how you should pray:

Jesus did not say "pray this prayer" he said that this was "how you should pray"....then he stated the order of importance in what our prayers should include.....and the first thing mentioned, was the "hallowing" or sanctification of God's name......its hard to sanctify a name that is never used....

"‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.
10 Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven."

Its also hard to pray for God's Kingdom to "come" when you don't know exactly what it is......but when it does "come" (and the Bible tells us what that means)....God's will can then "be done on earth as it is in heaven". God's will has not being done "on earth" since Adam's sin...so this is something yet future......but what? No Catholic person that I have ever studied the Bible with had a clue about any of it.


Leaders first have to prove that what they teach is from the word of God. If they failed to do that, I would not follow their leadership. God would not expect me to follow their leadership.

Actually if you read the whole of Matthew 23 you will get a good idea about just what he said about the Pharisees and their leadership.....by saying that “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat. Therefore, be careful to do whatever they tell you, but do not follow their example, for they do not practice what they preach." (NCB)...Jesus is certainly highlighting that what they read from the scriptures was accurate, but in their own application of God's word, they failed to apply it to themselves.

Again, I see a strong prophetic pattern in the situation in Judaism and the situation in Christendom, (which I can never call "Christianity" for obvious reasons.) When Jesus gave commands, these were from his God and Father and there was no clause that said any of those commands were merely recommendations that only applied if you wanted them to....IOW, they were not optional.
It seems to me that everything Jesus said NOT to do, the Catholic church did it...and the things that they were commanded to do, they made excuses for NOT doing them.


When I speak of Christendom, I am including all who come under that description.
Unlike Judaism, Christianity had no earthly priesthood. They had no temple, no distinctive clothing (or else Judas would have been able to point Jesus out as the one with the distinctive robes.....)
The Christian priesthood was always spoken of as future, not present....and in heaven not on earth. (Revelation 20:6)
Paul said that the earthly things were shadows of heavenly things.....so as Paul says of his fellow "saints" (holy ones)...
Hebrews 3:1-2....
"1 Therefore, holy brethren, who share in a heavenly calling, concentrate your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and the high priest of our profession of faith. 2 He was faithful to the one who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in God’s household."
Did you ever hear of Jesus being called an "apostle"? And he is also a "High Priest", but not in any earthly Temple. If Jesus was God then he serves as his own High Priest.

Therefore there is no reason to emulate the Jewish system with its Temple and priesthood and distinctive clothing, liturgy and incense, which was abolished when Christ returned to heaven. At the end of Matthew 23 Jesus said....
"Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you murder the Prophets and stone the messengers sent to you! How often have I longed to gather your children together as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you would not allow it! 38 Behold, your house has been abandoned and left desolate. 39 I tell you, you will not see me again until you say: ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’ ”

Only a remnant of natural Israel were going to be saved as it was prophesied.
Romans 9:27-28...
"And Isaiah cries out in regard to Israel:

“Though the number of the Israelites
will be like the sand of the sea,
only a remnant of them will be saved.
28 For the sentence of the Lord on the earth
will be executed quickly and with finality.”

And no wonder only a remnant of natural Israel would be saved.....with a history like theirs, how could God excuse them?
I see a judgment for Christendom for all the same reasons....Protestantism is just the offspring of the 'mother church'. Her core doctrines are exactly the same.

You say you love a good bible discussion. Good for you. I wish more Christians did.

 

[Curtis]

Not exactly like the serpent in the wilderness. Jesus gives life everlasting. Satan can perform miracles, 2 Corinthians 11:14 for example, but the end is death. So let us lift Jesus up in praise and worship for conquering sin, death, and finally Satan the serpent, on Calvaries Cross, doing what no graven image can.
.

You know the serpent on the pole symbolizes Jesus on the cross, who was made to be sin for us, right?