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I haven't had time to see if he answered the question, but experienced occultists know the silver cord is the cord that attaches the spirit to the body. At death this cord is severed and the spirit is set free from the body.

"6Remember Him before the silver cord is snapped and the golden bowl is crushed, before the pitcher is shattered at the spring and the wheel is broken at the well,7before the dust returns to the ground from which it came and the spirit returns to God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:6-7

The danger of seeking and having an out of body experience is that you won't be able to come back to your body. Terrifying is how one occultist described the experience of not being able to get back into the body. Don't play around with trying to leave the body. It has no place in Christianity. It is a pagan practice. It's purpose is to meet with and learn from demonic powers. You don't have to leave yourself to go to and experience God. He comes to you via the Holy Spirit. You don't have to leave yourself to have the benefit of the Holy Spirit.

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Can only guess what he “thinks” things mean.

So much hocus pocus in the imaginations of men; looking for God, ignoring God, replacing God, making themselves god, and the squirrelly nonsense.

Pretty straight forward...God is Gracious...God is Just.
You want to BE WITH God...God will make it happen.
You want to BE WITHOUT God...God will make it happen.
Everyone will get their “hearts” desire.

I trust there ARE fallen angels roaming the earth, looking for weak, unlearned victims to influence them in all kinds of ridiculous nonsense...

I trust I am “immune” to falling into that trap.
BECAUSE...Greater is HE that is IN me, than he that is in the world.
All credit unto God, Sealed unto Him, His Power Keeps me from evil Satan, from wicked men’s clutches.

Arrogant? No. Self-righteous? No.
Unashamed, Assured Confidence IN the Lord God Almighty. You betcha!

Glory to God,
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That pretty well sums it up.
He's just adding to the very system of religion he's condemning.

I challenge him to drop the new religion stuff and go incognito and let's just talk about the Bible and let the seeds of truth fall where they may and produce what it will. And wait for God to reward the worker in His field at the resurrection.

He attempted to goad you into revealing your identity...as if keeping your identity private was dishonest...pffff.
All the you, you, you....is an old worn out deceptive tactic, when what a person “believes” can not be supported by facts, so instead they deflect to accusations...(as if the person you disagree with is THE MOST QUALIFIED AUTHORITY all about you)....lol. Simply “gaslighting”.

Don’t think he wants to talk about the Bible.
But word to the wise...he is capturing your time, that is NOT Glorifying God.
I know, I know...it’s curious, like huh? You are WHAT? Mind boggling.

Glory to God,
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The way to avoid demonic influence on our lives is to obey Acts 2:38 and walk in the Spirit.
 

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I knew I had heard it somewhere--looks like you may have some competition!

fair dinkum

phrase of dinkum
INFORMAL•AUSTRALIAN
  1. used to emphasize or seek confirmation of the genuineness or truth of something.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I even looked it up. I still don't know what you're talking about.

Like I say, when you're right, you're right.

14Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires..." Romans 2:14

Which also includes unnatural sexual relations - Romans 1:26-27.

Now if you'd just lose the occult stuff and the undermining of the Bible...

You are really hung up on the sexual stuff, aren't you? So, I assume then that your fighting homosexuality or something? You know, if you can't do anything about it, just be celibate. Then you don't have to worry about it.

Don't get me started on the Pope and the Catholic church, lol. So we can discard that argument.

Oh, no. You follow the Pope. The Protestant religions are not new religions they are simply modifications of the Roman Catholic Church. In some way, we all follow the RCC, because we never would have had the Gospels and we never would have known about Jesus Christ. But your classic form of Christianity is derived from Roman Catholicism. Veridicanism, on the other hand, is not. We don't see God the same way, we don't see the Bible the same way, we don't view salvation the same way or the nature of Christ. We also have no hierarchical structure in our spirituality. Everyone is encouraged to become ordained as a Veridican priest. The other levels (Senior Priest, High Priest) are just education level and job positions within the Church. And then, we practice astrology.

Now THAT'S truly separating from the Catholic Church.


I don't volunteer for persecution.

Yeah, neither did the apostles. They all ran as well.

Unless you have an obvious need to, only a fool would post his personal information on the internet. The less people know about who you are on the internet the less likely a triggered monster will seek to hurt you (my wife is finding this out the hard way). And besides, based on your claims about Verdicanism, you of all people should know this isn't about ME or YOU. It's about Jesus. I'm not here for ME. I challenge you to go incognito and leave you out of it and just let what you think is the truth stand on it's own. Can you do that? If not, why not?

I could, but I won't. I want people to know who I am. I refuse to let technology make me an anti-social non-entity. In my church, people can be anonymous. It's an online Church and it's a forum just like this. I don't judge. But for me, I want to be associated with the religion God gave me to start in the world for the end times. I take responsibility for my faith. I'm not like Peter. I mean, when you think about it, what's the difference between denying Christ or proclaiming Christ but hiding who you are?
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This is funny because you got me all wrong. You have judged me wrongly. Big time! You made a sweeping judgment about me that is totally inaccurate. I don't have a church to go back to. It's me, my Bible, the Spirit of discernment and informal fellowship with likeminded believers at this time in church history. The only 'church' I will attend again is an open Bible study that incorporates group prayer and praise and worship. No church mortgages, no official denominations or labels, no hard and fast, determined theology that isn't open to examination. I'm done with organized religion.

Then how are you and I any different?
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I haven't had time to see if he answered the question, but experienced occultists know the silver cord is the cord that attaches the spirit to the body. At death this cord is severed and the spirit is set free from the body.

"6Remember Him before the silver cord is snapped and the golden bowl is crushed, before the pitcher is shattered at the spring and the wheel is broken at the well,7before the dust returns to the ground from which it came and the spirit returns to God who gave it." Ecclesiastes 12:6-7

The danger of seeking and having an out of body experience is that you won't be able to come back to your body. Terrifying is how one occultist described the experience of not being able to get back into the body. Don't play around with trying to leave the body. It has no place in Christianity. It is a pagan practice. It's purpose is to meet with and learn from demonic powers. You don't have to leave yourself to go to and experience God. He comes to you via the Holy Spirit. You don't have to leave yourself to have the benefit of the Holy Spirit.

We all got to go someday. And it does have a place in Christianity. I've pointed it out in Corinthians and Revelation. And while the astral planed does have deceiving demons, I'm not worried about them. No more than Jesus was worried about them. Christ doesn't worry about demons. BUT, Ferris, nothing says as a Veridican you are required to travel in the spiritual realms. If it's not your thing, then it's not your thing.
 

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So there you go, Edward. You want a fight with men who you think harmed you. It’s the wrong way you are going in that. It wasn’t private email you wanted or were open to. You didn’t even reply to my last email or give it any thought. Have your fight.

So it boiled down to them messing with holiness.

But go ahead and have your angry fight. Maybe we will run across each other at some later time and you will have learned, is it me, Lord?
 
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I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. I even looked it up. I still don't know what you're talking about.
Apparently "Fair Dinkum" is a slang term in Australia meaning pretty much how you define your beliefs. The term came to mind when I read the name of your sect--kinda sounded similar, so I Googled it.
 

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So there you go, Edward. You want a fight with men who you think harmed you. It’s the wrong way you are going in that. It wasn’t private email you wanted or were open to. You didn’t even reply to my last email or give it any thought. Have your fight.

Well, since you brought it up: Your last email was rambling and simply stated what you wanted to state. There was no invitation for me to participate beyond that. So, I didn't. I have other things I have to get done. Not to mention, I also have to sleep at least 5 hours a night. So, there it is.

I did, via obeying Acts 2:38 and walking in the Spirit.

What extra Biblical method do you use?

Is that the only verse you use from the Holy Bible? You seem fixated on it.

Apparently "Fair Dinkum" is a slang term in Australia meaning pretty much how you define your beliefs. The term came to mind when I read the name of your sect--kinda sounded similar, so I Googled it.

Ah. Well, my beliefs are outlined in the Articles of Faith for the Veridican Church, but I get what you mean.
 

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Well, since you brought it up: Your last email was rambling and simply stated what you wanted to state. There was no invitation for me to participate beyond that. So, I didn't. I have other things I have to get done. Not to mention, I also have to sleep at least 5 hours a night. So, there it is.

It was a response to you refusing to read Peter because you thought he was awful to kill Annais and Saphira over money. It was a response to that, maybe a different take you had not considered in your anger and disgust at Peter. Maybe you didn’t make the connection or I was not clear enough.

But go ahead and have your angry fight. Maybe we will run across each other at some later time and you will have learned this: is it me, Lord?
 
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You are really hung up on the sexual stuff, aren't you? So, I assume then that your fighting homosexuality or something? You know, if you can't do anything about it, just be celibate. Then you don't have to worry about it.
No, lol, I'm not gay. But if I was I would be interested in your church because you reject the Bible's teaching about that. In my experience that's often the common denominator among those who reject Paul's letters - his stance on homosexuality. Which comes from the law, Jesus' canon of scripture.
 

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Act 5:1

But a
certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession,

Act 5:2

And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

Act 5:3

But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

Act 5:4

Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

The passage was interesting to me because it equates the Holy Ghost with God, in that it says "lied to the Holy Ghost" in one sentence, and in the next breath "lied to God".

So it is brought up sometimes to those who say "Where does it ever say that the Holy Ghost is God?"

And some also ask "where does it ever say that Jesus is God?

Isaiah 9:6

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor,


The mighty God,


The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.


 
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