The Gift Of The Sabbath - Is It For Us? - NEW AND IMPROVED??

[GerhardEbersoehn]

God taught me these truths many years ago.

Which <truths>?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

It transformed my Christian life from relating to him through accurate and approved church activities and theological constructs to relating to him through the Spirit expressed in the fruit of the Spirit.

Shucks

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The free gift of eternal life *of* coming to & believing in Jesus Christ means no strings attached.

I like this
[*of* GE]

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

No, the rest from sin God gives. The true sabbath rest.

Rest while twisting and wrangling the words of Scripture ... ain't fooling nobody chum.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

That is where the restrictions for contact with God were placed on the people of God.
Those restrictions are removed in Christ.

Jesus Christ removed any <restriction> that might have or may separate us from God. He hasn't changed; not in any way of Divinity or aptitude. The God His Own Law Unto Himself leant over and bowed low and "became flesh"--God His Own Law Unto Himself "with us" "in the flesh" and Person, "Jesus of Nazareth", THE RISEN JESUS: death removed, like the stone from his grave.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

When a person believes in Jesus they enter into His rest. That is the rest that remains for Jews living in the rest that Joshua gave the people of God from their wanderings in the desert. And just as there were those Israelites who resisted entering into Joshua's rest, so there are those Israelites resisting entering into Christ's rest. They need to learn from the failure of their ancestors who refused to enter into their rest.

Hebrews 4 deals with the ONLY 'Rest of God' - Christ, and if God ever wanted Israel to come to Him they had to come BY FAITH IN CHRIST WHICH FAITH IS THE GIFT OF GOD WHICH IS CHRIST always and ever "CHRIST THE SAME yesterday, today and tomorrow" -- "THIS JESUS GOD RAISED FROM THE DEAD" - "for the Israelites / Jews first"; for the Gentiles Incorporated "The Church of the Living God" strictly.

 

[Curtis]

Your bad learner potential cannot glare more conspicuously, <the apostles are the ministers of the new covenant>. O shut up please!

Do you even have a clue that covenant and Testament are the same thing?

The New Testament has the new covenant and the Old Testament has the old covenant.

Now read and learn: Compare different versions and learn that covenant and Testament are SYNONYMOUS:

2 Corinthians 3:6

(KJV) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

(ASV) who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

(ESV) who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

(ISV) who has also qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, which is not written but spiritual, because the written text brings death, but the Spirit gives life.

(YLT) who also made us sufficient to be ministrants of a new covenant, not of letter, but of spirit; for the letter doth kill, and the spirit doth make alive.

(GNB) it is he who made us capable of serving the new covenant, which consists not of a written law but of the Spirit. The written law brings death, but the Spirit gives life.

(NET) who made us adequate to be servants of a new covenant not based on the letter but on the Spirit, for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

(TPT) He alone makes us adequate ministers who are focused on an entirely new covenant. Our ministry is not based on the letter of the law but through the power of the Spirit. The letter of the law kills, but the Spirit pours out life.

Got it?

 

[Curtis]

Utter ignorance of The Ministry of Christ. You're a waste of time

Try actually reading 2 Corinthians 3.

 

[Curtis]

Ecclesiastes 12:13 KJV: Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Except THE commandments in the new covenant are the two love commands, not “the ministry of death an condemnation that kills” Decalogue..

 

[BarneyFife]

The law is not in itself blamed

So the law itself is not the "ministrarion of death?" Wonder what JFB has to say about 2 Corinthians 3:

7. the ministration of death—the legal dispensation, summed up in the Decalogue, which denounces death against man for transgression.

A good summary (the Decalogue) of the ministration of death really ought to state somewhere that it ministers death.

I guess you can't fault a commentary for having its limitations.. :)

 

[BarneyFife]

Except THE commandments in the new covenant are the two love commands,

You mean the two love commands plucked out of the old covenant scriptures?

not “the ministry of death an condemnation that kills” Decalogue..

See post #430

 

[BarneyFife]

Shucks

GE, that's not nice.

 

[BarneyFife]

Do you even have a clue that covenant and Testament are the same thing?

There are no Testament divisions in the Bible corresponding with other covenants (Noahic, Abrahamic, etc.).

The New Testament has the new covenant and the Old Testament has the old covenant.

The new covenant came from the Old Testament and was initially made with the old covenant people.

Jesus expected Nicodemus, an old covenant theologian, lto understand new covenant theology.

 

[Brakelite]

Jamieson, Fausett, & Brown Commentary says it well:
8. finding fault with them—the people of the old covenant, who were not made "faultless" by it (Heb 8:7); and whose disregard of God's covenant made Him to "regard them not" (Heb 8:9). The law is not in itself blamed, but the people who had not observed it.

Exactly. So there was nothing wrong, or faulty, with the covenant itself, but with the people God made the covenant with. They promised what they couldn't deliver.
Now today, getting your head around that idea is problematic with some. They think great, the old covenant was faulty, the new one's perfect, what can go wrong? Well, same as the old. The people with whom it was made. And it gets worse. Some think the new covenant was made with Jews, the "landed gentry" in the middle east. As it there's two different gospels, one for the Jews and one for everyone else. Others think the covenant is so safe, their salvation is set in stone. Isn't that ironic.

 

[Brakelite]

So the law itself is not the "ministrarion of death?" Wonder what JFB has to say about 2 Corinthians 3:

7. the ministration of death—the legal dispensation, summed up in the Decalogue, which denounces death against man for transgression.

A good summary (the Decalogue) of the ministration of death really ought to state somewhere that it ministers death.

I guess you can't fault a commentary for having its limitations.. :)

I think we ought to note perhaps that the law itself isn't death... It's the ministration of the law which is death.

 

[Brakelite]

the ten commands, given to Moses on the mountain, that brings death..

And that death was laid on Jesus. Now what? The police officer has let you off even though you were doing 125mph through the city. What you gonna to do? A burn out as you do an illegal U-turn leaving him enveloped in a cloud of smoke?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Do you even have a clue that covenant and Testament are the same thing?

I, MOST, CERTAINLY, DO NOT.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

The New Testament has the new covenant and the Old Testament has the old covenant.

Most obvious generic TRUTH.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

Now read and learn: Compare different versions and learn that covenant and Testament are SYNONYMOUS:

2 Corinthians 3:6

(KJV) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

(ASV) who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

(ESV) who has made us sufficient to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

(ISV) who has also qualified us to be ministers of a new covenant, which is not written but spiritual, because the written text brings death, but the Spirit gives life.

(YLT) who also made us sufficient to be ministrants of a new covenant, not of letter, but of spirit; for the letter doth kill, and the spirit doth make alive.

(GNB) it is he who made us capable of serving the new covenant, which consists not of a written law but of the Spirit. The written law brings death, but the Spirit gives life.

(NET) who made us adequate to be servants of a new covenant not based on the letter but on the Spirit, for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

(TPT) He alone makes us adequate ministers who are focused on an entirely new covenant. Our ministry is not based on the letter of the law but through the power of the Spirit. The letter of the law kills, but the Spirit pours out life.

Got it?

This your total curriculum and methodology which is to be faced here by amateurs in order to be convinced, has been unbelievably SUCCESFUL with them.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

GE, that's not nice.

The man's so learned!