Robert Gwin
Well-Known Member
You are parroting the Bible but without understanding. In what capacity was Jesus with the Father...was He a PR man? or...as it says in the bible that Jesus was the Creator and without Him nothing was created. But you will not be able to take your mind and heart that far from its pre-conceived track.
Jesus is greater than Moses as the builder is greater than the house. This is an understatement that many will miss. Everything concerning Jesus in the Bible is an understatement.
Jesus is the Lord God. Only the Father is greater than Him. Jesus is the God of Israel. The Father is the God of all flesh. But now Jesus has taken on the role of Lord of all creation...still under the Father of course.
People miss the greatness of Jesus because they are bound up in the text of the Bible without any revelation at all.
Jesus came from the Father...like a glass of water from a greater sea. Jesus is a life-giving Spirit shared with the Father as One Holy Spirit. Anything less than that misses the depth of who Jesus is.
Might be easier to understand looking at how Jesus explained it sir:
(John 17:20-22) 20 “I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, 21 so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one.
I think Jesus made it easy to understand there, one in the unity of the faith in other words.