Grailhunter
Well-Known Member
I'm somewhat taken with the claim Christian's were involved in the slave trade, perhaps you can cite early church fathers on the subject for better clarification?
Theological discussions on slaves....LOL
I dont find the Roman situation any different than the south in America
Do you mean Christ condoned the slavery in the south? Or would have condoned the slavery in the south?
I do not want to get into a complex discussion because I will lose you real quick.
Would it have been the correct thing for Christ and the Apostles to condemn slavery and place a moratorium on it?
Historians say no. There is an old saying, that Rome was built on the back of slaves. Putting a moratorium on slavery would have caused a domino effect and non-of it would have been good, not even for the slaves....learning that slavery was wrong was something that Christians would learn in the future....Holy Spirit.
And then putting this into perspective in America (since you keep wanting to bring it up) Abraham Lincoln did not do the slaves any favors....It was like the slaves were hanging on to ropes over a cliff and he cut ropes and they fell off the cliff. He goes down in history as the great guy that freed the slaves....put freed to what?
The north conquered the south and took prisoners and mistreated the prisoners and the people in the south. They would have done slaves more good if they would have took the slaves prisoners....clothed them in good clothes and put them in good housing and gave them a good education and put them in the military to learn trades. Pay them regular military wages, and then after ten years give them the choice of staying in the military or not. We would not see a lot of what is happening today if they would have done that.
And at the time there were proposals in congress and Thomas Jefferson was one of them...to do something along those lines but it did not happen. Of course Thomas Jefferson owned around 600 slaves and did think the negro was an inferiors race but saw the moral right thing for white men to do was treat them humanely. There is a lot of information on Thomas Jefferson's attitude towards slavery and some of it is in his notes on "The State of Virginia"
One thing to keep in mind is that at the time of the civil war....slavery occurred around the world. So it is just not the bad Americans. Depending how you look at it, it was the Americans that lead the world to stop slavery....not that it is completely eradicated today.
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