The 10 Commandments are FOREVER

[Cassandra]

Isaiah 22 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."

Looks like we'll have sabbath in the new earth!!!

 

[Oceanprayers]

I keep trying to point out that people should consider what the ten moral statements in Chapter 20 are for. Why did God start out with those moral statements. They are more or less summaries of some of the actual Mosaic Laws. And they have a significance that is important. They are just not the covenant commandments and they are not part of the Mosaic Laws.

If they were, people could not take ten laws and discard the other 603 Mosaic Laws because that would be a serious violation of the Mosaic Laws. And not all are really relevant to Christians. As it is the Apostles mentioned some of these. But not all of them. The command for observing the Jewish Sabbath is not mentioned. Paul was not going around commanding Gentile-Christians to observe the Jewish Sabbath....that was settled at the meeting between Paul and James in Jerusalem to get the Judaizers off of Paul's back.

Of course we do not observe the moratorium on engraved images.

And modern Christians do not consider women as part of their property....the do not covet rule.

Actually, in the early 19th century a woman as wife was made subordinate, "property", to/of her husband by the marriage contract.
Everything she brought to the marriage in her dowry was in the control of her husband.

The wife could not own property, inherit, earn a living and keep her earnings, nor could she enter into contracts.
All based on biblical principle. Which included prohibiting by law mixed race marriage.

The first marriage license was introduced by England's church in 1100 A.D. . It was exported to the territories in their control by 1600 A.D.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Now Read carefully….So then God tells Moses to write the Commandments of the covenant, down on the tablets and refers to them as the Ten Commandments…

27 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.” 28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

The Lord wrote on the tablets, not Moses...

"1Then the LORD said to Moses, “Chisel out two stone tablets like the originals, and I will write on them the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke." Exodus 34:1

"27The LORD also said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.”28So Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments." Exodus 34:27-28​

So, right from Exodus itself we see that the Lord wrote on the tablets, not Moses. That ruins your whole 'different' 10 Commandments doctrine.

 

[Enoch111]

Going to the Synagogue falls under the Ceremonial Law.

No it does not. Exactly what "ceremony" would be observed? Did Christ encourage vain "ceremonies"? And He [Christ] taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. (Luke 4:15)

 

[Grailhunter]

Actually, in the early 19th century a woman as wife was made subordinate, "property", to/of her husband by the marriage contract.
Everything she brought to the marriage in her dowry was in the control of her husband.

The wife could not own property, inherit, earn a living and keep her earnings, nor could she enter into contracts.
All based on biblical principle. Which included prohibiting by law mixed race marriage.

The first marriage license was introduced by England's church in 1100 A.D. . It was exported to the territories in their control by 1600 A.D.

No surprise....Christian polygamy and concubinage continued for...a couple centuries....Jewish polygamy for a 1000 years after Christ's ministry. Catholic priests had concubine "type" wives because the Catholic Church would not allow them to marry....both still continue to this day for various reasons...you see it on TV.

 

[Grailhunter]

"27The LORD also said to Moses, “Write down these words, for in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.”28So Moses was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights without eating bread or drinking water. He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant—the Ten Commandments." Exodus 34:27-28

LOL ya got to read the whole verse...LOL Are you watching football too?

 

[BarneyFife]

You're going to have to explain HOW.
How is keeping the Sabbath a moral imperative?
Going to the synagogue
Not working (physical)
Remembering God and praying

How are these not ceremonial?
Where does morality come into play?

How is absence of work ceremonial?
Working 7 days a week for long periods of time will shorten human life (Thou shalt not kill), but I prefer to view it like this:

God said to do it.

Somehow, that seems like enough for me.

 

[Oceanprayers]

How is absence of work ceremonial?
Working 7 days a week for long periods of time will shorten human life (Thou shalt not kill), but I prefer to view it like this:

God said to do it.

Somehow, that seems like enough for me.

Thou shalt not murder.

 

[BarneyFife]

1 John 1 and starting at verse 5 is written to unbelievers.

I don't see any indication of that within the text.

 

[BarneyFife]

Thou shalt not murder.

Suicide is self-murder.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yet this is who he was talking to

"Romans 2:17
Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,

People called Jews. Now if they were all saved and part of the church or not, who knows? The point is that to be real Jews they needed to be right in their heart. That means that if these Jews were really saved they would be 'circumcised' in heart. This verse does not say all gentiles on earth who also may be right in heart are therefore Jews.

Its speaking directly about the "Uncircumcision", simple, clear, easy to understand

The Horse Is Way Dead!

Romans 2:26-29KJV
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

 

[dad]

But that is what it says. We, being the ministers of God's good news. That the joy if those to whom they write may be full.

This verse makes that very obvious.
"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you..."

YOU being who? Not unbelievers as you said everything after verse 5 was about.

 

[dad]

Its speaking directly about the "Uncircumcision", simple, clear, easy to understand

The Horse Is Way Dead!

Romans 2:26-29KJV
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Can you make your point simply and clearly? What are you trying to say? We do know he was talking to Jews, right?
Romans 2:23
Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?

Who else would boast of keeping the law? Ok, so..?

 

[dad]

Isaiah 22 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."

Looks like we'll have sabbath in the new earth!!!

This is a surprise? We'll have Christmas too. Easter. Etc. Not sure what you think that means.

 

[Truth7t7]

Isaiah 22 "For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.

23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord."

Looks like we'll have sabbath in the new earth!!!

That's correct, the Sabbath is "Eternal"!

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

 

[Truth7t7]

This is a surprise? We'll have Christmas too. Easter. Etc. Not sure what you think that means.

It appears you mock the truth of Gods word before you eyes, "in bold ignorance"

That's correct, the Sabbath is "Eternal"!

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

 

[dad]

It appears you mock the truth of Gods word before you eyes, in bold ignorance

That's correct, the Sabbath is "Eternal"!

Yes there will be sabbaths. What is it you think that means? There will be lions, children,nations,crops,holidays and a lot of other things. What is it you think we will need to do on sabbath days? The people on earth will come to worship at Jerusalem. Of course the (saved) Jews in Jerusalem will have sabbath days. The church will be ruling with Jesus, but living in our eternal city, New Jerusalem. Did you think we celebrated the sabbath there as well?

Oh, and by the way, mentioning the day celebrating the birth of Jesus as well as the day celebrating His resurrection is not mockery in any way. Try to curb your religious false accusations.

 

[Truth7t7]

The church will be ruling with Jesus, but living in our eternal city, New Jerusalem. Did you think we celebrated the sabbath there as well?

Oh, and by the way, mentioning the day celebrating the birth of Jesus as well as the day celebrating His resurrection is not mockery in any way. Try to curb your religious false accusations.

That's correct, the Sabbath is "Eternal"!

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

 

[Truth7t7]

Oh, and by the way, mentioning the day celebrating the birth of Jesus as well as the day celebrating His resurrection is not mockery in any way. Try to curb your religious false accusations.

Jesus wasn't born on December 25th, it's of pagan origin in the winter solstice and Roman Saturnalia

Easter Sunday is also of pagan origin in their fertility rites, following the vernal equinox

No place in scripture does it teach to remember the Lords birth or resurrection

 

[dad]

That's correct, the Sabbath is "Eternal"!

Isaiah 66:22-23KJV
22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain.
23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

Not sure why you are parroting. Yes the people on earth will come to worship at Jerusalem, and of course the sabbath will be important. Not sure what you think you are seeing here?