Ernest T. Bass
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1) Yes, one cannot be saved or lost if he was never physically born, never existed.Hi Ernest, liked some of the understandings you've written about Faith and the application of said Faith. I was hoping we could find some common ground to see how far we could get talking through the salvation process.
I'm trying really hard to look at this journey one happening at a time, in the simplest terms i can.
First happening.
1) We must be born into this world.
2) As the result of being born into this world, we are under Grace in this respect. Christ bought the entire field to get the treasure out out it. As the result of being born into this world, we are part of this field. At this beginning stage, we "do not" have the Spirit of Christ sealed into us yet sowe are none of His at this beginning state of being. At this early stage, being under Grace simply means we are under the Judgment of Jesus Christ and we can do nothing to change that.
Do you agree? Or would you like to elaborate?
2) God's grace has appeared to all men Titus 2:11 but all men will not be saved for God has made conditional upon obedience Hebrews 5:9.
I do not believe in the man made idea of original sin, infants are not born lost sinners in need of salvation/grace. Infants are born without sin/innocent and as they mentally mature learning right from wrong (Isaiah 7:15-16) then they become accountable to God's law (Romans 7:8-9) then transgress God's law becoming lost sinners (1 John 3:4) then are in need of salvation (Acts 2:38) thru repentance and baptism for remission of sins.