The salvation journey.

[Titus]

Nope

Baptizo is not always water immersion, I already proved that to you.

Gal says we’re baptizo’d INTO CHRIST. Not water.

You can either continue in unbelief, or you can repent and place your faith in christ, not some pastor immersing you in water

If you look up multin and Milligan, they have many examples of baptizo used in Ancient Greek writings, including government documents, fictional writings and non fictional writings.
Titus' response:
In the BIBLE of the new testament baptizo is always water. You are the one denying those who studied Greek word meaning from the NEW TESTAMENT. That is what we are dealing with. You sight outside sources because you are clearly wrong.


Galatians 3:27 most certainly says we were baptized into Christ.
Meaning which baptism did we get into Christ through? Water or Holy Spirit.
Baptizo always, according to the best Greek scholars in the world teach it is always water baptism.
You really think you can disagree with men like Thayer? You then have private interpretation of the scriptures.
I challenge you to write to living Greek scholars and ask them what baptism is Galatians 3:26-27.

 

[Titus]

Faith is not a work. And if it is, it is the exception to the rule. Faith is what counts.

Jesus taught faith was a work of God, John 6:28-29. Why do you disagree with Jesus?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Nope

Baptizo is not always water immersion, I already proved that to you.

Gal says we’re baptizo’d INTO CHRIST. Not water.

You can either continue in unbelief, or you can repent and place your faith in christ, not some pastor immersing you in water

If you look up multin and Milligan, they have many examples of baptizo used in Ancient Greek writings, including government documents, fictional writings and non fictional writings.
Titus' response:
In the BIBLE of the new testament baptizo is always water. You are the one denying those who studied Greek word meaning from the NEW TESTAMENT. That is what we are dealing with. You sight outside sources because you are clearly wrong.

You are clearly wrong

Col 2 is a spiritual baptism done by the HS

John the Baptist said Jesus will Baptized with the HS and fire

Paul said the children of Israel were baptized into Moses.

Paul; also said we are baptised into Christ, His death, His burial, His Body/

Jesu asked if one could be baptized with the cup he was baptized with

Non of them involve water.

Galatians 3:27 most certainly says we were baptized into Christ.
Meaning which baptism did we get into Christ through? Water or Holy Spirit.
Baptizo always, according to the best Greek scholars in the world teach it is always water baptism.
You really think you can disagree with men like Thayer? You then have private interpretation of the scriptures.
I challenge you to write to living Greek scholars and ask them what baptism is Galatians 3:26-27.

Step back and think for a minute

It says we were BAPTiZED INTO CHRIST.

Who can do this? God himself (the HS) or the your priest,. By baptizing you IN WATER.

Hey, If you want your water baptism to represent your being baptised into christ, thats great,

But if your not literally baptised into Christ. Your still dead in your sin.

 

[friend of]

Jesus taught faith was a work of God, John 6:28-29. Why do you disagree with Jesus?

It's a work that we have to do. It doesn't count as a self-righteous work. We don't earn salvation thru works.

 

[Titus]

You do not know what the Lords church teaches friend.
The word of God does not teach a priest must be the baptizer.
Anyone one even the lost can baptize one into Christ.

Stop, making this error. I do not believe a Holy "priest" must be the baptizer. I'm not catholic!

Now you think about this.
Who did Jesus command to do the baptizing?
His commission was for men to baptize men, Mattherw 28:19.
That is HIS GOSPEL. What baptism did Paul say is the one baptism in Jesus' gospel? Ephesians 4:5 baptizo!
What baptism puts us in Christ?
The same baptism that is For the forgiveness of sins, Acts 2:38.
Mark 16:15-16; John 3:5; 1Peter 3:20-21.

Galatians 3:26-27 is water immersion. Paul said we are water baptized Into Christ.
That is the one baptism Paul taught, Ephesians 4:5.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You do not know what the Lords church teaches friend.

I am not the one saying a mere sinner baptizes me into Christ you are

The word of God does not teach a priest must be the baptizer.
Anyone one even the lost can baptize one into Christ.

This just shows you have not listened to a word I have said. And how your blinded to your not see what you want to see

I numerous times said a pastor a priest if your disciple anyone.

Stop, making this error. I do not believe a Holy "priest" must be the baptizer. I'm not catholic!

Now you think about this.
Who did Jesus command to do the baptizing?
His commission was for men to baptize men, Mattherw 28:19.
That is HIS GOSPEL. What baptism did Paul say is the one baptism in Jesus' gospel? Ephesians 4:5 baptizo!
What baptism puts us in Christ?
The same baptism that is For the forgiveness of sins, Acts 2:38.
Mark 16:15-16; John 3:5; 1Peter 3:20-21.

Galatians 3:26-27 is water immersion. Paul said we are water baptized Into Christ.
That is the one baptism Paul taught, Ephesians 4:5.

Gal 3 is not water baptism It is Christ baptism

it says we are baptized into Christ not water. If you insist it is water once again you have two baptisms in one verse

it would read like this

baptized in water in Christ

two Baptisms not one

 

[Titus]

I am not the one saying a mere sinner baptizes me into Christ you are

This just shows you have not listened to a word I have said. And how your blinded to your not see what you want to see

I numerous times said a pastor a priest if your disciple anyone.



Gal 3 is not water baptism It is Christ baptism

it says we are baptized into Christ not water. If you insist it is water once again you have two baptisms in one verse

it would read like this

baptized in water in Christ

two Baptisms not one

Galatians 3:26-27
For as many ov you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
The word baptized here is baptizo. It is water immersion in the Greek language.
You can say it is not a million times. It is what it says it is.

You missed the point of why I brought up the great commission of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the SON and of the Holy Spirit.

Now, the great commission is Jesus commanding that His disciples go into all the world and preach His gospel.
What baptism is Jesus commanding in His gospel for His disciples to do?

Man baptizes man with water.
Water immersion is the only baptism that is commanded.
Holy Spirit baptism is done directly by God.
Holy Spirit baptism is not commanded by God.

It is clearly water immersion that baptizes us into Christ, Galatians 3:26-27.
You are disagreeing with the greatest Greek biblical scholars we have.
That is your position.
That is why your position is weak.

 

[Titus]

I am not the one saying a mere sinner baptizes me into Christ you are

This just shows you have not listened to a word I have said. And how your blinded to your not see what you want to see

I numerous times said a pastor a priest if your disciple anyone.



Gal 3 is not water baptism It is Christ baptism

it says we are baptized into Christ not water. If you insist it is water once again you have two baptisms in one verse

it would read like this

baptized in water in Christ

two Baptisms not one

The baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is water immersion.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said to them, repent and let everyone of you be baptized(baptizo) IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the forgiveness of sins: and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Christ's baptism is water immersion.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Galatians 3:26-27
For as many ov you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
The word baptized here is baptizo. It is water immersion in the Greek language.
You can say it is not a million times. It is what it says it is.

Except this is false. And I am to the point you will only believe what you want. So this discussion is getting fruitless.

You missed the point of why I brought up the great commission of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father and of the SON and of the Holy Spirit.

Now, the great commission is Jesus commanding that His disciples go into all the world and preach His gospel.
What baptism is Jesus commanding in His gospel for His disciples to do?

Man baptizes man with water.
Water immersion is the only baptism that is commanded.
Holy Spirit baptism is done directly by God.
Holy Spirit baptism is not commanded by God.

It is clearly water immersion that baptizes us into Christ, Galatians 3:26-27.
You are disagreeing with the greatest Greek biblical scholars we have.
That is your position.
That is why your position is weak.

Jesus told us to be baptised in water
He told us to baptize other in water

We are told HE will baptize with the HS.

The he baptizes us into christ, his body, and him.

You can’t seperate water and the spirit.

Your teaching is literally no different than a jew demanding physical circumcision is required. Both represent cleansing. Both are done by the hand of men. And both added ot the gospel makes the gospel a false gospel.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The baptism in the name of Jesus Christ is water immersion.
Acts 2:38
Then Peter said to them, repent and let everyone of you be baptized(baptizo) IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the forgiveness of sins: and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Christ's baptism is water immersion.

I was baptized INTO CHRIST

I was also Baptized in water (a year later)