Ferris Bueller
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Physical abandonment is Biblical grounds for divorce.So if the husband actually leaves his wife, over and over ....into the hands of abusers ....would you see this as a man leaving his wife?
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Physical abandonment is Biblical grounds for divorce.So if the husband actually leaves his wife, over and over ....into the hands of abusers ....would you see this as a man leaving his wife?
And I already stated that I would not marry just for attempting to calm my desires.And this is the big issue that the OP has to think about. Marriage is hardly a guarantee of sex. You have to marry knowing it may be one of those wants and desires you have to forgo, which defeats the reason for getting married, if that was the reason why you got married.
SCORE! You and I agree!And this is the big issue that the OP has to think about. Marriage is hardly a guarantee of sex. You have to marry knowing it may be one of those wants and desires you have to forgo, which defeats the reason for getting married, if that was the reason why you got married.
But you started your OP by saying that because of your hormones, you've been tempted to get into a relationship.And I already stated that I would not marry just for attempting to calm my desires.
Sexless marriages are not a rare thing either (most of which are not actually sexless, BUT marital sexless).
Yes, but I will not to let them get me into something worse.But you started your OP by saying that because of your hormones, you've been tempted to get into a relationship.
Apart from the matter of masturbation, I agree with this.I understand loneliness.
I understand sexual desire.
However, if you are not willing to take on the humility, the honesty, the forgiveness, the self-abnegation, the submission, the servant-mindset required of a man to make a marriage work, you're better off pleasuring yourself. Seriously. You'll save years of heartbreak and a ton of legal fees.
Masturbation is essentially fornication with oneself, which then can also fall under the sin of pride.Apart from the matter of masturbation, I agree with this.
Masturbation is one of those topics that you can't offer an opinion about one way or the other without that opinion, whatever it is, influencing someone by that opinion. It must be left entirely up to the person to discern between them and God. See, just by saying, "oh, I believe this about it, but you have to make your own mind up about it" invariably makes you a part of their decision process. It just does.
But anyway, marriage is essentially death of self. That includes the matter of your sexual desire. You have to understand this ahead of time or you're headed for disaster.
I will say you seem wise beyond your years.Yes, but I will not to let them get me into something worse.
Having them and being led by them are two different things.
Ah, and I forgot, very good job for you and your wife!I will say you seem wise beyond your years.
I got married when I was 19 years old, my wife 18. I knew NOTHING about human relationships and marriage. NOTHING. But God used my natural desire to teach me.
The problem is that most (including myself) can't gain full control of their desires.
"Masturbation is making love with the person you love most."Masturbation is essentially fornication with oneself, which then can also fall under the sin of pride.
Then women wouldn't even exist.
Yes. I was just thinking of getting married as a way to become a better person and learn new things that I may miss otherwise.Then in your (our) case, marriage is better than to burn with desire. But trouble definitely comes with the package. I’ve endured much trouble in marriage. But:
“we glory in tribulations…: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;” (Romans 5:3)
Thank you. What are your thoughts on my post prior to that?Physical abandonment is Biblical grounds for divorce.
Marriage is not defined by emotions or spirituality. And so you can not dissolve a marriage on those grounds. If you could then everyone can divorce their spouses.Emotionally? How about spiritually? How about that the spouse lied about his idea of what a marriage is supposed to be, even though they discussed it?
If the marriage isn't a "marriage" in the first place, then you're not 'leaving' a 'marriage'...
I can't argue with this. The demands of marriage have made me a better person. No question about it. But without forgiveness it doesn't do anything for the marriage.Yes. I was just thinking of getting married as a way to become a better person and learn new things that I may miss otherwise.
Because singledom seems to make me really lazy.
Yes, that exactly. Pride."Masturbation is making love with the person you love most."
(Anonymous graffito from the wall of some unremembered public loo.)
Marriage is just a personal growth opportunity?Yes. I was just thinking of getting married as a way to become a better person and learn new things that I may miss otherwise.
Because singledom seems to make me really lazy.
Oh? Then how is it defined? BIBLICALLY, if you can...Marriage is not defined by emotions or spirituality. And so you can not dissolve a marriage on those grounds. If you could then everyone can divorce their spouses.
No, just one of the many parts of it.Marriage is just a personal growth opportunity?