Questioning the Apostles

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I suppose it's okay to question anything, though in the end, I think we have to accept anything God or Jesus said in the Bible. Is it okay to question the apostles?
 

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I suppose it's okay to question anything, though in the end, I think we have to accept anything God or Jesus said in the Bible. Is it okay to question the apostles?
i would say yes, since it seems that they were often mistaken about things? Might depend upon whether something they wrote has a witness elsewhere in the Bible or not
 
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I suppose it's okay to question anything, though in the end, I think we have to accept anything God or Jesus said in the Bible. Is it okay to question the apostles?

You can try, but they received their teaching directly from Jesus, and simply transmitted that information straight to the historic Church. So that would be like questioning Jesus himself.

Sometimes we question how people perceive what they taught, and that should be questioned. Attacking the messenger is not a wise idea, however.

None of this should be perceived as my saying the apostles were sinless--they weren't. All evidence from the Bible is that they weren't. The Apostles in their youth, when with Jesus, indicated they made a lot of mistakes. And even after Jesus' earthly ministry was over, they went on making mistakes. Peter made his infamous blunder in separating from Gentile Christians. And Paul made his infamous blunder attacking, unwittingly, a high priest among the Jewish People in a derogatory way.

None of this has a thing to do with their teaching being in the least contaminated by their own failings. Again, they simply passed on information from Jesus reliably obtained and adequately understood to transmit the fundamental teachings.
 

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Again, they simply passed on information from Jesus reliably obtained and adequately understood to transmit the fundamental teachings.

I am speaking as to sensible people; the bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?


So soon, we celebrate again, the day God wed His people!

All are welcome, to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!

Peace be with you!
 
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I would not question the master. The apostles are our masters in religion. We are of little understanding compared to them. So why would you question them? There are translation errors in the bibles sometimes. Like the famous phrase "God repented of the evil he thought to do". God of course does not do evil and wouldn't. Evil is translated as calamity or something like that.

And although you're not supposed to call someone master. It is for understanding that I used that term.
 

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"For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received the word of God which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which also effectively works in you who believe." - 1 Thess. 2:13

As Paul said in that passage, everything that came from the apostles' mouths or letters were equivalent to God Himself saying or writing it. I will go even further by saying that it is just as foolish to question what the prophets wrote, as too many "Christians" like to do.
 
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As Paul said in that passage, everything that came from the apostles' mouths or letters were equivalent to God Himself saying or writing it. I will go even further by saying that it is just as foolish to question what the prophets wrote, as too many "Christians" like to do.
Scripture is scripture.

When we go about dividing this author from this author, we get dangerously close to dismissing the Divine Authorship of God's Word. We are better served seeking agreement in all authors to discover more fully what God's underlying Truth really is in each instance. Seeking where, and how, they all coincide. That is where sound doctrine lies.
 

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I suppose it's okay to question anything, though in the end, I think we have to accept anything God or Jesus said in the Bible. Is it okay to question the apostles?
The Word Of God is not to be questioned, as that would be following the spirit
of error, who has Already questioned: "Yea, hath God Said?" (Gen_3:1).

Ask ourSELVES: Why Exacerbate the already Devastating results of "his question"?
i would say yes, since it seems that they were often mistaken about things?
No, rather question the mistaken translators that continue to perpetually Change
God's Preserved And Holy Word, in order to "gain More filthy lucre (money)."

And ask ourSELVES: Why should we Also participate in that sin, paying them? Amen?
You can try, but they received their teaching directly from Jesus, and simply transmitted that information straight to the historic Church. So that would be like questioning Jesus himself.
Amen! Study, find out Exactly what "we are to do," and obey, Correct? Asking
ourSELVES: Why would we even think of questioning our Precious Saviour?
I would not question the master. The apostles are our masters in religion. We are
of little understanding compared to them. So why would you question them?
Amen! Never question What The "Head Of The Body" Inspired them to
Write For us, But, obey God's Command To "study (Rules) All of It, Rightly
Divided"
(2 Timothy 2:15; 2 Timothy 3:16-17), finding Exactly Which Contents
"are Directly TO us (members Of His Body)," Correct? (see below...)
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@Desire Of All Nations quoted Excellent (Sound Doctrine) Scripture!:

"For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received
The Word Of God Which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word
of men, but as It Is In Truth, The Word Of God
, which also effectively works in
you who believe." - 1 Thess. 2:13

Amen!:
As Paul said in that passage, everything that came from the apostles' mouths or letters were equivalent to God Himself Saying or Writing it. I will go even further by saying that it is just as foolish to question what the prophets wrote, as too many "Christians" like to do.
And, Double Amen!! God's Way Is Much Better than our questioning Him, so,
let's question ourSELVES, instead, to solve all of our OWN Confusion, that He
is Not
the author Of (1 Corinthians 14:33), and having Peace instead! ie:

Who, Exactly are we to follow?

a) Christ, Speaking on the earth, and the Twelve (law/prophecy) apostles, or,

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:

B) Christ, Speaking from Heaven, and the ONE GRACE/Mystery apostle,

or:

Combination
of both a) + B) = 13 apostles = Confusion, In Light
Of God's UNquestionable Word, about our (ONE GRACE) apostle:

1Co_4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.
1Co_11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am Of CHRIST.
Eph_5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children
Question ourSELVES: Where, Exactly, In God's Preserved Word,
"are we to follow Peter, James, John, Or Any of the Twelve (law)
apostles"? Questioning ourSELVES = Scripture, please?

GRACE And Peace to All Precious friends!

More "Right Division" studies:

God's Approval/Two Gospels In Prophecy vs MYSTERY!
+
"Distinctions" Of prophecy vs MYSTERY!
 
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We are better served seeking agreement in all authors to discover more fully what God's underlying Truth really is in each instance.
2000 years of trained theologians have Certainly Come Really CLOSE to
TOTALLY agreeing with EACH other, to accomplish this ideal idea, Correct?
 

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2000 years of trained theologians have Certainly Come Really CLOSE to
TOTALLY agreeing with EACH other, to accomplish this ideal idea, Correct?
I was referring to finding coinciding concepts within scripture, between the different books within the Bible.

And "trained" theologians are the most ignorant of the Truth, in my humble opinion. So the fact that they don't agree means absolutely nothing. They are the blind, trained by the blind, leading the blind.
 

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No, rather question the mistaken translators that continue to perpetually Change
God's Preserved And Holy Word, in order to "gain More filthy lucre (money)."

And ask ourSELVES: Why should we Also participate in that sin, paying them? Amen?
meh, it appears that apostles thought the kingdom was going to come by observation as they were entering Jerusalem, even in the original :)

plus the Bible is pretty obv not Word anyway, not that i wanna get into that!
"For this reason we also thank God without ceasing, because when you received
The Word Of God Which you heard from us, you welcomed it not as the word
of men, but as It Is In Truth, The Word Of God
, which also effectively works in
you who believe." - 1 Thess. 2:13

Amen!
so, there ya go, right there! Or i mean were they reading from a “Bible” iyo