"If you love me, you will keep my commandments."

[Bob Estey]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” John 14:15 RSV

I think some people would object to this statement made by Jesus. Was Jesus ever wrong about anything?

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” John 14:15 RSV

I think some people would object to this statement made by Jesus. Was Jesus ever wrong about anything?

nope, He wasnt. But have you tried to not break any of the commandments???

 

[BloodBought 1953]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” John 14:15 RSV

I think some people would object to this statement made by Jesus. Was Jesus ever wrong about anything?

Jesus left us with only Two. #1 Believe #2 Love

 

[Ferris Bueller]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” John 14:15 RSV

I think some people would object to this statement made by Jesus. Was Jesus ever wrong about anything?

"Some"? I think many, many people object to that statement made by Jesus.

" 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’" Matthew 7:22-23​

 

[Randy Kluth]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” John 14:15 RSV

I think some people would object to this statement made by Jesus. Was Jesus ever wrong about anything?

Can God ever be wrong about anything? Jesus was divine. He was God's Son, God's word. Nothing he ever says is sin, because by definition Sin is opposing God's Word.

 

[Bob Estey]

nope, He wasnt. But have you tried to not break any of the commandments???

I always try not to break any of his commandments. When I fail, I repent.

 

[Bob Estey]

Jesus left us with only Two. #1 Believe #2 Love

He left us with two great commandments, from which the others stem: Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:34-40). You and I have discussed this several times.

 

[Bob Estey]

"Some"? I think many, many people object to that statement made by Jesus.

" 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’" Matthew 7:22-23​

It is an important topic to me, because when Jesus had me repent of sins I was committing, my life was transformed. But you are right: When I bring it up, there always seems to be resistance.

 

[Bob Estey]

Jesus left us with only Two. #1 Believe #2 Love

He left us with two great commandments, from which the others stem: Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:34-40). You and I have discussed this several times.

In the end we always agree that, yes, we are saved, and, yes, the Lord will discipline us if we sin.

 

[Jim B]

He left us with two great commandments, from which the others stem: Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:34-40). You and I have discussed this several times.

This was not said to "us". It was said to the Jews at the time. Of course, the Holy Spirit within us guides us to love God and love our neighbors, but those are not commandments. Christians are dead to the law but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

 

[Bob Estey]

This was not said to "us". It was said to the Jews at the time. Of course, the Holy Spirit within us guides us to love God and love our neighbors, but those are not commandments. Christians are dead to the law but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

Jesus said there are two great commandments. He didn't qualify his statement by saying these commandments only applied to the Jews.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

This was not said to "us". It was said to the Jews at the time. Of course, the Holy Spirit within us guides us to love God and love our neighbors, but those are not commandments. Christians are dead to the law but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

You don't believe them to be commandments to us?
You don't think it's absolutely necessary for us to love God, that much?
You honestly think we can have a loving personal relationship with God or his Son Jesus without that kind of love? You don't think that kind of love for them is necessary for such a relationship?
The scriptures tell us we are to follow the footsteps of Jesus closely, wouldn't that especially be true about walking in his foot steps concerning that kind of love? Jesus was a Jew. So I believe loving your neighbors as yourself is a commandment to us.
Why would someone dismiss this kind of love for God which tells us and i do mean us, that we(us): must love God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind, and that this is the greatest and first commandment. And that we must love our neighbor as ourselfs. Are you honestly trying to say that its not necessary that we love God and our neighbor that much?

 

[Brakelite]

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” John 14:15 RSV

I think some people would object to this statement made by Jesus. Was Jesus ever wrong about anything?

The more common objection runs along the lines of
A. Not for us or
B. Those ones yes, that one no.
...but never "I delight to do thy will oh God", or "your law have I hid in my heart", or "how love I thy law".

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

He left us with two great commandments, from which the others stem: Love God with all your heart, mind, and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself (Matthew 22:34-40). You and I have discussed this several times.

Yes the two are above all, they are Grace ! Jesus said about that not on jot of the OT Law he changed, So no Jew could accuse Jesus of changing anything in that regard, but that Grace covers all and gives light to all the OT Law, under Grace and this is how they are totally changed ! but still the same foundation of God !

When people claim that the OT commandments are finished ? well yes they are in that sense of old, but now are a new under Grace ! Big difference huge difference but non the less, not one jot is wrong ! and all comes to light under Grace changed ? so they are now lit up due to Grace.

The Law was a teacher for the People of God and when as Moses said, would come, that's when when the Egg she is hatched and come to light !

Anyone who claims that the OT Law is of what it was, now under the OT is a cancer. as it is noting to do with what such was under the OT. such was dead works. but needed Jesus the Christ to bring them to life.

If anyone discards any commandment, one is cursed, because they are under delusions.

All The Commandments are from God ! and anyone who looks down on any is a total fool.

I have a religious mate who he and his Mob only claim the two and the rest were to be tossed out, but that is a carnal position, one who does not understand Grace at all. that's why he is looking for Jesus. because he is not found !

 

[Jim B]

You don't believe them to be commandments to us?
You don't think it's absolutely necessary for us to love God, that much?
You honestly think we can have a loving personal relationship with God or his Son Jesus without that kind of love? You don't think that kind of love for them is necessary for such a relationship?
The scriptures tell us we are to follow the footsteps of Jesus closely, wouldn't that especially be true about walking in his foot steps concerning that kind of love? Jesus was a Jew. So I believe loving your neighbors as yourself is a commandment to us.
Why would someone dismiss this kind of love for God which tells us and i do mean us, that we(us): must love God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind, and that this is the greatest and first commandment. And that we must love our neighbor as ourselfs. Are you honestly trying to say that its not necessary that we love God and our neighbor that much?

You're going on and on and on...

If you want to put yourself under the Law when Jesus died to free you from it, you are mistaken about His salvation.

I am guided by the Holy Spirit, given to Christians to guide us, not the OT law.

 

[Jim B]

The more common objection runs along the lines of
A. Not for us or
B. Those ones yes, that one no.
...but never "I delight to do thy will oh God", or "your law have I hid in my heart", or "how love I thy law".

Jeremiah was an Old Testament prophet. Christians are living under the New Covenant, bought by Jesus blood, freeing us from the law.

Galatians 5:18, "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law." That's as plainly stated as it can be.

 

[Brakelite]

Jeremiah was an Old Testament prophet. Christians are living under the New Covenant, bought by Jesus blood, freeing us from the law.

Galatians 5:18, "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law." That's as plainly stated as it can be.

The reason you are not under the law is that when you are led by the Spirit, you are living in harmony with the law. You are obeying the law. Those not led by the Spirit, they are carnal minded and are at enmity with God, they are not subject to the law, therefore are under the law, under it's condemnation, and they cannot be subject to the law because they are walking according to the flesh. Romans 8:3-9.

 

[Brakelite]

You're going on and on and on...

If you want to put yourself under the Law when Jesus died to free you from it, you are mistaken about His salvation.

I am guided by the Holy Spirit, given to Christians to guide us, not the OT law.

If you are truly guided by the holy Spirit, then the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in you. Jesus did not die to free you from obeying the law, He died so you could obey it. It is up to you whether you want to or not. If you don't... If you discard the law... Of you persist in claiming that you are no longer obliged to obey God's Commandments, then the spirit that is leading you is not of God. It belongs to another.

 

[Jim B]

If you are truly guided by the holy Spirit, then the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in you. Jesus did not die to free you from obeying the law, He died so you could obey it. It is up to you whether you want to or not. If you don't... If you discard the law... Of you persist in claiming that you are no longer obliged to obey God's Commandments, then the spirit that is leading you is not of God. It belongs to another.

Thank you for your opinion, even though it is not Scriptural. However, to repeat, here is what Paul wrote to the Christians in Galatia: "But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law." Galatians 5:18. Therefore I am no longer obliged to obey God's Commandments. Romans 6:14 says the same thing in different words: "For sin will have no mastery over you, because you are not under law but under grace."

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You're going on and on and on...

If you want to put yourself under the Law when Jesus died to free you from it, you are mistaken about His salvation.

I am guided by the Holy Spirit, given to Christians to guide us, not the OT law.

No you're mistaken about the love for God a Christian is suppose to exercise toward him, and the love for your neighbor a Christian is suppose to exercise. Someone who is speaking out against that kind of love that's mandatory to exercise toward God and his neighbor, can believe they're guided by God spirit all they want but God spirit guides a Christian to exercise that kind of love not speak out against exercising that kind of love.