Researched more on the Trinity, found that it has ancient pagan origins (Babylonian, greecian and Roman0, so will look to nontrinitarian
religions. Constantine incorporated the Trinity without looking at the scriptures in the 4th century.
The English word Trinity is derived from the Latin word Trinitas,
meaning "the number three, a triad".
Tertullian, a Latin theologian who wrote in the early 3rd
century, is credited with using the words "Trinity". The
word 'Trinity' does not appear in either the old or new
testament.
Scriptures that disprove the trinity:
When Satan tried to get Jesus to worship
him, Jesus replied;
''Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written:
'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.''
If Jesus was God, this statement wouldn't make sense.
Jesus states in John that he hasn't returned to his Father;
John 20:17:
''Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father.
Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
Regarding the end times (armageddon), only God the Father
knows, not even Jesus;
Mark 13:32:
''No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven,
nor the Son, but only the Father.''
So Jesus, if he was God, would know the end time, but
he doesn't. So God did not send himself in Jesus' body.
They are separate beings.
Stephen saw Jesus next to God, they were separate,
not one;
Acts 7:55:
''But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw
the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God.''
So Stephen saw two separate beings in his vision,
and not a third holy spirit person.
Jesus aknowledged that he was 'sent' to do
anothers will, not his own;
John 6:38:
''For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,
but the will of him that sent me.''
Here are a few sayings of Jesus about God,
whilst he was being crucified,
proving that they are different;
Luke 23:34:
''Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”
If Jesus was God, he would have said ''I will forgive you''.
Luke 23:46:
''Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit."
When he had said this, he breathed his last.''
Jesus acknowledged that his Father is greater than
him;
John 14:28:
''You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.'
If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.''
Mark 10:18
"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone.''
Jesus' teachings are not his own;
John 7:15:
''The Jews were amazed and asked, "How did this man get such learning without having studied?"
Jesus answered, "My teaching is not my own. It comes from him who sent me.''
John 12:49
''For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me
what to say and how to say it.''
John 8:28:
''So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that
I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the
Father has taught me.
The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."
So Jesus did not send himself, his Father sent him.
Jesus said to pray to 'our Father', not
'me'
Matthew 6:9:
''This, then, is how you should pray:
''Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name.''
In the scriptures, God is referred to as one person, not three;
Isaiah 42:8:
''I am Jehovah, that is my name; and my glory will I not give to another.''
Deuteronomy 6:4:
''Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one''
Genesis 1:1:
''In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ''
Isaiah 44:6:
''Thus saith Jehovah, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer, Jehovah of hosts:
I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God.''
God says that he is eternal, the beginning and the end,
Jesus never claimed this;
Revelation 22:13:
''I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.''
When Jesus fed the 5000 crowd in Bethsaida, he gave thanks
for the food before serving. If Jesus was God, he wouldn't thank himself;
Matthew 14:19:
''And he directed the people to sit down on the grass. Taking the five loaves and the two fish
and looking up to heaven, he gave thanks and broke the loaves. Then he gave them to the disciples,
and the disciples gave them to the people.
Before raising Lazarus from the dead, Jesus thanked
his Father for hearing him;
John 11:41:
''So they took away the stone. Then Jesus looked up and said, "Father, I thank you
that you have heard me.
I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here,
that they may believe that you sent me'
When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, "Lazarus, come out!"
When Thomas was confused about where Jesus was
going, Jesus stated what he meant;
John 14:5:
''Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me.''
If Jesus was God, why did he mention about going to the Father?
He would have said getting to him only.
When Jesus was baptized, Jehovah God himself spoke
about his love for his son. If the trinity was true, how could
God be in Jesus, but speak from Heaven at the same time?
Clearly, God is separate from Jesus.
Matthew 3:16:
''As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened,
and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him.
And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
Constantine of the Roman empire wanted to unite people with pagan doctrines,
the Trinity being one of them;
Here is more scriptures disproving the trinity;
John 17:3:
''Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.''
God spoke to Jesus, if Jesus was God this wouldn't make any sense;
Psalm 110:1:
''Jehovah saith unto my Lord (Jesus), Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.''
Thus, the Trinity is considered to be "one God in three Persons." Each is said to be without beginning, having existed for eternity. Each is said to be almighty, with each neither greater nor lesser than the others.
Is such reasoning hard to follow? Many sincere believers have found it to be confusing, contrary to normal reason, unlike anything in their experience. How, they ask, could the Father be God, Jesus be God, and the holy spirit be God, yet there be not three Gods but only one God?
HOW could such a confusing doctrine originate?
The Catholic Encyclopedia claims: "A dogma so mysterious presupposes a Divine revelation." Catholic scholars Karl Rahner and Herbert Vorgrimler state in their
Theological Dictionary: "The Trinity is a mystery . . . in the strict sense . . . , which could not be known without revelation, and even after revelation cannot become wholly intelligible."
However, contending that since the Trinity is such a confusing mystery, it must have come from divine revelation creates another major problem. Why? Because divine revelation itself does not allow for such a view of God: "God is not a God of confusion."—1 Corinthians 14:33,
Revised Standard Version (
RS).
So God would not allow for 'scriptual confusion'
In the next verse, it says Jesus will be NEXT
to God, not the same person. NOTE THAT A THIRD
'HOLY SPIRIT PERSON' ISN'T MENTIONED;
Mark 14:62:
''I am," said Jesus. "And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."
IF THE Trinity were true, it should be clearly and consistently presented in the Bible. Why? Because, as the apostles affirmed, the Bible is God's revelation of himself to mankind. And since we need to know God to worship him acceptably, the Bible should be clear in telling us just who he is.
Constantine incorporates Pagan Trinity doctrine into mainstream Christianity;
AT THIS point you might ask: 'If the Trinity is not a Biblical teaching, how did it become a doctrine of Christendom?' Many think that it was formulated at the Council of Nicaea in 325 C.E.
What role did this unbaptized emperor play at the Council of Nicaea? The
Encyclopædia Britannica relates: "Constantine himself presided, actively guiding the discussions, and personally proposed . . . the crucial formula expressing the relation of Christ to God in the creed issued by the council, 'of one substance with the Father' . . . Overawed by the emperor, the bishops, with two exceptions only, signed the creed, many of them much against their inclination."
'Fourth century Trinitarianism was a deviation from early Christian teaching.' —The Encyclopedia Americana
Hence, Constantine's role was crucial. After two months of furious religious debate, this pagan politician intervened and decided in favor of those who said that Jesus was God. But why? Certainly not because of any Biblical conviction. "Constantine had basically no understanding whatsoever of the questions that were being asked in Greek theology," says
A Short History of Christian Doctrine. What he did understand was that religious division was a threat to his empire, and he wanted to solidify his domain.
None of the bishops at Nicaea promoted a Trinity, however. They decided only the nature of Jesus but not the role of the holy spirit. If a Trinity had been a clear Bible truth, should they not have proposed it at that time?
Further Development
I think I need to do some more research on Trinity, but I think it's
safe to say it's not biblical;
1 Thessalonians 5:21:
''but test everything that is said. Hold on to what is good.''
2 Timothy 4:3:
''For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.''
More scriptures;
Hebrews 10:12:
''But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;''
Jesus talks with his Father (God), not himself;
John 17:24:
''Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.''
John 17:5:
''And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.''
Jesus said our God is HIS GOD TOO,
not himself;
John 20:17:
''Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet returned to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am returning to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"
However, I respect your views, if you believe in the Trinity that's fine, just put
what I've discovered from various sites and the bible, of course.