Thoughts about using a KJV update?

[Truther]

Yeah but you also think the KJV is what should be used for say a Chinese translation. It's nonsense.

It is a plumbline for a Chinese translation.

What, should you use the RCC Bible, NIV or NWT for language comparisons instead?

 

[Truther]

Are you one who thinks the KJV is actually the Bible sir? I used to.

Yes the KJV is the Bible. I am KJVO. I teach from it and recommend my students to use it exclusively.

 

[Truther]

Which version of the KJV? I highly doubt it is the 1611.

No, it is fine now.

It still has the "thee's and thou's".

Never met anyone that struggled with it in my life.

That misconception is made up by the new age Bible promoters.

 

[Truther]

The basis for all new translations is simple.

Money.

 

[reformed1689]

The basis for all new translations is simple.

Money.

Completely false.

 

[Truther]

Completely false.

Why else would a fella spend 8 years in Bible school?

A burden?

No, he wants his degree and notoriety for money.

The new translation he creates is his crown jewel for dividends.

 

[reformed1689]

Why else would a fella spend 8 years in Bible school?

A burden?

No, he wants his degree and notoriety for money.

The new translation he creates is his crown jewel for dividends.

I went to Bible School for 8 years. Do you think I did it for notoriety and money? What a STUPID comment. Also a lie. You are sinning by bearing false witness sir.

 

[Truther]

I went to Bible School for 8 years. Do you think I did it for notoriety and money? What a STUPID comment. Also a lie. You are sinning by bearing false witness sir.

Too bad.

You wasted your time and money.

You should have obeyed Acts 2:38 and avoided those schools that teach you to disobey and ignore Acts.

You should have obeyed Acts 2:38 and went straight into evangelizing it like the Acts church did.

 

[reformed1689]

Too bad.

You wasted your time and money.

You should have obeyed Acts 2:38 and avoided those schools that teach you to disobey and ignore Acts.

You should have obeyed Acts 2:38 and went straight into evangelizing it like the Acts church did.

What makes you think you cannot evangelize while in school? Another stupid comment from you. I did not waste time or money and I am biblically sound, unlike you.

 

[Truther]

What makes you think you cannot evangelize while in school? Another stupid comment from you. I did not waste time or money and I am biblically sound, unlike you.

Did you obey Acts 2:38?

 

[Jim B]

Yes the KJV is the Bible. I am KJVO. I teach from it and recommend my students to use it exclusively.

The only reason to be a KJVO is that you have a closed mind. Another forum has banned KJVOs permanently, and for a good reason. A closed mind is nothing to be proud of!

 

[Jim B]

The basis for all new translations is simple.

Money.

That is bizarre! Do people not spend money to buy KJV Bibles? Their publishers rake in profits from selling KJVs.

 

[Truther]

The only reason to be a KJVO is that you have a closed mind. Another forum has banned KJVOs permanently, and for a good reason. A closed mind is nothing to be proud of!

I know all about the censorship of biased forums that cannot argue, but instead ban their opposition.

Weak and frail administrators.

 

[Jim B]

What makes you think you cannot evangelize while in school? Another stupid comment from you. I did not waste time or money and I am biblically sound, unlike you.

And modest too!

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Hi, I would love to hear the community’s feedback about using an update to the King James Version. I love the KJV. But the translation is in the main about 400 years old (spelling changes were made in 1769). So if there were an update that simply and accurately updated the KJV, making no changes except updating the archaic language, would you want to use it? What would be your thoughts generally about such an update? It would be great to hear what you all think. May God be glorified.

*Update April 17, 2022: There is a project going on to update the KJV. www.kjvupdate.com

It depends on what you mean by use. If you mean I will use a KJV updated version as my final Word of authority? No.
But if you mean I will use an updated KJV version to help me to figure out what the Cambridge KJB 1900 says… then… yes.
I use Modern bibles all the time, but I don’t simply make them my final Word of authority. Modern bibles are only helpful in updating what the KJB says. Updated versions of the KJB past the Cambridge 1900 Edition all have some kind of changes that are a problem (even if they are subtle changes).

 

[Truther]

That is bizarre! Do people not spend money to buy KJV Bibles? Their publishers rake in profits from selling KJVs.

Sure, it costs money to publish.

But the competition is scarcer with a new and improved translation.

Plus, the author get's to claim he has the perfect word of God that the other's could not produce.

That's quite a cool thing to claim.

 

[Jim B]

I know all about the censorship of biased forums that cannot argue, but instead ban their opposition.

Weak and frail administrators.

Your assumption for the reason of the ban is false. They banned KJVOs because they went on and on and on and on, dogmatically insisting that everyone who doesn't use the KJV is deceived. Sound familiar?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

You realize the same thing can be said about translations such as the ESV and NASB as well right? That's not special to the KJV.

NASB perhaps not so much as it’s an older translation (nevertheless corrupted by the underlying text).

But as far as the ESV: notice how radical a change the ESV translators made to the following scripture reference:

ESV
“To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.”” (Genesis 3:16)

KJV
“Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.” (Genesis 3:16)

NASB
“I will greatly multiply Your pain in childbirth, In pain you shall deliver children; Yet your desire will be for your husband, And he shall rule over you” (Genesis 3:6)

 

[Truther]

Your assumption for the reason of the ban is false. They banned KJVOs because they went on and on and on and on, dogmatically insisting that everyone who doesn't use the KJV is deceived. Sound familiar?

No, the KJVO's get bashed, insulted then banned.

I know first hand what happens when I voice my opinion on those forums.

it is no different than Trump getting banned from sites.

 

[Jim B]

It depends on what you mean by use. If you mean I will use a KJV updated version as my final Word of authority? No.
But if you mean I will use an updated KJV version to help me to figure out what the Cambridge KJB 1900 says… then… yes.
I use Modern bibles all the time, but I don’t simply make them my final Word of authority. Modern bibles are only helpful in updating what the KJB says. Updated versions of the KJB past the Cambridge 1900 Edition all have some kind of changes that are a problem (even if they are subtle changes).

"Modern bibles are only helpful in updating what the KJB says." Really? Modern translations start from scratch, using the best and earliest texts as well as other non-Biblical sources to accurately understand what was written, then convey what was written to our modern society. The society to which the KJV was written is long dead.

To claim that the KJV gives you better understanding is really, really strange. Why don't you write and speak in olde Englyshe?