I corrected you. You have no idea what you're saying.
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John Calvin and Calvinism.
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I corrected you. You have no idea what you're saying.
Co-Equal, Co-Eternal, Co-Powerful.... when God does something ALL of God does it.
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Servetus has nothing to do with the doctrines of grace. Nothing. He was executed on what, at the time, were criminal charges. To peg that on Calvin somehow is to ignore history. Was Calvin involved? As a prosecutor, yes. Did Calvin light the fire? No. Did Calvin warn Servetus not to come? Yes. Did Servetus ignore the warning? Also yes. Was Servetus condemned by protestants and Catholics alike? Yes. So to use Servetus as a way to discredit Calvin on anything is stupid and ignorant.
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You didn't answer the question. Yes or no, do you believe in the Trinity?
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I made a statement of fact. You're ignoring. You obviously don't know the Holy Trinity yourself or you would recognize what I said.
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No I saw what you said, I am trying to make a point. But since you can't just give straight answers, yes, you believe the Trinity. By your argument that means you follow Calvinism. So stop with the word games. Servetus is not a good argument to tear down Calvinistic Theology and you know it.
[QUOTE="reformed1689, post: 1294214, member: 8398"]Servetus has nothing to do with the doctrines of grace. Nothing. He was executed on what, at the time, were criminal charges. To peg that on Calvin somehow is to ignore history. Was Calvin involved? As a prosecutor, yes. Did Calvin light the fire? No. Did Calvin warn Servetus not to come? Yes. Did Servetus ignore the warning? Also yes. Was Servetus condemned by protestants and Catholics alike? Yes. So to use Servetus as a way to discredit Calvin on anything is stupid and ignorant.[/QUOTE]
Thus why you fail... silly child!
Going to have to go with silly Wikipedia because your to lazy to actually do some research!!!
Michael Servetus (/sərˈviːtəs/;[1] Spanish: Miguel Serveto as real name; French: Michel Servet; also known as Miguel Servet, Miguel de Villanueva, Revés, or Michel de Villeneuve; 29 September 1509 or 1511 – 27 October 1553) was a Spanish theologian, physician, cartographer, and Renaissance humanist. He was the first European to correctly describe the function of pulmonary circulation, as discussed in Christianismi Restitutio (1553). He was a polymath versed in many sciences: mathematics, astronomy and meteorology, geography, human anatomy, medicine and pharmacology, as well as jurisprudence, translation, poetry, and the scholarly study of the Bible in its original languages.
He is renowned in the history of several of these fields, particularly medicine. He participated in the Protestant Reformation, and later rejected the Trinity doctrine and mainstream Catholic Christology. After being condemned by Catholic authorities in France, he fled to Calvinist Geneva where he was denounced by Calvin and burned at the stake for heresy by order of the city's governing council.
Calvin believed Servetus deserved death because of what Calvin termed, "execrable blasphemies".[34] Calvin expressed these sentiments in a letter to Farel, written about a week after Servetus' arrest, in which he also mentioned an exchange with Servetus. Calvin wrote:
...after he [Servetus] had been recognized, I thought he should be detained. My friend Nicolas summoned him on a capital charge, offering himself as a security according to the lex talionis. On the following day he adduced against him forty written charges. He at first sought to evade them. Accordingly we were summoned. He impudently reviled me, just as if he regarded me as obnoxious to him. I answered him as he deserved... of the man’s effrontery I will say nothing; but such was his madness that he did not hesitate to say that devils possessed divinity; yea, that many gods were in individual devils, inasmuch as a deity had been substantially communicated to those equally with wood and stone. I hope that sentence of death will at least be passed on him; but I desired that the severity of the punishment be mitigated.[35]
Thus back to my past post... Calvin wanted him DEAD... but just less violent... Sure Servetus was happy about that!!!
Wikipedia continues... At his trial, Servetus was condemned on two counts for spreading and preaching Nontrinitarianism, specifically, Modalistic Monarchianism (or Sabellianism) and anti-paedobaptism (anti-infant baptism).[32]
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Thus why you fail... silly child!
Going to have to go with silly Wikipedia because your to lazy to actually do some research!!!
Michael Servetus (/sərˈviːtəs/;[1] Spanish: Miguel Serveto as real name; French: Michel Servet; also known as Miguel Servet, Miguel de Villanueva, Revés, or Michel de Villeneuve; 29 September 1509 or 1511 – 27 October 1553) was a Spanish theologian, physician, cartographer, and Renaissance humanist. He was the first European to correctly describe the function of pulmonary circulation, as discussed in Christianismi Restitutio (1553). He was a polymath versed in many sciences: mathematics, astronomy and meteorology, geography, human anatomy, medicine and pharmacology, as well as jurisprudence, translation, poetry, and the scholarly study of the Bible in its original languages.
He is renowned in the history of several of these fields, particularly medicine. He participated in the Protestant Reformation, and later rejected the Trinity doctrine and mainstream Catholic Christology. After being condemned by Catholic authorities in France, he fled to Calvinist Geneva where he was denounced by Calvin and burned at the stake for heresy by order of the city's governing council.
Calvin believed Servetus deserved death because of what Calvin termed, "execrable blasphemies".[34] Calvin expressed these sentiments in a letter to Farel, written about a week after Servetus' arrest, in which he also mentioned an exchange with Servetus. Calvin wrote:
...after he [Servetus] had been recognized, I thought he should be detained. My friend Nicolas summoned him on a capital charge, offering himself as a security according to the lex talionis. On the following day he adduced against him forty written charges. He at first sought to evade them. Accordingly we were summoned. He impudently reviled me, just as if he regarded me as obnoxious to him. I answered him as he deserved... of the man’s effrontery I will say nothing; but such was his madness that he did not hesitate to say that devils possessed divinity; yea, that many gods were in individual devils, inasmuch as a deity had been substantially communicated to those equally with wood and stone. I hope that sentence of death will at least be passed on him; but I desired that the severity of the punishment be mitigated.[35]
Thus back to my past post... Calvin wanted him DEAD... but just less violent... Sure Servetus was happy about that!!!
Wikipedia continues... At his trial, Servetus was condemned on two counts for spreading and preaching Nontrinitarianism, specifically, Modalistic Monarchianism (or Sabellianism) and anti-paedobaptism (anti-infant baptism).[32]
- So Michael Servetus was murdered because he Rejected the Trinity and Infant Baptism..... What an EVIL Man.... How many here reject Infant Baptism???? Watch out as reformed1689 will have you burned at the forum stake... for such beliefs... forget what Jesus said... Love your enemies... reformed1689 teaches.... burn your Nontrinitarianism and non Infant Baptism enemies... They hold such evil views....
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My point being that Calvinism taught the Holy Trinity and made my reference valid. That is all. No. It doesn't mean I follow Calvin.
LOLOLOL. I laughed outloud at that last line. I mean his anger can be felt thru my phone at us calvinists. The crazy armenians are acting crazier than usual today.
I don't hate Calvin. I'm the judge of no man.
I do hate the silly man made doctrine that is referenced as Calvinism.
nothing man made about it. Anyone who hates calvinism only hates it because its shown them that they arent saved, and that makes them mad.
"Armenia" is a country.....
No. I'm not an Arminian. I reject them all. I established my beliefs independently of such nonsense.
Nonsense. I hate the doctrine because it tells men they can't come to Jesus.
When a person responds the Gospel, he is not coming on his own. The Gospel made the difference.
so when someone hears the gospel, and they still dont believe, then what?
You know the Scriptures.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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