Or instead of it being a symbolic time span that means completeness based on man made biblical numerology...
It's not "based on man made numerology"... You never answered my question to you concerning the one hundred forty-four
thousand of Revelation 7 and 14, and it's similarity to the
thousand years of Revelation 20.
You also, by the way, haven't responded to my assertion that the events of Revelation 19:11-21 and the events described in Revelation 20:7-10 are both visions of the same event (rather than all the events of Revelation 20 coming after those of all of Revelation 19). To elaborate on that just a bit, Revelation 17-19 as a whole is a concurrent vision with and consisting of the same events as Revelation 20:1-10. Notice the similarity here:
"...the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur." (Revelation 19:19-20)
"...the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." (Revelation 20:10)
We can discuss that, too, if you like.
(which 1000 is not completion BTW)...
Think what you want, my friend. Yes, this discussion is between you and me, but there are a lot of great theologians through the centuries and millennia with whom you're disagreeing, here.
It could mean 1000 years!
Yes, it...
could... but it doesn't, and history bears that out.
Do you really Satan is in the abyss since Pentecost?
Yes... well since Christ came, actually. Satan is "bound" and "in an abyss" in that he is no longer ~ for now, at least, because he will be loosed for a short time near the end ~ able to deceive the nations. As I pointed out before, Christ Jesus Himself said:
"...if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. Or how can someone enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man? Then indeed he may plunder his house." (Matthew 12:28-29)
Jesus is talking there about the same thing that we see in Revelation 20:1-3, where John says he saw, in his dream:
"...an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain. And He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended."
Satan is bound; he is not able to deceive the nations at present, now and since His coming. Before this, the nations were bound, as Satan was able to deceive them. But Jesus unbound them, as we see in His reading of Isaiah 61 when He began His public ministry, reading (in Luke 4:18-19) the following:
"The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor."
He also read from Isaiah 9; Matthew quotes Him in Matthew 4:15-16 as follows:
"The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles ~ the people dwelling in darkness have seen a great light, and for those dwelling in the region and shadow of death, on them a light has dawned."
Whereupon He said:
"Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing," (Luke 4:21) and “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand” (Matthew 4:17)
Not necessarily in that order, as we're not sure, but it is what it is. But yes, Jesus opened the Gospel up to Gentiles. No longer was it just for physical Israel, but for God's Israel, which includes both Jew and Gentile. And in so doing, He "bound (Satan) for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended" (Revelation 20:2-3). Read Revelation 17 very carefully ~ you might need to do that several times; I did ~ and pray about it, and see if the Lord doesn't show you the same thing, that a.) Revelation 17:1 through Revelation 19:10, and b.) Revelation 20:1-6, while different visions, are visions of the
same thing... and particularly that Revelation 17:8 is a pre-telling and foreshadowing of what will eventually happen in Revelation 19:11-21 in this cycle and Revelation 20:7-9 in the next;
"(t)he beast that you saw was, and is not, and is about to rise from the bottomless pit and go to destruction."
You will see it, I think... or maybe not, but it's there.
Grace and peace to you, Ronald.