How to avoid the mark of the Beast.

[Brakelite]

There have always been naysayers among the brethren of the Church, good example, Saint Thomas the doubter.

Except the Catholic Church is overflowing with such ridiculous nonsensical myths and superstitions and tales. Like Patrick getting rid of the snakes in Ireland... Like Pilate's staircase... Like the Donation of Constantine...I could go on.............

 

[James Macbeth]

I have been saying this in this thread all along only Jesus can be the rock that the church is built on because of who He is. The church is only saved because of Jesus that what our faith is built on.

You said much, but proven not a thing.

 

[James Macbeth]

Except the Catholic Church is overflowing with such ridiculous nonsensical myths and superstitions and tales. Like Patrick getting rid of the snakes in Ireland... Like Pilate's staircase... Like the Donation of Constantine...I could go on.............

Did our Lord not walk on water?

Do you not believe in miracles?

 

[Brakelite]

Did our Lord not walk on water?

Do you not believe in miracles?

One must have discernment between a lie and a true act of God. As I said. Superstitions such as the worship of relics. Such as bleeding statues. Such as Medjugorge, and Fatima.... Lies and deceptions, all designed to glorify man and remove the glory away from Jesus. Antichrist through and through.

 

[James Macbeth]

Peter was no better or worse than any other apostle.

And what does that prove?

That's like saying George Washington was no better or worse than any other President.

If Saint Peter is not special, then why did the Father reveal to him, that JESUS was the Christ in Matthew 16:17?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why did JESUS rename, from Simon Bar-Jona, to Peter(Rock) in Matthew 16:18?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why did JESUS give him the Keys to the Kingdom of Heaven, in Matthew 16:19?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why is he called the First in Matthew 10:2?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why did initiate the election of a new Apostle in Acts 1:15?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why did he speak, more than any of the other Apostles?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why did Saint Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:5, say JESUS appeared to Saint Peter first?

And if Saint Peter is not special, then why is he mentioned more than any other of the Apostle?

 

[James Macbeth]

One must have discernment between a lie and a true act of God. As I said. Superstitions such as the worship of relics. Such as bleeding statues. Such as Medjugorge, and Fatima.... Lies and deceptions, all designed to glorify man and remove the glory away from Jesus. Antichrist through and through.

Strange... the Scriptures say otherwise:

2 Corinthians 12:12
The distinguishing marks of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance, by signs, wonders, and miracles.
Acts 2:43
And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders & signs were done by the apostles.

On bleeding statues & Fatima:
Acts 2:19
Even on my male servants & female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
And I will show wonders in the heavens above & signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;

And you disrespect holy Relics, yet Saint Paul did not:
Acts 19:11
And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul; so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.

Even in the old Testament:
2 Kings 13:21
So Elisha died, and they buried him.
Now bands of Moabites used to invade the land in the spring of the year.
And as a man was being buried, behold, a marauding band was seen and the man was thrown into the grave of Elisha, and as soon as the man touched the bones of Elisha, he revived & stood on his feet.

So the question is, what Church do you belong to?
Because if there are no miracles, it is not a Church in which God dwells.

 

[James Macbeth]

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

I thought all we needed was Scripture, but here you are telling us what we need the most is the Apostles Creed, which is not scripture. I think I'll stick with what Paul said instead of what you say and rely on Scripture instead of some creed.

By your own words you confound yourself!
Read 'em & weep.

Behold! the Apostles Creed in the Bible:
Acts 2:42
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Full context:
Acts 2:36
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord & Christ, this JESUS whom you crucified.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter & the rest of the apostles: “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

[James Macbeth]

Yet it doesn’t appear anywhere in the Bible…

You are wrong.

This is the biblical guard:

“Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.” (Revelation 14:12)

By your own words you confound yourself!
Read 'em & weep.

Behold! the Apostles Creed in the Bible:
Acts 2:42
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Full context:
Acts 2:36
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord & Christ, this JESUS whom you crucified.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter & the rest of the apostles: “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

[James Macbeth]

God's words are sufficient, no Apostles creed needed, you have been clearly shown

2 Timothy 3:16-17KJV
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

By your own words you confound yourself!
Read 'em & weep.

Behold! the Apostles Creed in the Bible:
Acts 2:42
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Full context:
Acts 2:36
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord & Christ, this JESUS whom you crucified.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter & the rest of the apostles: “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

[James Macbeth]

The Apostles lived for several hundred years?

To avoid the mark, accept the Atonement of the Cross. To reject Jesus as the Lamb of God is to accept anything Satan has to offer.

What about the simple words of Jesus Himself, "I am the Resurrection and the Life, he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live"


The Apostles Creed is itself man's reasonings. It was reasoned by someone hundreds of years after the Apostles were all dead.



Then how can you place Peter a stone as being more important than Jesus Christ the rock, not cut out with human hands, the chief cornerstone?

By your own words you confound yourself!
Read 'em & weep.

Behold! the Apostles Creed in the Bible:
Acts 2:42
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Full context:
Acts 2:36
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord & Christ, this JESUS whom you crucified.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter & the rest of the apostles: “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

[James Macbeth]

How can the Apostles creed be made by the original Apostles? There was no Catholic church yet to speak of.

From what I understand the Apostles creed was made by the RCC in one of their first gatherings (I forget what there called) some hundreds of years after Christ

By your own words you confound yourself!
Read 'em & weep.

Behold! the Apostles Creed in the Bible:
Acts 2:42
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Full context:
Acts 2:36
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord & Christ, this JESUS whom you crucified.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter & the rest of the apostles: “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

 

[James Macbeth]

There have been many enemies against the Apostles Creed, claiming "it's is not in Gods Word", or that "someone invented it".
And now I have found the proof, being led by the holy Ghost, in the new Testament, that the Apostles Creed existed.

Remember God humbles the proud, and extols the humble.
All those who were against the Apostles Creed, were being led by the Devil, the Emperor of Filth himself.

Repent!

Behold! the Apostles Creed in the Bible:
Acts 2:42
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

Full context:
Acts 2:36
Let all the house of Israel therefore know for certain that God has made him both Lord & Christ, this JESUS whom you crucified.
Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter & the rest of the apostles: “Brothers, what shall we do?”
And Peter said to them: “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.”
And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.”
So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.
And they were persevering in the Apostles' Doctrine, and in the fellowship of the breaking of bread, and in prayers.

May the Angel of the Apocalypses bless you!

 

[Timtofly]

You keep calling Jesus the rock, but why?
When Saint Paul calls him the Cornerstone.
Other Saints call him the foundation.
But no one calls him the rock.

"Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands"

"the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."

"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands"

Are you saying Peter was the stone cut out of the mountain without hands?

You may as well admit now it was Peter on the Cross. Since without the Cross there would be no church.

 

[James Macbeth]

"Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands"

"the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth."

"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands"

Are you saying Peter was the stone cut out of the mountain without hands?

You may as well admit now it was Peter on the Cross. Since without the Cross there would be no church.

I am saying you don't understand the Original languages, therefore your opinion does not matter.

 

[Brakelite]

Strange... the Scriptures say otherwise:

2 Corinthians 12:12
The distinguishing marks of a true apostle were performed among you with all perseverance, by signs, wonders, and miracles.
Acts 2:43
And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders & signs were done by the apostles.

On bleeding statues & Fatima:
Acts 2:19
Even on my male servants & female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
And I will show wonders in the heavens above & signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;

And you disrespect holy Relics, yet Saint Paul did not:
Acts 19:11
And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul; so that even handkerchiefs or aprons that had touched his skin were carried away to the sick, and their diseases left them and the evil spirits came out of them.

Even in the old Testament:
2 Kings 13:21
So Elisha died, and they buried him.
Now bands of Moabites used to invade the land in the spring of the year.
And as a man was being buried, behold, a marauding band was seen and the man was thrown into the grave of Elisha, and as soon as the man touched the bones of Elisha, he revived & stood on his feet.

So the question is, what Church do you belong to?
Because if there are no miracles, it is not a Church in which God dwells.

I didn't say there aren't miracles. I said there's a difference between those true miracles of God which glorify Him and lead to the vindication of the principles of the kingdom of God, and those false so called miracles which like the ones performed by the witches of Pharaoh, were designed to glorify the kingdom of man and this glorify man. When you consider all the so called miracles recorded by your church, which ones glorify God and tend to establish righteousness and obedience to God's commandments, and which ones exalt thee fame and the status of man and his institutions?

 

[Brakelite]

I didn't say there aren't miracles. I said there's a difference between those true miracles of God which glorify Him and lead to the vindication of the principles of the kingdom of God, and those false so called miracles which like the ones performed by the witches of Pharaoh, were designed to glorify the kingdom of man and this glorify man. When you consider all the so called miracles recorded by your church, which ones glorify God and tend to establish righteousness and obedience to God's commandments, and which ones exalt thee fame and the status of man and his institutions?

@James Macbeth for example. The miracles that are said to have been enacted by certain individuals thus confirming them as saints. Do they glorify God, or are they simply honoring the individual and used to exalt the man above his station?

 

[ThePuffyBlob]

you do that
but yes i will say that in my heart except #9 but that will not just be limited to the so called apostle's creed but to everything that is true according to the bible in my heart not in my mouth because other people will hear me

The number one guard against the mark of the Beast, is the Apostles Creed.

but i do not believe it is number 1 guard sure it can help but still it depends on you because in the end it is your choice to stay or leave just like how the jews used to be with us but now they are gone astray just like how you glorify #9 i don't believe catholic is holy but i believe catholic ministers wears righteousness but inwardly they are wolves their churches are full of cursed manmade design

 

[BarneyFife]

How so? All you do is make claims and then proceed to back them up with utter nonsense if you back them up at all. No one here is fooled by your nonsense, so why do you bother?

I belong to a group of 22 million who believe the same "nonsense."

 

[James Macbeth]

@James Macbeth for example. The miracles that are said to have been enacted by certain individuals thus confirming them as saints. Do they glorify God, or are they simply honoring the individual and used to exalt the man above his station?

You have to look at each one.

Example:
Saint Maximilian Kolbe, was a Polish Catholic priest & Conventual Franciscan friar who volunteered to die in place of a man named Franciszek Gajowniczek in the German death camp of Auschwitz, located in German-occupied Poland during World War II.

At the end of July 1941, one prisoner escaped from the camp, prompting SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, the deputy camp commander, to pick ten men to be starved to death in an underground bunker to deter further escape attempts.
When one of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, "My wife! My children!" Kolbe volunteered to take his place.

According to an eyewitness, who was an assistant janitor at that time, in his prison cell Kolbe led the prisoners in prayer.
Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell and looking calmly at those who entered.
After they had been starved and deprived of water for two weeks, only Kolbe remained alive.

Saint Maximilian Kolbe is said to have converted 2,000 Jews to the Faith, and still to this day, may Jews convert because of his story.

Because the guards wanted the cell emptied, the remaining prisoners and Kolbe were executed with a lethal injection.
Those present say he calmly accepted death, lifting up his arm.

Now you see that God dwells in the Catholic church.

Biography of Saint Maximilian - Saint Maximilian Kolbe Church

 

[covenantee]

You keep calling Jesus the rock, but why?
When Saint Paul calls him the Cornerstone.
Other Saints call him the foundation.
But no one calls him the rock.

1 Corinthians 10:4
And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.