BARNEY BRIGHT
Well-Known Member
You guys seem to have an "excuse" for so many verses...not the right version, they changed this or that...blah blah blah.
You seem to be an intelligent woman, and you are very faithful to the JW's. I know you think that the Arc angel, Michael was, is Jesus...God NEVER called an angel His son. You are too swift for me and I won't take you on.
You say JW are making excuses for so many verses, or that it's not the right version of the scriptures. It's not only JW that say certain things have been added to the scriptures or certain version of the scriptures have translated certain scriptures differently from many other versions of the scriptures. This, what you're talking about, has been going on for centuries. Stop trying to make out this has only started up in our day. Plus all I hear from people is complaints concerning JW. These who are complaining have offered to scriptural proof that any Scripture said Jesus Christ is God or where Jesus Christ said he was God. All I've seen people do is take scriptures out of context to prove their belief. Anybody can take any scripture out of context to prove anything they want, which is why I'm against taking scripture out of context. I don't let anyone's interpretation of a scripture influence me to believe what a group of people are saying is true. When Peter said you are the Christ the son of the living God when Jesus ask his disciples who they believed he was, that what Peter said is what I believe, not anybody's interpretation of that scripture. When Jesus Christ himself says after his resurrection that he has a Father and God who is his apostles and disciples Father and God that's what I believe not somebody's interpretation of that scripture etc.
The name of this Michael appears only five times in the Bible. The glorious spirit person who bears this name is referred to as “one of the chief princes,” “the great prince who has charge of Daniel’s people,” and as “the archangel.” (Daniel 10:13; 12:1; Jude 9) Michael means “Who Is Like God?” The name evidently designates Michael as the one who takes the lead in upholding Jehovah’s sovereignty and destroying God’s enemies.
At 1 Thessalonians 4:16 the command of Jesus Christ for the resurrection to begin is described as “the archangel’s call,” and Jude 9 says that the archangel is Michael. The question should be asked, "Would it be appropriate to liken Jesus’ commanding call to that of someone lesser in authority?" I believe it to be reasonable that the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ. Also, what i find nteresting is the expression “archangel” is never found in the plural in the scriptures, implying that there is only one.
Revelation 12:7-12 says that Michael and his angels would war against Satan and hurl him and his wicked angels out of heaven in connection with the conferring of kingly authority on Christ. Jesus is later depicted as leading the armies of heaven in war against the nations of the world. (Rev. 19:11-16) So again I question, "is it not reasonable that Jesus would also be the one to take action against the one he described as “ruler of this world,” Satan the Devil? (John 12:31)
Daniel 12:1 associates the ‘standing up of Michael’ to act with authority with “a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time.” That would certainly fit the experience of the nations when Christ as heavenly executioner takes action against them. So the evidence that is in the scriptures indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God. It's not unreasonable that the scriptures refer to a person with more than one name in the scriptures. So the son of God having another name such as Michael isn't unreasonable to me.