Christians and Jews are both anti Acts 2:38.

[Dropship]

And people who've been water-baptised should be careful not to think "Yippee, hoot, holler, that's me saved forever, nothing can touch me now", making them unwisely drop their guard against satan and the demons of arrogance..

 

[ChristisGod]

It is before those.

First things first.

Don't skip Acts 2:38, Dan.

Were the OT saints saved ? yes or no

Were they saved by faith ? yes or no

Was the Day of Pentecost a fulfillment of OT prophecy ? yes or no

 

[Jim B]

Tongues is not for everyone.

None of the gifts are for everyone. It is up to God, how He wants to distribute them.

 

[Truther]

I don't oppose it because I don't interpret it in contradiction with Acts 3:19; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:8,9; 16:31; 26:18.

That's the problem, Dan.

Instead of obeying Acts 2:38, you "interpret" it.

Just like the RCC did in the 4th century until today.

 

[Truther]

This is a very strange statement. Anyone can read forward in Acts, or the entire Bible for that matter. They don't need your permission.

If you skip Acts 2:38, you are not of the 3000 at Pentecost.

You are not in the church or saved.

You can't skip start on a board game, nor in Acts.

Anyone that skips start(Acts 2:38) needs to be sent back to start(Acts 2:38) and get it fixed, before they proceed reading and applying the rest of the NT.

 

[Truther]

Were the OT saints saved ? yes or no

Were they saved by faith ? yes or no

Was the Day of Pentecost a fulfillment of OT prophecy ? yes or no

Acts 2:38 was post OT.

OT saints are not NT saints.(We don't kill Philistines anymore to be righteous by faith and obey God).

The day of Pentecost ushered in the NT.

The OT is only used to make sinners, sinners.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

Mixing law with GRACE NEVER works! (Romans_11:6)

GRACE And Peace...

 

[Truther]

Mixing law with GRACE NEVER works! (Romans_11:6)

GRACE And Peace...

Correct.

The Law is for sinners.

 

[Jim B]

If you skip Acts 2:38, you are not of the 3000 at Pentecost.

You are not in the church or saved.

You can't skip start on a board game, nor in Acts.

Anyone that skips start(Acts 2:38) needs to be sent back to start(Acts 2:38) and get it fixed, before they proceed reading and applying the rest of the NT.

Oy vey!

Acts 2:38, " “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Baptized in the name is not baptized in water. Here is what The Believer's Bible Commentary has to say about this. (with my emphases). I suggest you read it!...

At first glance, this verse seems to teach salvation by baptism, and many people insist that this is precisely what it does mean. Such an interpretation is impossible for the following reasons:

1. In dozens of NT passages, salvation is said to be by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:12; 3:16, 36; 6:47; Acts 16:31; Rom. 10:9, for example). No verse or two could conceivably contradict such overwhelming testimony.
2. The thief on the cross had the assurance of salvation apart from baptism (Luke 23:43).
3. The Savior is not stated to have baptized anyone, a strange omission if baptism is essential to salvation.
4. The Apostle Paul was thankful that he baptized only a few of the Corinthians—a strange cause for thankfulness if baptism has saving merit (1 Cor. 1:14–16).

It is important to notice that only Jews were ever told to be baptized for the forgiveness of sins (see Acts 22:16). In this fact, we believe, is the secret to the understanding of this passage. The nation of Israel had crucified the Lord of glory. The Jewish people had cried out, “His blood be on us and on our children” (Matt. 27:25). The guilt of the Messiah’s death was thus claimed by the people of Israel.

Now, some of these Jews had come to realize their mistake. By repentance they acknowledged their sin to God. By trusting the Lord Jesus as their Savior they were regenerated and received eternal forgiveness of sins. By public water baptism they dissociated themselves from the nation that crucified the Lord and identified themselves with Him. Baptism thus became the outward sign that their sin in connection with the rejection of Christ (as well as all their sins) had been washed away. It took them off Jewish ground and placed them on Christian ground. But baptism did not save them. Only faith in Christ could do that. To teach otherwise is to teach another gospel and thus be accursed (Gal. 1:8, 9).

 

[Truther]

Oy vey!

Acts 2:38, " “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Baptized in the name is not baptized in water. Here is what The Believer's Bible Commentary has to say about this. (with my emphases). I suggest you read it!...

At first glance, this verse seems to teach salvation by baptism, and many people insist that this is precisely what it does mean. Such an interpretation is impossible for the following reasons:

1. In dozens of NT passages, salvation is said to be by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:12; 3:16, 36; 6:47; Acts 16:31; Rom. 10:9, for example). No verse or two could conceivably contradict such overwhelming testimony.
2. The thief on the cross had the assurance of salvation apart from baptism (Luke 23:43).
3. The Savior is not stated to have baptized anyone, a strange omission if baptism is essential to salvation.
4. The Apostle Paul was thankful that he baptized only a few of the Corinthians—a strange cause for thankfulness if baptism has saving merit (1 Cor. 1:14–16).

It is important to notice that only Jews were ever told to be baptized for the forgiveness of sins (see Acts 22:16). In this fact, we believe, is the secret to the understanding of this passage. The nation of Israel had crucified the Lord of glory. The Jewish people had cried out, “His blood be on us and on our children” (Matt. 27:25). The guilt of the Messiah’s death was thus claimed by the people of Israel.

Now, some of these Jews had come to realize their mistake. By repentance they acknowledged their sin to God. By trusting the Lord Jesus as their Savior they were regenerated and received eternal forgiveness of sins. By public water baptism they dissociated themselves from the nation that crucified the Lord and identified themselves with Him. Baptism thus became the outward sign that their sin in connection with the rejection of Christ (as well as all their sins) had been washed away. It took them off Jewish ground and placed them on Christian ground. But baptism did not save them. Only faith in Christ could do that. To teach otherwise is to teach another gospel and thus be accursed (Gal. 1:8, 9).

Like this?...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ BY THE HOLY GHOST for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


You actually believe that "believers Bible"?

 

[Jim B]

Like this?...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ BY THE HOLY GHOST for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.


You actually believe that "believers Bible"?

a) That explanation is from "The Believers Bible Commentary". It is a scholarly work that clearly explains the meaning of Scripture. FYI, I believe what scholars write, not your personal misinterpretation.

I don't know which translation you're quoting from, but none of the many translations of that verse listed in biblegateway.com have that verse as you quote it.

 

[Truther]

a) That explanation is from "The Believers Bible Commentary". It is a scholarly work that clearly explains the meaning of Scripture. FYI, I believe what scholars write, not your personal misinterpretation.

I don't know which translation you're quoting from, but none of the many translations of that verse listed in biblegateway.com have that verse as you quote it.

I was sayng what the "believers Bible"was trying to tell you.

It makes no sense.

And Bible that is a commentary laced Bible is red flagged.

 

[Jim B]

I was sayng what the "believers Bible"was trying to tell you.

It makes no sense.

And Bible that is a commentary laced Bible is red flagged.

What "believers Bible" are you referring to?

Do you really disregard scholarly analysis of the meaning of Scripture? No wonder you're so confused and make so many doctrinal errors!

I have read many absurd statements on this forum but your writing that a "Bible that is a commentary laced Bible is red flagged" is right up there with the most absurd.

 

[Truther]

What "believers Bible" are you referring to?

Do you really disregard scholarly analysis of the meaning of Scripture? No wonder you're so confused and make so many doctrinal errors!

I have read many absurd statements on this forum but your writing that a "Bible that is a commentary laced Bible is red flagged" is right up there with the most absurd.

I red flagged it.

Why, because they are trying to say this...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Means this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized BY THE HOLY GHOST every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[Jim B]

I red flagged it.

Why, because they are trying to say this...


38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Means this...

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized BY THE HOLY GHOST every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Show me where that occurs anywhere in my posts. The words "BY THE HOLY GHOST" are your words, not mine and not from the commentary I cited. You're obviously making things up. Frankly, I'm not surprised that you're doing that!

 

[Truther]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Show me where that occurs anywhere in my posts. The words "BY THE HOLY GHOST" are your words, not mine and not from the commentary I cited. You're obviously making things up. Frankly, I'm not surprised that you're doing that!

Of course I am making it up.

The Bible I was speaking of was worth joking about.

They are trying to lay claim to the Acts skippers Bible that I shall invent.

 

[Jim B]

Of course I am making it up.

The Bible I was speaking of was worth joking about.

They are trying to lay claim to the Acts skippers Bible that I shall invent.

You think that God's word is something to joke about and deliberately distort???

 

[Truther]

You think that God's word is something to joke about and deliberately distort???

No, that is why I read only my KJV and promote blind obedience to Acts 2:38.

 

[Jim B]

No, that is why I read only my KJV and promote blind obedience to Acts 2:38.

Maybe those are your problems!

Acts 2:38 (NET): Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Acts 2:38 (KJV): Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Aside from the difference between modern English and archaic Englyshe, they are saying exactly the same thing.

 

[Truther]

Maybe those are your problems!

Acts 2:38 (NET): Peter said to them, “Repent, and each one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit."

Acts 2:38 (KJV): Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Aside from the difference between modern English and archaic Englyshe, they are saying exactly the same thing.

Nope, remission is not equal to forgiveness.

God can forgive an act of sin, but to remit one's sins spans everything and makes one appear to God, free from even future sins.