Why don’t you believe Satan has been defeated?

[MatthewG]

Then how was Satan able to travel back and forth from heaven to earth?

Job 2:2

And the LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

 

[face2face]

@MatthewG

Now that you know the meaning of devil and satan...

Can you have a good devil?

Yes or No?

Can you have a good satan?

Yes or No?

 

[MatthewG]

To think that Satan wasn’t real is a misnomer in my opinion.

 

[face2face]

Then how was Satan able to travel back and forth from heaven to earth?

Job 2:2

And the LORD said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the LORD, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”

Who brought the evil upon Job?

Before you answer be very careful not to do so quickly for you could look like a fool!

 

[MatthewG]

Satan has been defeated and done away with…

There is no real reason to resurrect him from the dead. He is in the lake of fire, Face2Face sir.

 

[MatthewG]

You didn’t even answer my question…

 

[face2face]

To think that Satan wasn’t real is a misnomer in my opinion.

Very real...just needs defining

 

[MatthewG]

Satan has been done away with everyone, but if you believe Satan is still around you may continue to do so.

There is still darkness that we fight - we don’t fight flesh and blood, nor Satan and his angels.

 

[face2face]

You didn’t even answer my question…

Who do you think it could have been? Have you considered 2 Chronicles 16:9?

 

[MatthewG]

Face2Face what do you believe Satan is, either he was real and had an effect on earth or what?

You explain to me what you believe.

 

[MatthewG]

Again anyone interested in a good study bible.

KJV Thompson Chain-Reference Large-Print Bible--bonded leather, black

 

[face2face]

It's interesting you run off the Job to show the adversary. The OT teaching of a supernatural evil being is so weak its laughable.

If you know the subject well you would know that much.

 

[face2face]

Again anyone interested in a good study bible.

KJV Thompson Chain-Reference Large-Print Bible--bonded leather, black

Not a relevant translation for our modern era....too many errors! Psalms 2:4 is a good example....that's why I dont like the New American as it makes many of the same mistakes.

 

[face2face]

Face2Face what do you believe Satan is, either he was real and had an effect on earth or what?

You explain to me what you believe.

Well, a few posts back you established that Peter was satan...that's a good start in my opinion.

Well done on that!

 

[MatthewG]

If you would like to explain your view please feel free to do so. You already understand mine there is no reason for me to explain my view anymore.

 

[Lambano]

To me the world still had darkness that resides within people that people fight, not everyone is a follower of Jesus.

Why has the Darkness not already been defeated? Why do we still have to fight against it?

 

[MatthewG]

Because it has been here since the beginning, @Lambano. There also seems to be shades of darkness in the heavenly realm (Not in the Kingdom of God though), but that is all conjecture.


““Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22:12-16‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Genesis 1:1-3

 

[face2face]

Because it has been here since the beginning, @Lambano. There also seems to be shades of darkness in the heavenly realm (Not in the Kingdom of God though), but that is all conjecture.


““Look, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to each person according to what they have done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city. Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.””
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22:12-16‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Genesis 1:1-3

What shades of darkness in the Heavenly Realm?

This passage is in reference to the Kingdom of God being on earth!

Where do you get this stuff from?

Revelation 22:24 The nations will walk by its light and the kings of the earth will bring their grandeur into it.

There will be sin in the kingdom age that's for certain!...but please leave Heaven out of your false notions.

 

[face2face]

If you would like to explain your view please feel free to do so. You already understand mine there is no reason for me to explain my view anymore.

You haven't explained a thing Matthew and what it is you believe I don't believe you know yourself. I think you have these words in your mind and someone has told you 1+1=3 and no matter how many times you are shown it's 2 you hold onto 3 with your dear life.

 

[Lambano]

Because it has been here since the beginning, @Lambano.

When will the Darkness be defeated?