BARNEY BRIGHT
Well-Known Member
Post said,
then men kill souls by killing fleshly bodies, which is not what Jesus says. Jesus says exactly the opposite.
should i believe Him?
read it again:
fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul [/Quote\]
I said that the Bauer's Greek- English Lexington of the New Testament, revised by F. W. Gingrich and F. Danker, 1979, page 95 gives this meaning "eternal death" with reference to the Greek phrase at Matthew 10:28 translated, "destroy both soul and body in Gehenna." This phrase is talking about eternal death. There's a difference between death and eternal death. The death we all experience because of sin even if we're killed by other humans, is a temporary death, which means you temporarily stop existing as a living person. The word soul at Matthew10:28 means life, not some invisible person inside the human body. So Matthew 10:28 is telling us not to fear those who can destroy you temporarily as a living person, but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna. This means God can destroy a human out of existence as a living person for eternity, this is the person to fear. A person will not will get a resurrection that suffers the fires of Gehenna. While those who receive death by men killing them will exist again as living persons in the resurrection.
I think most people have a problem with what I say concerning Matthew 10:28 because most people who say they believe in death don't actually believe in death, because most people say a person goes on living in another form at death. So because they don't believe death means a person stops existing as a living person, but instead they believe humans continue living in some spirit form they don't actually believe in death. Genesis 2:7 shows us that if that breath of life(spirit) is not in that flesh and blood human body then that living soul or living person doesn't exist. It's not the breath of life(spirit) separate from the flesh and blood human body that is the living soul or living person. So anyone trying to teach that the soul at Matthew 10:28 is some spiritual living person inside a human body is contradicting Genesis 2:7. Scripture doesn't contradict another Scripture. Genesisc2:7 is how God made the first human a living person. This scripture isn't going to change for anybody and anyone trying to use another scripture to contradict Genesis 2:7 are the ones who will always be incorrect. We flesh and blood human beings are souls we don't have souls.
then men kill souls by killing fleshly bodies, which is not what Jesus says. Jesus says exactly the opposite.
should i believe Him?
read it again:
fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul [/Quote\]
I said that the Bauer's Greek- English Lexington of the New Testament, revised by F. W. Gingrich and F. Danker, 1979, page 95 gives this meaning "eternal death" with reference to the Greek phrase at Matthew 10:28 translated, "destroy both soul and body in Gehenna." This phrase is talking about eternal death. There's a difference between death and eternal death. The death we all experience because of sin even if we're killed by other humans, is a temporary death, which means you temporarily stop existing as a living person. The word soul at Matthew10:28 means life, not some invisible person inside the human body. So Matthew 10:28 is telling us not to fear those who can destroy you temporarily as a living person, but fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna. This means God can destroy a human out of existence as a living person for eternity, this is the person to fear. A person will not will get a resurrection that suffers the fires of Gehenna. While those who receive death by men killing them will exist again as living persons in the resurrection.
I think most people have a problem with what I say concerning Matthew 10:28 because most people who say they believe in death don't actually believe in death, because most people say a person goes on living in another form at death. So because they don't believe death means a person stops existing as a living person, but instead they believe humans continue living in some spirit form they don't actually believe in death. Genesis 2:7 shows us that if that breath of life(spirit) is not in that flesh and blood human body then that living soul or living person doesn't exist. It's not the breath of life(spirit) separate from the flesh and blood human body that is the living soul or living person. So anyone trying to teach that the soul at Matthew 10:28 is some spiritual living person inside a human body is contradicting Genesis 2:7. Scripture doesn't contradict another Scripture. Genesisc2:7 is how God made the first human a living person. This scripture isn't going to change for anybody and anyone trying to use another scripture to contradict Genesis 2:7 are the ones who will always be incorrect. We flesh and blood human beings are souls we don't have souls.