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ScottA
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Yes...and I gave the definitions of His usage. Here they are again:
Gen 2:7
And the LORD H3068 God H430 formed H3335 man H120 of the dust H6083 of H4480 the ground, H127 and breathed H5301 into his nostrils H639 the breath H5397 of life; H2416 and man H120 became a living H2416 soul. H5315
Gen 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature H5315 after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Which makes it quite clear that any assumption that the soul is a third component in addition to the flesh and the spirit, is just that: assumed. But, hey, if you have a specific scripture that says that the soul of men is something other than that of animals, please post it.And the LORD H3068 God H430 formed H3335 man H120 of the dust H6083 of H4480 the ground, H127 and breathed H5301 into his nostrils H639 the breath H5397 of life; H2416 and man H120 became a living H2416 soul. H5315
Gen 1:24
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature H5315 after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Are others animals like us humans? No. Why? Because they don't have a soul. Without a soul, we'd just be talking animals.
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No...that is not biblical. I gave you the verses showing that life in the flesh is the same for both, by the same Word.
If other animals have a soul like we do, then they'd be like us, but you have no explanation for why they aren't. I do however, and it's because they don't have a soul as we do. So, you're misunderstanding Bible verses if you think otherwise.
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You are treating the term "soul" as a third component, which it is not. It's just God's word for would-be "life" before being born [again] of the Spirit--and it is that birth and life that makes man different. Otherwise both man and animals were made "living souls" or "beings" according to the word of God.
God only made man, not any of the other animals, into His image and likeness (Gen. 1:26). How did God do that? By giving us a soul (Gen. 2:7). Jesus explained the soul is an unquestionable sign of His Most Holy Paternity that shows signs of the qualities characteristic of Him Who creates it. It is therefore intelligent, spiritual, free, immortal, like the Father Who created it, etc.
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No...not at all like the Father, God is spirit. Man is only created in His image.
I gave you the scriptures--the word is the same for both man and animals.
Since you prefer darkness, darkness it is. You're on your own.
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havent figured out what standing in the holy place means yet, huh
yikes
ok good luck buddy
Incorrect. Again, only man was made in God the Father's image and likeness (Gen. 1:26). How did God do that? By giving us a soul which is spiritual (Gen. 2:7) because God is Spirit (Jn. 4:24).
BARNEY BRIGHT
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Anyone saying that a person continues living at death is contradicting Genesis 2:7. The scripture Genesis 2:7 tells us it's the combination of God taking dust from the ground and forming it into a flesh and blood body and blowing the breath of life(spirit) into that flesh and blood body is what makes a living soul or living person. This scripture Genesis 2:7 contradicts anyone who says that the breath of life (spirit) separately, on its own, without the flesh and blood body is a living person. Because that breath of life (spirit) has to be combined with a flesh and blood body to be a living soul or living person.
Now this is a very interesting comment brother. A living being is indeed a combination of these three things. A being that breathes air. What then is the writer talking about in Matthew 10:28? Bless you!
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BARNEY BRIGHT
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I know that a scripture doesn't contradict another scripture, so, Matthew 10:28 doesn't contradict Genesis 2:7. As scripture shows us, Genesis 2:7 is telling us the breath of life(spirit) combined with the flesh and blood body is what makes a living soul or living person. It's not the breath of life(spirit) separately, on it own, a living person. Neither is a flesh and blood body, separately, on its own, without the breath of life, (spirit) a living soul or living person.
When a person dies the body goes back into the ground from which it was taken and the breath of life(spirit) goes back to God who gave it. When the spirit, leaves the body, the body dies and returns to where it came from, the ground, and the spirit returns to where it came from, God. (Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9) This does not mean that the spirit actually or literally travels to heaven. As the scriptures shows us the spirit separately, on it's own, without the flesh and blood body isn't a living person. So, when scripture says the spirit returns to God, it means that for someone who dies, any hope of future life or future existence rests with YHWH God. That human beings life is in God’s hands. Only by God’s power can the spirit be given back to a flesh and blood body so that he/she will be a living soul or living person again. That living person will not exist again, until such time as the resurrection of the dead.
Matthew 10: 28 is telling those who are the faithful servants of God to not fear those who can kill the body, meaning such people can kill you yes, but they don't have the authority or the ability to kill your eternal existence. When they kill you, you're dead and will not exist for a temporary time, but God can resurrect you back to life at the time of the resurrection, it's then, you will exist again as a living person. It's only God who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna. Gehenna doesn't represent a place, it represents a condition, a eternal condition. When God destroys both body and soul in Gehenna its an eternal destruction, you lose your eternal life. You are destroyed out of existence forever, there is no hope of a resurrection back to life or back into existence as a living person. So when the scriptures say to fear him who can destroy both body and soul in Gehenna it's talking about about fearing him who can destroy that living person out of existence for eternity, there's no hope for those persons destroyed by God in Gehenna to exist as a living person ever again.
BARNEY BRIGHT
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The usual way that people try to uphold the teaching of the immortalness and indestructibleness of the human soul is by quoting only the first half of Matthew 10:28. Why? Because in the last half of the verse Jesus goes on to say: “But rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.” That is to say, fear Almighty God who can destroy the human soul as well as the human body, in Gehenna. This is the Greek word mistranslated “hell,” it not being the same Greek word as haides, and tartaros, which words the King James Version also translates as “hell.”
So Jesus agrees that the living soul ceases to exist when, both body and soul are destroyed in Gehenna.
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