"The word was a god"?

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I look forward to your thoughtful reply.
HE IS CALLED GOD
Isaiah 9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall
be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The
mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word
was God.
John 20:28
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
Titus 2:13
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God
and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Heb.1:8
8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever…
John 5:20
20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself
doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.
Rom.9:5
5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came,
who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
According to Jeremiah 10:10-11, the true God is the God who made heaven
and earth. We notice in John 1:3 and Col.1:16, that Jesus made all things.
2. HE IS CALLED THE SON OF GOD
Matthew.2:15
15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was
spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Mark 1:1
The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
John 1:34
34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
A - ACTS OF DIVINITY
x SANCTIFICATION
1 Corinthians 1:2
2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in
Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name
of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
1 Corintians 6:11
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but
ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
Hebrews 10:10
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of
Jesus Christ once for all.
x INDWELLING
Ephesians 3:17
17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and
grounded in love,
John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my
words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our
abode with him.
John 17:23
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that
the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast
loved me.

Galatians 2:20
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in
me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of
God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
x RESURRECTION
John 2:19
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days
I will raise it up.
John 11:25
25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in
me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
John 10:18
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it
down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of
my Father.
John 11:43-44
43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come
forth.
44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes:
and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose
him, and let him go.
x CREATION
Gen 1:1
In the beginning God created the Heaven and the earth.
Heb 1:10
10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and
the heavens are the works of thine hands:
Col 1:16
16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities,
or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
x REGENERATION
I Jn 5:1
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one
that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
John 1:12-13
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of
God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of
man, but of God.
John 20:31
31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son
of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
x INSPIRATION
John 20:22
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them,
Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
x GIVER OF LIFE
John 6:33

33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life
unto the world.
John 6:51
51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this
bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I
will give for the life of the world.
John 10:10
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come
that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
T - TITLES OF DIVINITY
1. ALPHA AND OMEGA
Rev.22:13
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
2. BEGINNING AND END
Rev.22:13
13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
3. FIRST AND LAST
Rev.1:17
17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand
upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:
4. ALMIGHTY
Rev.1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which
is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
5. I AM
John 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I
am.
6. MIGHTY GOD
Is.9:6
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall
be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The
mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
7. WORD OF GOD
Rev.19:13
13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called
The Word of God.
8. KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS
Rev 19:16
16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF
KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
U - UNIQUENESS OF JESUS
1. HIS BIRTH WAS UNIQUE - born of a virgin (Matt.1:23).
2. MINISTRY WAS UNIQUE - healing, miracles, demonic deliverances testify of
His unique ministry.
3. DEATH WAS UNIQUE - according to John 19:30, He killed Himself.
4. RESURRECTION WAS UNIQUE - John 10:11

This is non-debatable
The Deity of Christ is under attack the world over.
Scriptures confirms the Deity of Messiah.
I read it, and believe it.
 
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I'm glad I didn't call the Father "a false God"!

You did by this post.

Amen! Jesus is the real God of the Bible.

I doubt you are aware of how this statement destroys the trinity. If Jesus is the real God of the Bible, it necessarily means that the trinitarian god is not the real God of the Bible. And it also means the Father is not the real God of the Bible since Jesus is not the Father.

I don't say things in any contex that say anything other than the Father is the only true and real God of the Bible. (See Jesus at John 17:3)
 

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"Biblical Unitarianism, contrary to its name, is not biblical. The problem is their false view of the nature God and the person of Christ. "

Websites do not determine truth. Sad that you rely on copy and pasting websites as a proxy for discussion and argument. For instance,
P1. For us, there is only one God, the Father.
P2. Jesus is not the Father.
C. Jesus is not God.

I look forward to your thoughtful reply.
You are entitled to your beliefs. I disagree. So does this forum.
 
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You are entitled to your beliefs. I disagree. So does this forum.
Some kind of Appeal to Majority again. You too are entitled to your beliefs. I showed how mine are logical. You reference a forum that disagrees or rather denies the logical argument, the explict Scriputural teaching.
 

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Let's look at the Hebrew word God uses to describe his oneness in the Old testament. When God says "Hear Oh Isreal the Lord thy God is One" that word can also be translated as unity, the same word that the bible uses to describe the nature of the marital union, where the two become one, a unity. I do not mean to imply by this that at some point in the past three beings became one in the Hebrew God, but that rather it is possible in the Hebrew way of thinking for two or three beings to exist in a unity strong enough to be referenced as one. Look it up.
 
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I do not mean to imply by this that at some point in the past three beings became one in the Hebrew God, but that rather it is possible in the Hebrew way of thinking for two or three beings to exist in a unity strong enough to be referenced as one. Look it up.
Welcome to the forum Daniel.
 
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Some kind of Appeal to Majority again. You too are entitled to your beliefs. I showed how mine are logical. You reference a forum that disagrees or rather denies the logical argument, the explict Scriputural teaching.
Are you a member of a particular denomination? What denominations share your beliefs?
 
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Are you a member of a particular denomination? What denominations share your beliefs?
You keep talking about beliefs and make fallacious Appeals to Majority. I am talking about the fact that Jesus explicitly said he has a God, the Father, who is the only true God. That’s what is relevant here. Why is that not important to you?
 

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You keep talking about beliefs and make fallacious Appeals to Majority. I am talking about the fact that Jesus explicitly said he has a God, the Father, who is the only true God. That’s what is relevant here. Why is that not important to you?
I just wondered what denomination believes as you do. If you don't know it's not a problem.
 
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Well Wrangler I am writing to point out that the Hebrew word used to establish the oneness of God allows for a multiplicity of persons within the unity it asserts. Again, it is the same word used to describe the unity that emerges from a marriage of two distinct individuals.
 
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You keep talking about beliefs and make fallacious Appeals to Majority. I am talking about the fact that Jesus explicitly said he has a God, the Father, who is the only true God. That’s what is relevant here. Why is that not important to you?
Yeshua Ha Mashiach is YHVH friend.
End of dialogue, since there was never a dialogue to begin with.


Enjoy, irrefutable
 

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multiplicity of persons within the unity it asserts.
Again, correct Echad, Yachid



1165) Dh% (Dh% HhD) ac: Unite co: Unit ab: Unity: The pictograph h is a picture of a wall. The d is a picture of a door. Combined these mean "wall door". A wall separates the inside from the outside. Only through the door can one enter or exit uniting the inside with the outside.
A) Dh% (Dh% HhD) ac: ? co: Unite ab: ?: Two or more coming together as a unity. The sharp edge of a blade is the coming together of the two to one point.
AHLB
Simply love this
 

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Well Wrangler I am writing to point out that the Hebrew word used to establish the oneness of God allows for a multiplicity of persons within the unity it asserts. Again, it is the same word used to describe the unity that emerges from a marriage of two distinct individuals.
OK. With all due respect, I've found anyone who uses the terms 'godhead' or 'oneness' are mystics who assert illogical things, which is rejected out of hand.

Deference is given, not to possible confusion of oneness, but to the 20,000 x God is referred to in Scripture using singular pronouns. This refers to a Being, a Supreme Being, who is 1, singular, which stands alone, not a plurality, a unity of multiplicity of persons. YHWH says over and over again that he (singular) is the only God.

I recognize even today people still use the term "one" figuratively, to mean they are on the same page. "Your mother and I are one on this matter" means they are of the same opinion, not they are the same Being.


I (singular) am Yahweh, and there is no other.
There is no other Elohim besides me (singular).

Isaiah 45:5 NOG (Emphasis added)

I (singular) am El, and there is no other.
I (singular) am Elohim, and there’s no one like me (singular).

Isaih 46:9 (Emphasis added)

You will know that I (singular) am in Israel.
I (singular) am Yahweh your Elohim, and there is no other.

Joel 2:27 (Emphasis added)

 

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Yup, this describes Yeshua the Messiah, Ehyeh asher Ehyeh.
Echad=

1165) Dh% (Dh% HhD) ac: Unite co: Unit ab: Unity: The pictograph h is a picture of a wall. The d is a picture of a door. Combined these mean "wall door". A wall separates the inside from the outside. Only through the door can one enter or exit uniting the inside with the outside.
A) Dh% (Dh% HhD) ac: ? co: Unite ab: ?: Two or more coming together as a unity. The sharp edge of a blade is the coming together of the two to one point.

Well done, there's hope yet.