Michiah-Imla
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The answer I was anticipating is 1.
Jesus is 1 being. Human.
If Jesus is a non-human being before becoming a human being then he is 2 beings.
I miss understood your question.
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The answer I was anticipating is 1.
Jesus is 1 being. Human.
If Jesus is a non-human being before becoming a human being then he is 2 beings.
Yes. Because God was the origin,creator, of humans. He begat himself within Mary because God is the only one that saves.
''Besides me there is no Savior.''
Isaiah 43:11 Context: I myself am Yahweh; and besides me there is no savior.
The OT verse that refutes that which insists Jesus/Immanuel/ was not God.
You're too late. We already have men claiming to be women and vice versa, and if you disagree you are transphobic. And there are some born that are both sexes but it is rare.
People believe differently than you about Jesus. You should accept this. Just as I have to accept that there are people who believe as you do. We're not changing anyone's mind. The discussions are good and some good points are made but I don't think anyone is converting.
There are lots of optionsIF I were to convert, what would I convert to? Anyone care to hazard a guess?
I'm pretty sure that "man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of God".Nothing I care about. Does not seem to have anything to do with the Christian that is grown feeding off the meat and not the milk.
There are lots of options
He asked for a verse. Is there one verse that explains the way of salvation? Is there one verse that reveals the relationship of Christ to His Father? He asked for one verse. I have him 30. And by the way, I'm not defending Trinitarianism. I'm defending Christ's deity.My point stands. He asked you for a verse. You told him to go figure it out (that you narrowed the search to 1 chapter changes nothing.)
These are the games trinitarians must resort to. They cannot see the disconnect between any actual verse in Scripture to their dogma.
If Jesus is God, then seeing his face should have taken out his three apostles.....it didn’t. Why didn’t it?Yes they saw Jesus in his glory. If no one can see God's face and live how did Moses talk to him face to face?
But the new emojis are soooo good. They can lighten any heavy subjects.....Just ask @Nancy...she will confirm that I hate using emoji's.
Right, what does the Son of God mean if not that Jesus is of the same nature, God. We are all adopted sons of God, not begotten.It is mystifying to me that they frequently do not deny that Jesus is the Son of God but that he is not God. I can't understand that. It is beyond my ability to comprehend.
I don't have any suggestions. I have been several different denominations and I'm not a member of the Church I attend now. There are some things I disagree with there but my wife likes it and the preacher is good. On the forum it can be difficult when people are challenging things you have believed all your life. There are some theological issues where I just have to admit that I don't know. The other forum I was on was really hard on Christians even though it was a Christian forum. At least on this one most people agree that there is a God. That's a start.I’m not sure there are for me.
Trinitarianism? Roman Catholicism would be the likely landing spot.
Binitarianism? 1 down, 2 to go.
Unitarianism? I already have some things in common with the JWs.
Judaism? Lash me to the mast.
Messianic Judaism? Lash me to the mast with heavier cords.
Other? *crickets*
I agree ....and upon reading this today, I see Jesus addressed this.It is mystifying to me that they frequently do not deny that Jesus is the Son of God but that he is not God. I can't understand that. It is beyond my ability to comprehend.
You don’t think that Jews can translate their own language?"I will be" is so inaccurate to a God that has no beginning nor end. I AM is right on the money of knowing what He is.
I agree ....and upon reading this today, I see Jesus addressed this.
John 10:24-26
[24]Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
[25]Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
[26]But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
I don't have any suggestions. I have been several different denominations and I'm not a member of the Church I attend now. There are some things I disagree with there but my wife likes it and the preacher is good. On the forum it can be difficult when people are challenging things you have believed all your life. There are some theological issues where I just have to admit that I don't know. The other forum I was on was really hard on Christians even though it was a Christian forum. At least on this one most people agree that there is a God. That's a start.
This is what I constantly see.....you are putting a completely different spin on Jesus’ words there....I agree ....and upon reading this today, I see Jesus addressed this.
John 10:24-26
[24]Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
[25]Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
[26]But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
I don't have any suggestions. I have been several different denominations and I'm not a member of the Church I attend now. There are some things I disagree with there but my wife likes it and the preacher is good. On the forum it can be difficult when people are challenging things you have believed all your life. There are some theological issues where I just have to admit that I don't know. The other forum I was on was really hard on Christians even though it was a Christian forum. At least on this one most people agree that there is a God. That's a start.
Which version says I will be what I will be?You don’t think that Jews can translate their own language?
“I will Be What I Will Be” has a deeper meaning than simply telling the Jews that he existed.....they already knew that, but God was telling them what he would “BE” or what he would “BECOME” in carrying out his will and purpose in connection with his Messiah. It began with Abraham and his descendants who would produce this promised seed. It shows us how God circumvented the failures of the Israelites from preventing his promise from being fulfilled by them.
How could his name be inaccurate when it has nothing to do with the fact that he exists. His servants have always known he existed. What they didn’t always know was how he would fulfill his stated will.