John 8:24, 28, 58 - Jesus Christ IS YHWH

[mailmandan]

The Trinity is only not clear to those who have not had their spiritual understanding enlightened by God the Holy Spirit

1 Corinthians 2:11 - For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Prior to my conversion several years ago, I was very confused about the Trinity. I saw God the Father as Almighty and all powerful God, yet I saw Jesus Christ and junior or inferior to God the Father (yet still powerful) and I saw the Holy Spirit as a bunch of guardian angels. Talk about confused! It was not until after my conversion that I understood that God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are co-equal in essence/nature.

What's in it for these anti-Trinitarians to downgrade Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit to 'less than God' in essence/nature? There is God and there are angels and there are humans. What fourth category does Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit fall under according to anti-Trinitarians?

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Feel free to try and disprove any of my personal studies on the Holy Trinity

“Personal studies” are not needed to show plain biblical doctrine.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

“Personal studies” are not needed to show plain biblical doctrine.

Then what do you think your comments here are? They are your PERSONAL THOUGHTS in written words!

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

1 Corinthians 2:11 - For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Prior to my conversion several years ago, I was very confused about the Trinity. I saw God the Father as Almighty and all powerful God, yet I saw Jesus Christ and junior or inferior to God the Father (yet still powerful) and I saw the Holy Spirit as a bunch of guardian angels. Talk about confused! It was not until after my conversion that I understood that God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are co-equal in essence/nature.

What's in it for these anti-Trinitarians to downgrade Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit to 'less than God' in essence/nature? There is God and there are angels and there are humans. What fourth category does Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit fall under according to anti-Trinitarians?

You are right.

The Bible is very clear that for anyone to really understand that Jesus Christ is YHWH, is only possible by the Holy Spirit opening their eyes

New King James Version 1 Corinthians 12:3 Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Then what do you think your comments here are? They are your PERSONAL THOUGHTS in written words!

I show scripture.

I expose unbiblical ideas.

This is not “personal study”.

It’s short and swift. Not long and drawn out.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I show scripture.

I expose unbiblical ideas.

This is not “personal study”.

It’s short and swift. Not long and drawn out.

Yeah right, you cannot answer what I have written.

 

[Daydreamer]

Would someone with their eyes opened answer a question please. The Father states he is Christ’s God(Heb1:9) Jesus, once he had returned to Heaven four times in one verse referred to God as ‘’my God’’. (Rev3:12). Peter and Paul both refer to God as THE God of Christ. So, God, Christ, Peter and Paul all agree, God is THE God of Christ. So, if Christ is termed the one true God, who is the God of the one true omnipotent God? Scriptural support would be appreciated.

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

Would someone with their eyes opened answer a question please. The Father states he is Christ’s God(Heb1:9) Jesus, once he had returned to Heaven four times in one verse referred to God as ‘’my God’’. (Rev3:12). Peter and Paul both refer to God as THE God of Christ. So, God, Christ, Peter and Paul all agree, God is THE God of Christ. So, if Christ is termed the one true God, who is the God of the one true omnipotent God? Scriptural support would be appreciated.

Can you be more specific on what you want to know

 

[Daydreamer]

Can you be more specific on what you want to know

I think the post is very specific

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

I think the post is very specific

No it is not

 

[Daydreamer]

No it is not

Well Im sure others will understand it, so let's see if they answer the question put

 

[GRACE ambassador]

I think the post is very specific

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to the Board.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

Grace, Peace, And JOY!...

This is not “personal study”.

It’s short and swift. Not long and drawn out.

Absolutely Correct! THIS Is "long and drawn out" for prayerful And
Careful Review/personal study! Amen?:

500 Plain And Clear Scriptures The LORD Jesus Christ Is Almighty God!

 

[Daydreamer]

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome to the Board.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!

Grace, Peace, And JOY!...


Absolutely Correct! THIS Is "long and drawn out" for prayerful And
Careful Review/personal study! Amen?:

500 Plain And Clear Scriptures The LORD Jesus Christ Is Almighty God!

Thank you for your warm welcome

 

[Michiah-Imla]

500 Plain And Clear Scriptures The LORD Jesus Christ Is Almighty God!

More like:

“500 ambiguous and unclear Scriptures that are used by trinitarians.”

 

[Wrangler]

I will ask you again. WHO is Romans 10.13 referring to?

You will ask me again?! What about my questions that you aren’t answering?

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

You will ask me again?! What about my questions that you aren’t answering?

This passage is about Jesus Christ, and Paul clearly quotes from Joel 2.32, which is YHWH in the Hebrew, and says that this YHWH is JESUS CHRIST

totally destroys the heresy that Jesus Christ is not Almighty God

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

More like:

“500 ambiguous and unclear Scriptures that are used by trinitarians.”

Ask God the Holy Spirit to open your eyes to His Infallible Truth in the Bible, and then you will clearly see that there is the Trinity Taught in the Bible. Simple

He did so when I was born again in February 1982

 

[ByGraceThroughFaith]

No.

It’s not “crystal clear”.

Crystal clear would be a plain declaration “Jesus is God”, which appears no where in the Holy Bible.

The relationship between God and Christ is a mystery like Paul said:

“…the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ” (Colossians 2:2)

Furthermore the Holy Spirit isn’t even mentioned in this mystery.

When Paul says that God was made visible in the flesh in 1 Timothy 3.16, who does he refer to

 

[Michiah-Imla]

When Paul says that God was made visible in the flesh in 1 Timothy 3.16, who does he refer to

He was referring to God being IN Christ.

Not that God was Jesus.

“…God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them” (2 Corinthians 5:19)

 

[Michiah-Imla]

@ByGraceThroughFaith

God is in us. But we are not God.

“…God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.” (1 John 4:12)