"All things are lawful..."

[Behold]

If they only knew that our eternal security motivates us in christ to do the good works because of secure love for us by Jesus!! It would set them free to soar in good deeds! Love is always a greater motivator than fear.

Amen.

The Harlot who was "forgiven much", didnt run back to the whorehouse.
She crawled to the Lord's FEET, as her heart was so THANKFUL... that her Tears fell from JOY.
Joy Filled TEARS.. that is the effect of God's Grace when you have it as your FAITH.

So, it is even moreso for the born again, who are forgiven, always and for all time.
This does not cause us to want to betray the Giver of Eternal Forgiveness......this causes us to want to LOVE HIM MORE and Serve Him MORE and MORE.

The beautiful verse says....that the mercies of God are fresh, new, every morning, and that is so true regarding knowing that God has given us a Gift that is eternally ours, as it comes from His Lovng Heart through His eternal Son's Sacrifice.

People who live in doubt of of Jesus's finished work on the Cross, .who believe they can lose God's Salvation..... there is no Grace found there.
Grace is found when we know we believe that God who saved us, through Christ, "will Himself be faithful to complete our salvation, this Grace that God began in us".

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Amen.

The Harlot who was "forgiven much", didnt run back to the whorehouse.
She crawled to the Lord's FEET, as her heart was so THANKFUL... that her Tears fell from JOY.
Joy Filled TEARS.. that is the effect of God's Grace when you have it as your FAITH.

So, it is even moreso for the born again, who are forgiven, always and for all time.
This does not cause us to want to betray the Giver of Eternal Forgiveness......this causes us to want to LOVE HIM MORE and Serve Him MORE and MORE.

The beautiful verse says....that the mercies of God are fresh, new, every morning, and that is so true regarding knowing that God has given us a Gift that is eternally ours, as it comes from His Lovng Heart through His eternal Son's Sacrifice.

People who live in doubt of of Jesus's finished work on the Cross, .who believe they can lose God's Salvation..... there is no Grace found there.
Grace is found when we know we believe that God who saved us, through Christ, "will Himself be faithful to complete our salvation, this Grace that God began in us".

Being a former Catholic, I spent years living in dread that God would one day cease to forgive me. I had left the church and got involved in Satansim, debaughery, drugs and alcohol and crime. I was facing 10 years in prison and a contract on my life when I ask Jesus to save me! I wasn'r even sure He would want to save one like me! but He did. I di dnot change overnight! But slowly, surely and God patiently, drew my heart. I am not perfect but have gorwn so much from that first day on Oct. 12, 1973 when I prayed with my Aunt to recieve th eLord at my moms Kitchen table. I for one know the depth and riched of Gods forgiveness, patience and covenant love to us who cried unto HIm to deliver us!

 

[Wrangler]

I for one know the depth and riched of Gods forgiveness, patience and covenant love to us who cried unto HIm to deliver us!

I 2nd that motion.

 

[quietthinker]

Yes.

As a matter of fact, if you watch the heretics on this forum, you'll note that the right understanding of the Grace of God, runs contrary to their interest, as their interest is to deny it, and revise it.

and you don't think you have a blinkered view of the Grace of God?

 

[quietthinker]

Yes, you are concerned or you wouldn't have asked.

Jesus kept the commandments perfectly and they accused Him of being a fraud...did He argue with them or did He point them to the Scriptures and allow them to speak in His defense?

I'm well aware I have put you on the spot Phoneman, by asking the question I've asked, however in the context you have set up there is no reason for you not to give a straight answer......or is there?

Be fearless, be honest and we can continue meaningfully.

 

[VictoryinJesus]

Has he been ill lately? Did he mention this in any recent post?
He's not a young man...

not that I’ve seen. But I do remember his post for prayer a while back; for him at times and for his wife at times.

 

[farouk]

not that I’ve seen. But I do remember his post for prayer a while back; for him at times and for his wife at times.

@VictoryinJesus Sorry to think he and/or his wife might be ill...........

 

[Phoneman777]

No...but that is all (saying it nicely)--organic...not heavenly. It was and is never about what is best for us in this world. Which is not to say that it is not also good for us in this world--it certainly is--but just as Jesus said, "Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added to you."

Thus, if we are to do exactly that, and if the subject is food...we are to think of what is heavenly food "first"--not to zero in on earthly foods and what is worldly good or bad. But rather do both, not leaving out what is to be "first" having nothing to do with the world, as His kingdom is not of this world. Likewise, it the subject is the Temple, think not of that temple of stone, but of the body of Christ; and if the subject is marriage, think not of men and women, but of the Bride and the Bridegroom; and if birth, think not of mothers, but our Father in heaven. Think "first" of heavenly things, rather than worldly things...for these are the things He has written of.

I disagree. We're told to "do all to the glory of God" because there's so many ways of not doing all to glory, one of which is eating unclean foods which cause disease, misery, and death - things which are not glorious to God, amen?

 

[Phoneman777]

YOU do not understand what license means t3hen.

What is a License?
It grants the Licensed the ability to engage in activity for which the Unlicensed suffers punishment.
This is an incontrovertible truth.
The licensed fisherman cannot be fined as will the unlicensed fisherman.
The unlicensed driver cannot be fined as will the unlicensed driver.

What does OSAS claim about God's grace?
The sins a Christian man commits won't bring upon him the eternal damnation which the sins of the non-Christian bring upon himself.

In other words, OSAS grants the Christian a License allowing him to escape the eternal punishment for which the Unlicensed sinner will suffer.

 

[ScottA]

I disagree. We're told to "do all to the glory of God" because there's so many ways of not doing all to glory, one of which is eating unclean foods which cause disease, misery, and death - things which are not glorious to God, amen?

Yes, amen...just so we do not forget to seek Him "first."

 

[Phoneman777]

That hellbound person, was not born again.

There are no born again in Hell.

Why do I have to keep explaining to you that a person who's "escaped the pollutions of this world" symbolizes the Christian who is no longer "entangled therein"?

"Words mean things" is an axiom we can't childishly dismiss whenever the things words mean disprove the things we believe.

 

[Phoneman777]

Endure to the end of the Great Trib?
A born again believer, who has been Raptured?
C'mon.
Turn off the commentaries, they have ruined your faith and theology.

Stop following Jesuit cultish nonsense and use the brain God gave you to reason things out. The rapture of the saints is at the same time as the coming of our Lord:

"For the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout...and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we that are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds..."

And again, "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord and our gathering together...that the day (not two days separated by 7 years) of Christ is at hand."

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first..."

 

[Phoneman777]

Jesus said, "i no longer call you servant, i call you friend".

= The born again.

"Ye are My friends IF YOU DO WHATSOEVER I COMMAND YOU."

If your friends lied to you, cheated you, stole from you, or tried to harm you, would you consider them "friends"? To be honest, it seems the only enemies you have are those who try to tell you the truth.

 

[Phoneman777]

The Cross put an end to SIN.

Jesus died for our SIN.
How can your CULT not even have you understanding the purpose of the Cross?
You should leave that pit of demons behind.
Really.

2 Corinthians 5:19

Yes yes, we've all heard your false doctrine before:

"Salvation in me effects only one change:
it's God's opinion of my sin that remains".

Abraham Lincoln once said to a crowd, "If you call a dog's tail a leg, how many legs does he have?"
The crowd answered, "Five".
He replied, "Wrong, still only four...because calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."

And, calling practiced sin "not sin" doesn't make it so either. Sin only becomes "no more" when the power of Christ in true Christians empowers them to "go and sin no more".

 

[Behold]

Being a former Catholic, I spent years living in dread that God would one day cease to forgive me. I had left the church and got involved in Satansim, debaughery, drugs and alcohol and crime. I was facing 10 years in prison and a contract on my life when I ask Jesus to save me! I wasn'r even sure He would want to save one like me! but He did. I di dnot change overnight! But slowly, surely and God patiently, drew my heart. I am not perfect but have gorwn so much from that first day on Oct. 12, 1973 when I prayed with my Aunt to recieve th eLord at my moms Kitchen table. I for one know the depth and riched of Gods forgiveness, patience and covenant love to us who cried unto HIm to deliver us!

Thank you for sharing the Goodness of God.

If not for the precious Grace of God.......were would we all be now ???

 

[Phoneman777]

There is no sin found in Christ, and all the born again, are IN Christ.

You have this funny idea that God's Salvation is only as good as you are.
Guess again.

And you still keep attributing the promises of God to impenitent backsliders - did you not get the memo? "If any man DRAW BACK, My soul shall have no pleasure in him."

But, I'm sure you think pleasing God is optional, although:

it's an unavoidable consequence of faith (Hebrews 11:6 KJV)
it's what those who expect to receive eternal life do (Hebrews 11:5 KJV)
it's part of the "reasonable service" of commandment keeping (1 John 3:22 KJV)

Again, STOP attributing the promises of God to impenitent backsliders, lest you confirm others in the error by which you are seduced.

 

[Behold]

Why do I have to keep explaining to you that a person who's "escaped the pollutions of this world" .

Still out for a Troll?

So, Phoneman777....Have you confessed your sin lately?
See, When you were sinning, you were "in the pollutions of this world".. "caught"
Are you able to comprehend that fact about yourself?
See, the instant you chose to commit that last sin, you were caught in the "corruptions of the world".
That's why you do it.

And...Based on all your posts, its obvious and unfortunate that you were dragged into some bizarre theology at some point in your life, that often happens when a person does not find this verse as their foundation.

Hebrews 13:9

The thing that i find a bit amusing, is that you queerly connect me with Jesuit's.
Do you not know that everything connected to the "cult of Mary" believes you can lose your salvation?
That is a Catholic Doctrine.
Perhaps that's were you learned to believe it.

 

[Behold]

"For the Lord shall descend from heaven with a shout...and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we that are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds..."

."

Yes.

The Rapture.

Any day now.

 

[Behold]

"Ye are My friends IF YOU DO WHATSOEVER I COMMAND YOU."

Im a Friend of God, when i became born again.
He literally sent Himself as Jesus into this world to saves sinners.
And he found me a while back, and said..."if you will believe in me, i will give you eternal life and you shall never perish".
I did, and now i Do.

"God, who started Salvation is all the born again, will HIMSELF be FAITHFUL to complete IT"..

""JESUS< THE.... author and FINISHER of our FAITH"...

That is such Amazing Grace......the wonder of Eternal Security "in Christ", having become "The righteousness of God, in Christ".

 

[Phoneman777]

Yes, all that is our DISCIPLESHIP = "present your body a living sacrifice" and "take up your Cross of self denial".

However, Salvation is not our Discipleship.... Salvation is CHRST ON THE CROSS.
How can you not understand this?
A.) Your Cult.

No, friend, it's YOUR cult doctrine that tries to convince people they can periodically take a few days off from "presenting" themselves living sacrifices.

My doctrine is what the Bible says: "If any man abideth not in Me, he is like a branch that is withered and cast into the fire."

Of course, your cult thinks "abide" means something other than what it does: "to remain continuously"...because continuous company with Jesus doesn't leave much opportunity to SIN, right?