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I just found out the other day that the USA supported Pakistan in its genocide of up to three million Bengalis back in 1971.

This is in addition to all the other atrocities that the USA has been involved with in the past sixty odd years - Panama, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Chile.

How can anyone seriously regard the USA as anything other than a country dedicated to the wanton destruction of human life?
How about the US supported genocide of Palestinians for the Israeli's? How about the US suported genocide of white Boers in South Africa? How about the stirring up of black racism by the media in hype for a coming election of a man king?
 

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Sounds like this thread is turning into Pro-Islamic, Pro-Communist propaganda against the USA and its Christian nation allies.

At closer look at the terrorists and rebels involved in Panama, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Chile, etc., which caused nations like the U.S. and Britain to get involved will reveal how those nations have been helped by Communist states like Russia, i.e., enemies of the USA.
 

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And Israel is in the forefront backing all of these communist countries. Zionism is Communism, and the self proclaimed antichrists are doing everything possible to destroy all that is good in this world. Through the ownership of mass media and having people inside the banking systems of the world and the governments today. There is no reason why they aren't able to push there agenda, all while the rest of the world sits back all 'fat and happy' because even the poorest of people have access to most 'cool' things today.
 

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And Israel is in the forefront backing all of these communist countries. Zionism is Communism, and the self proclaimed antichrists are doing everything possible to destroy all that is good in this world. Through the ownership of mass media and having people inside the banking systems of the world and the governments today. There is no reason why they aren't able to push there agenda, all while the rest of the world sits back all 'fat and happy' because even the poorest of people have access to most 'cool' things today.

'Political Zionism' is allied with the Communists, but not the idea of 'Zion' and Israel itself. Just as God's Israel today is represented in two parts, one with the western Christian nations, and the other with the state of Israel in the middleast, in both... the majority of the peoples are not part of the Political Zionist movement by the 'tares'. The majority of the people in the world don't even have a clue as to their plans, since their meetings and gatherings are in secret, and their workings like shadows, hidden from plain sight.
 

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'Political Zionism' is allied with the Communists, but not the idea of 'Zion' and Israel itself. Just as God's Israel today is represented in two parts, one with the western Christian nations, and the other with the state of Israel in the middleast, in both... the majority of the peoples are not part of the Political Zionist movement by the 'tares'. The majority of the people in the world don't even have a clue as to their plans, since their meetings and gatherings are in secret, and their workings like shadows, hidden from plain sight.
But its not the majority of the people that are the problem, it is the elect few that seek the destruction of not only Christianity, but western culture and peoples worldwide!

I am not saying that every single soul, in Israel is evil, but there are the leaders there that absolutely HATE Christians. With a hate that could only be of the devil. These are the same people Christ spoke to in John 8:44. condemning them for their consistent acts of murder, deceit, and theft from the good, innocent people of the land.

Today, the Jews in Israel, those zionists in power, have effectively completed their agenda of creating moral decadence within Christian cultures. Don't believe me, go look for the Jewish Encyclopedia and read what THEY have to say about Christ and Christians. Anyone that teaches Christ is boiling in human excrement for being the bastard son of a prostitute as their religion, I have to say I don't support anything.

Furthermore, Israel was to be 'forgotten' and go by another name. Yahweh God manifested Himself as Yahshua Christ, and He told the Jews they were 'from beneath' as was their lower case 'f' father. The name of Yahweh be stricken from their lips, and He would divorce Himself from Israel/ Jacob. This is why He died in the flesh, he took upon Himself the sins of His 'bride' so that she could remarry in the end...

It was the Israeli government that has admitted to owning 90% of the porn industry in America, the Los Angeles Times said that Jews own all of Hollywood, take your blinders off and look at the world through your own eyes. If the Jews own and operate Hollywood, which has created more and more perverse films by the way to corrupt our people one generation at a time. They admit to owning the porn industry, and they think Christ is a joke. The TV commercials in Israel promote nothing but antichrist behavior in its people. Why do you think celebrities like Sarah Silverman speak so publicly about God in a disgusting way? Do they portray the image of what a 'jew' is supposed to be? She is a self proclaimed 'athiest Jew' now, how can she be athiest AND a jew if the jews 'worship the same god as the Christians'(which is a ridiculous saying BTW as Christ IS God).

Take a look at every effort to destroy Christianity, removal of the 10 commandments from near all public places, not teaching the sanctity of marriage resorting instead to go as low as teaching 'the pleasures of sex' to children as young as 10! Perpetuating drama between whites and blacks to near race riot capacity, when there are bad seeds everywhere. Yet they choose which side is to be portrayed as the bad guys. in the 80-90's it was the white man who was racist, often times for just defending his own culture, which is quite rich I might add. to now we see a rise in black racism, but much more violent, and actually racist, yet it is being stirred up by media corporations that are owned by Jews..

Of course most are going to disagree with me, and I may even be banned for anti semetism, but i am sick and tired of everyone defending the evils of the so called jew(who aren't really jews at all)
 

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I was talking to a brother about the young people of today and that we have always had low life through history but now the generation now are more into bagging Christianity full on without even a slightest hesitation to anyone around and not only that but full on hatred of anything christian at all, treating it all as just a joke.
They think God is some sort of flying spaghetti monster or something like the tooth fairy and they hate the Bible thinking it is just rubbish written by some backwards fool in a cave that has noting to do with today's highly sophisticated more evolved man of today.
And some even believe that they are more evolved than there parents. and they are university educated people saying this rubbish!
 

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But its not the majority of the people that are the problem, it is the elect few that seek the destruction of not only Christianity, but western culture and peoples worldwide!

I am not saying that every single soul, in Israel is evil, but there are the leaders there that absolutely HATE Christians. With a hate that could only be of the devil. These are the same people Christ spoke to in John 8:44. condemning them for their consistent acts of murder, deceit, and theft from the good, innocent people of the land.

It's easy to go that route, but we really cannot, since our Lord Jesus foretold us about the 'tares', and to leave them alone lest one of the good seed is confused as a tare. Thus one of the good seed sown can be deceived, and be following the works of the tares and only God will know at this present time (like the example of Paul before Christ converted him). That's why we can only discern the 'fruit' produced, and not the one producing it, not yet, not until Christ's return. It's not like I agree with the plan of the tares when I say this; it's about God already having foretold us about it in His Word so that those of His that listen to Him would not be tempted by them. The majority of Churches don't even understand our Lord's Message about the tares in the field, for they don't understand how the brute beast nature is upon some for this world in order to fulfill God's Salvation Plan, i.e., the negative side of God's Plan.

Since you do appear to understand it, do you think other brethren will begin to grasp it by the approach you're using? They won't, and I already know.
 

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You know, you're right. Sometimes I allow myself to get too frustrated by the lack of diligence in many people. I overlook the simple fact many times that there are tares among us, and just as you said, we should leave them be. They will be taken care of in the end.
 

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You know, you're right. Sometimes I allow myself to get too frustrated by the lack of diligence in many people. I overlook the simple fact many times that there are tares among us, and just as you said, we should leave them be. They will be taken care of in the end.

At the same time, your revealing the 'fruit' of the tares is not a bad thing, and that's what we should be doing. That's why when I cover some of this idea I try to reveal it with workings going on in the world today in relation to where God already foretold us about it, and then, try to offer something to help console our brethren and make them stronger in the Faith so they might be able to stand in the evil day.
 

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I can stand by that as well. We must help our kinsmen to discern the spirits of those meaning harm to us. But, many are simply 'believers', which, while all fine and dandy, we need the 'soldiers' to remain steadfast, and we must contend for that birthright, just as Jacob did
 

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On God's blue marble, Earth.
I couldn't care less if I lived in the U.S., Cuba, or the antartic, as long as I have the freedom to worship the Lord, a just goverment, and the Lord backing the nation, what is there to complain about? Unfortunatly, The U.S.A. has been moving both away from the Lord and down a general path of distruction. At the same time, I can't dwell on that, All I can do is pray for the U.S.A. and do what the Lord would have me to do, wether it's praying for a neighbor or selling my house to save a life.
 

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America has really nice people..some of the nicest people you will ever meet... however.. what seems to always get in the way is "Money"! Its true what they say that America is becoming more and more fascist. Capitalism is inherently fascist. It creates divisions amongst men. People need to start working with one another in order to break free from the constraints of the capitalist system. The more friends you have the more power and wealth you will possess. I think the British should be held responsible for genocide as well as some of the top administration here in America. Even though the British claim to have freed the slaves first. They still are preaching British Neo Colonialism, Which basically is a kin to a fascism dictatorship.
 

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America has really nice people..some of the nicest people you will ever meet... however.. what seems to always get in the way is "Money"! Its true what they say that America is becoming more and more fascist. Capitalism is inherently fascist. It creates divisions amongst men. People need to start working with one another in order to break free from the constraints of the capitalist system. The more friends you have the more power and wealth you will possess. I think the British should be held responsible for genocide as well as some of the top administration here in America. Even though the British claim to have freed the slaves first. They still are preaching British Neo Colonialism, Which basically is a kin to a fascism dictatorship.

I really don't think you understand what Capitalism is, nor what Fascism is. That understanding you have appears to have come from a Socialist mindset.

Capitalism was originally about Free-market enterprise, everyone given the opportunity for prosperity while allowing the people to balance supply and demand. The financial system in the U.S. hasn't been fully aligned to that concept since prior to the late 1800's. The American Civil War of 1860-1865 is when the financial system began to be de-stabilized and socialist policies began creeping in, and in 1913 the economic control went fully into the hands of a 'private' internationalist group of world bankers (called The Federal Reserve). The system the early Pilgrims first used was one of Socialism; everyone received the same no matter how hard they worked. Many starved that first year in the new world under that system. They then went to a freer system aligned with a free-market system; you kept what you produced for trade or selling, and if you didn't work you didn't eat (2 Thess.3:10).

Fascism began with the Italian dictator Mussolini, and then Hitler. Stalin's brand of Communism also followed its patterns. Fascism is about control by a dictatorial type political system, much like those established today in several South and Latin American nations, and also in eastern Europe ex-Soviet satellites, and in Islamic nations. The U.S. and western European nations are falling into a system more aligned with the old Roman rule prior to Constantine, which was a republic to include the Casears and a Senate system elected by the people.
 

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I really don't think you understand what Capitalism is, nor what Fascism is. That understanding you have appears to have come from a Socialist mindset.

Capitalism was originally about Free-market enterprise, everyone given the opportunity for prosperity while allowing the people to balance supply and demand. The financial system in the U.S. hasn't been fully aligned to that concept since prior to the late 1800's. The American Civil War of 1860-1865 is when the financial system began to be de-stabilized and socialist policies began creeping in, and in 1913 the economic control went fully into the hands of a 'private' internationalist group of world bankers (called The Federal Reserve). The system the early Pilgrims first used was one of Socialism; everyone received the same no matter how hard they worked. Many starved that first year in the new world under that system. They then went to a freer system aligned with a free-market system; you kept what you produced for trade or selling, and if you didn't work you didn't eat (2 Thess.3:10).

Fascism began with the Italian dictator Mussolini, and then Hitler. Stalin's brand of Communism also followed its patterns. Fascism is about control by a dictatorial type political system, much like those established today in several South and Latin American nations, and also in eastern Europe ex-Soviet satellites, and in Islamic nations. The U.S. and western European nations are falling into a system more aligned with the old Roman rule prior to Constantine, which was a republic to include the Casears and a Senate system elected by the people.

I have to disagree! Your vision of what Capitalism is, is warped and molded by a blinded flag. How can you say that now about Capitalism after 9/11 and the attack on the world trade centers, one of the biggest "Time Share" events in history. The people in this country are crying for Socialism!

You cant say that Capitalism doesn't breed fascism. Simply because there is an upper and lower class system in place. Sometimes even the upper class looks down on the lower class people. With Capitalism there will always be a lower class. Its just the way the Capitalist system works. The haves and the have nots. This creates hatred which then leads to fascism. People need to start working with one another in this country to make a change!

I don't think Fascism began with Mussolini..I personally think it all started with the invention of the clock. As for Stalin if you were to actually read history he fought against the Nazi's and Nazi collaborators, and defeated them, bombing the German capital into submission ending WWII.
 

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I have to disagree! Your vision of what Capitalism is, is warped and molded by a blinded flag. How can you say that now about Capitalism after 9/11 and the attack on the world trade centers, one of the biggest "Time Share" events in history. The people in this country are crying for Socialism!

You cant say that Capitalism doesn't breed fascism. Simply because there is an upper and lower class system in place. Sometimes even the upper class looks down on the lower class people. With Capitalism there will always be a lower class. Its just the way the Capitalist system works. The haves and the have nots. This creates hatred which then leads to fascism. People need to start working with one another in this country to make a change!

I don't think Fascism began with Mussolini..I personally think it all started with the invention of the clock. As for Stalin if you were to actually read history he fought against the Nazi's and Nazi collaborators, and defeated them, bombing the German capital into submission ending WWII.
With communism there is always only a low class.
One of the problem now with capitalism is it is a free for all, as the criminal element is at work leading the way. and this foolish lot are quite content with what they do because they are narrow minded short sighted fools that bring only more hardship and misery.

As for Stalin's lot they were good friends of Hitlers but Starlin position was to suppress his people to control them and Hitler's was the opposite. as Hitler's was more like a Jewish position.
Hitler thought his people could do things great.
Stalin thought his people were useless idiots.
Full on right wing capitalist could not give a toss about anyone but them self's.
I think that is the basest of their ideology.
 

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There are two evils at work in the human heart today,one is hypocrisy,most of capitalism's critics enjoy it's fruits in some way every day,if in no other way then getting on a computer to complain about it....apart from a return to villages,huts and washing our loin clothes on the rocks which none of them seem to want to do they have no answers....they wail and howl about evil corporations and then stand in line overnight for the latest this or that...indeed there is very little that corporate America has offered that Americans havn't eagerly devoured...these people are free to leave their comfortable homes and western lifestyles and head for the wilderness and a life close to nature....again not to many of them seem interested.

The other evil is the desire to control other people,we are not told by God that we have that right...people are free to live their lives as God commanded or not...God has put in place consequences for both obeying him and disobeying him..we in our infinite ignorance have decided that at least one set of consequences has to go and we see the results all around us,we can understand the simple concept of a speed limit sign and the consequences for ignoring it but can't understand the concept of getting more of what you reward and less of what you punish or simply allow Gods ordained consequences to have their effect.....starry eyed idealist and control freaks...what a Hellish combination.
 

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With communism there is always only a low class.
One of the problem now with capitalism is it is a free for all, as the criminal element is at work leading the way. and this foolish lot are quite content with what they do because they are narrow minded short sighted fools that bring only more hardship and misery.

As for Stalin's lot they were good friends of Hitlers but Starlin position was to suppress his people to control them and Hitler's was the opposite. as Hitler's was more like a Jewish position.
Hitler thought his people could do things great.
Stalin thought his people were useless idiots.
Full on right wing capitalist could not give a toss about anyone but them self's.
I think that is the basest of their ideology.

MR ROSENBERGER and Strat you must remember that in a sucessfull socialist country everyone is working together for the greater good. If America were to adobt this behavior it would work wonders for the community! Their wouldn't be any poverty in a socialist country! Everyone would share the wealth with their friends and neighbors.

Strat you are right in saying that Americans are turning into Isolationists that don't want to leave their homes. Also you're correct capitalism is evil when left in the wrong hands.
 

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I have to disagree! Your vision of what Capitalism is, is warped and molded by a blinded flag. How can you say that now about Capitalism after 9/11 and the attack on the world trade centers, one of the biggest "Time Share" events in history. The people in this country are crying for Socialism!

American people that know the real Truth definitely... are NOT... crying for Socialism. The reason today's economy is in the slump it's in is because of... Socialist type policies, causing the disappearance of a middle class structure. Socialism = a rich ruler class vs. a poor class, nothing in between. Like the old saying about Communist-Socialism: "An equal amount of poverty for all."


You cant say that Capitalism doesn't breed fascism. Simply because there is an upper and lower class system in place.

Free-market capitalism doesn't breed fascism, Socialism does, as shown even by your OWN words in bold. Socialism = two classes, a ruling class of the rich, and a poor class, the EXACT principle and design of Marxist Socialism.

Didn't you realize that's why Hitler and the Soviets used the word 'Socialist' in their party definitions? (Hitler's 'Nationalist SOCIALIST party', and the Soviet Communist's 'United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic'). Apparently, today's Socialist bent public school systems from the Socialist John Dewey's design forgot to teach people like you about that!


Sometimes even the upper class looks down on the lower class people. With Capitalism there will always be a lower class. Its just the way the Capitalist system works. The haves and the have nots. This creates hatred which then leads to fascism. People need to start working with one another in this country to make a change!

You're still talking about Socialism, not Free-Market Capitalism. Under a Free Enterprise system, the many Socialist-Marxist type policies in place in today's system would not be allowed!!! Government would not be allowed to own and operate businesses, which is essentially what the rich Socialists have been getting the government to do, even bail them out by stealing from the people using their powers to sway their political coherts in power in government! That's exactly... how a Socialist system works. Under Marxist-Socialism, the government has power and control WITH the corporations, both in bed together serving each other! Under a free-market system the government has only certain financial powers per the U.S. Constitution, and all other powers belong in the hands of the states and its peoples!


I don't think Fascism began with Mussolini..I personally think it all started with the invention of the clock.

Socialist public school systems do a great job today teaching history I see. Mussolini's politics were the idol of Hitler. You probably didn't know they were allies either.


As for Stalin if you were to actually read history he fought against the Nazi's and Nazi collaborators, and defeated them, bombing the German capital into submission ending WWII.

If you really knew your history, you'd have realized that Hitler and Stalin were allies together just prior to Hitler's invasion of Poland that kicked off WWII. They even signed a pact together at the beginning. Also, the Soviets were not the ones doing all the Allied bombing of Hitler's Germany. It was the U.S. and Britain that did most of the bombing. The Soviets didn't even have much of an air force at that time.

A little Lesson on doing Research:

Primary Source - first person source, someone who actually saw and lived through events to tell about it.

Secondary Source - someone who researches info from a Primary source, and then gives their own opinion about it.

Tertiary Source - third removed from a Primary source; opinion of an opinion from a Secondary source.

Most history books written today are so far removed from the Tertiary source level that it's become a whole other 'history'. This operation is called 'Revisionist History' when the far-removed source material is so steeped in opinion built upon opinions that it departs from the facts of a Primary Source that actually experienced the events.

So go ahead, keep buying those Time-Life history book club rip-offs written by some super-professor at Harvard, Princeton, etc. Even the History Channel is guilty of doing some of the history rip-off Revisionist stuff, just for entertainment. Oh yeah, to some people history is supposed to be like fictional entertainment!!! Welcome to George Orwell's 'Newspeak'.
 

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MR ROSENBERGER and Strat you must remember that in a sucessfull socialist country everyone is working together for the greater good. If America were to adobt this behavior it would work wonders for the community! Their wouldn't be any poverty in a socialist country! Everyone would share the wealth with their friends and neighbors.

Strat you are right in saying that Americans are turning into Isolationists that don't want to leave their homes. Also you're correct capitalism is evil when left in the wrong hands.
Hitlers lot was doing just that, working together for the greater good.
We could get rid of poverty and starvation easy. just kill them all. end of problem.
 

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One of these days you all are going to start understanding that the ONLY just type of ruling system that can exist is a Monarchy type government, the very one that Christ Jesus is going to bring when He returns. All else is just rubbish of men's politics in seeing who can be the most selfish.

Hitler and the Marxists BOTH used the principles of Socialism for a BIG reason. It was an easy way to get POWER over the people and put their thumb upon the peoples! And what did it produce? With Nazi Germany it brought desctruction upon themselves. With the Soviet system it brought death, destruction, and starvation on major scales, constant starvation and lack of even the basic necessities!

Moreover, Socialism does not... work economically. When the fruit of people's labors is stolen from them, which is what Socialism does, it removes the incentive to work. Everyone gets lazy because why work harder if it going to be taken from you and given to those who refuse to work? This was even PROVEN with the early Pilgrims when they first came to the new world.

What is truly a show of ignorance, and of a puppet mentality, are those who latch their hitch to the Socialist type leaders which have NO INTENTION of letting 'you' rule with them once YOU have helped them to come to power! Oh how they love it when you get so duped as to heed their plans and help them promote it for takeover!