Paul claimed 3 times that Revelation 20:4 was a current reality.

[GEN2REV]

He is currently in a temporary spiritual prison (the abyss) under spiritual restraints. He will be released prior to the end. He will then receive his eternal imprisonment when Jesus comes (the Lake of Fire).

Yeah, I disagree with that part.

I believe he is restrained from gathering the nations to war against God and His saints just yet, but I believe he is actually free NOW in the world.

Just look at the state of the world. Human trafficking, unspeakable acts upon children worldwide, all Govts corrupt as can be, drugs are out of control, suicide at an all time high, all food and water poisoned and impure with all manner of toxins, weather more outta whack than ever before everywhere, Religions lie, cheat and steal, Medical institutions lie, cheat and steal, Charities lie, cheat and steal, The most so-called holy individual upon the earth (the Pope) is the leader of the most corrupt church in all the world - with power worldwide, etc., etc.

I don't buy that the devil is restrained 100% at all. This world looks more like his playground every single day.

 

[WPM]

Yeah, I disagree with that part.

I believe he is restrained from gathering the nations to war against God and His saints just yet, but I believe he is actually free NOW in the world.

Just look at the state of the world. Human trafficking, unspeakable acts upon children, all Govts corrupt as can be, all food and water poisoned and impure with all manner of toxins, weather more outta whack than ever before everywhere, Religions lie, cheat and steal, Medical institutions lie, cheat and steal, Charities lie, cheat and steal, The most so-called holy individual upon the earth (the Pope) is the leader of the most corrupt church in all the world - with power worldwide, etc., etc.

I don't buy that the devil is restrained 100% at all. This world looks more like his playground every single day.

I am not disagreeing. The devil is on a chain in a spiritual prison.

It is just like a gang leader in prison. He has power and influence in his own world. He has the ability to kill, steal, destroy, rape and embezzle in prison. But the governor and officers control his life and limit his movement and freedom. He cannot do his own thing. Regardless of what that prisoner thinks, he has no real power or authority. He is actually under authority. His life is regulated by rules and regulations that he does not agree with or appreciate. That does not diminish his restrained status.

It is the same with a controlling mother-in-law. What if she moved into your house with you and she was constant and ongoing trouble? She could challenge your authority. She could try to cause division and strife. She could shout and yell. She could manipulate and intimate. She can make your life miserable. That does not negate your authority over her. Regardless of what she thinks, your mother in law has no power or authority over you or your family. If you were to set rules, you have the authority to implement and to even cast her out of the house if need-be. It frankly doesn't matter what she thinks.

 

[GEN2REV]

I am not disagreeing. The devil is on a chain in a spiritual prison.

It is just like a gang leader in prison. He has power and influence in his own world. He has the ability to kill, steal, destroy, rape and embezzle in prison. But the governor and officers control his life and limit his movement and freedom. He cannot do his own thing. Regardless of what that prisoner thinks, he has no real power or authority. He is actually under authority. His life is regulated by rules and regulations that he does not agree with or appreciate. That does not diminish his restrained status.

It is the same with a controlling mother-in-law. What if she moved into your house with you and she was constant and ongoing trouble? She could challenge your authority. She could try to cause division and strife. She could shout and yell. She could manipulate and intimate. She can make your life miserable. That does not negate your authority over her. Regardless of what she thinks, your mother in law has no power or authority over you or your family. If you were to set rules, you have the authority to implement and to even cast her out of the house if need-be. It frankly doesn't matter what she thinks.

That makes sense.

I think it's possible that the Spirit that lives within us will be ultimately extinguished from the earth in the last days, when all True Believers have died, and that will be the time for him to be released for a time entirely and run amok.

It's a theory based on Scripture, but I've heard nobody of any importance speak of it.

 

[Truth7t7]

Yeah, I disagree with that part.

I believe he is restrained from gathering the nations to war against God and His saints just yet, but I believe he is actually free NOW in the world.

Just look at the state of the world. Human trafficking, unspeakable acts upon children worldwide, all Govts corrupt as can be, drugs are out of control, suicide at an all time high, all food and water poisoned and impure with all manner of toxins, weather more outta whack than ever before everywhere, Religions lie, cheat and steal, Medical institutions lie, cheat and steal, Charities lie, cheat and steal, The most so-called holy individual upon the earth (the Pope) is the leader of the most corrupt church in all the world - with power worldwide, etc., etc.

I don't buy that the devil is restrained 100% at all. This world looks more like his playground every single day.

I Agree!

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

 

[Truth7t7]

It is the same with a controlling mother-in-law. What if she moved into your house with you and she was constant and ongoing trouble? She could challenge your authority. She could try to cause division and strife. She could shout and yell. She could manipulate and intimate. She can make your life miserable. That does not negate your authority over her. Regardless of what she thinks, your mother in law has no power or authority over you or your family. If you were to set rules, you have the authority to implement and to even cast her out of the house if need-be. It frankly doesn't matter what she thinks.

Well, did you kick your mother-in-law out?

 

[Davy]

I Agree!

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Nah, you've got your timing all wrong which is not even trying to stay with what is actually written in the above 1 - 6 verses!

The resurrection happens on the day of Jesus' future coming, at the end of this Present world. Then... the "thousand years" timing begins, and Satan is locked in his pit prison only for that time starting at Christ's future coming. This is even pointed to in the Book of Isaiah...

Isa 24:20-23
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
KJV

That "after many days shall they be visited" represents the "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus and His elect of Revelation 20, while Satan is locked in his pit prison. This is why Revelation 20 also shows the casting into the "lake of fire" does not happen until that "thousand years" period is over.

 

[Truth7t7]

Nah, you've got your timing all wrong which is not even trying to stay with what is actually written in the above 1 - 6 verses!

The resurrection happens on the day of Jesus' future coming, at the end of this Present world. Then... the "thousand years" timing begins, and Satan is locked in his pit prison only for that time starting at Christ's future coming. This is even pointed to in the Book of Isaiah...

Isa 24:20-23
20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
KJV

That "after many days shall they be visited" represents the "thousand years" reign by Christ Jesus and His elect of Revelation 20, while Satan is locked in his pit prison. This is why Revelation 20 also shows the casting into the "lake of fire" does not happen until that "thousand years" period is over.

The First Resurrection, On The Last Day Explained?​

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life
2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[Davy]

The First Resurrection, On The Last Day Explained?​

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life
2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Still cannot stay with the Revelation 20:1-6 Scripture as written I see.

 

[Marty fox]

In Christ.

You cannot be two places at the same time.

"Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved; ) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:"

We are spiritually quickened with Christ. We are seated together in Christ. When we shed this temporal body, the soul enters a permanent incorruptible physical body. Then we are seated with Christ.

You cannot be in this body and that body at the same time.

"For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."

So if were in Christ then we are reigning with Christ

 

[GEN2REV]

Still cannot stay with the Revelation 20:1-6 Scripture as written I see.

You can't confine the proof of a doctrine to a single, solitary, passage of Scripture.

It must align with the rest of the book.

There are too many eschatological passages in the Bible that contradict those 6 verses that you want to rewrite the Bible. That's just not how it works.

ETA: I should restate that. *There are too many passages that contradict the belief/teaching that so many use those 6 verses as the foundation for.* I believe the verses, in themselves, have a significant purpose - just that they do not state the case for Pre-Mil.

 

[Marty fox]

Revelation 20:4-6 go together about the same subject of the resurrection timing, and I'm pretty sure you well know it. If you try to push, "This is the first resurrection" being about those "dead" instead of those of verse 4, then your whole system of English grammar drops to the floor. Even verse 6 is pointing back to those of verse 4 being that 'first resurrection'.


Rev 20:6
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

No they don’t the verse proves it

Revelation 20:5
. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection

They don’t come to life until after the thousand years it plane simple gramma.

 

[Marty fox]

You can't confine the proof of a doctrine to a single, solitary, passage of Scripture.

It must align with the rest of the book.

There are too many eschatological passages in the Bible that contradict those 6 verses that you want to rewrite the Bible. That's just not how it works.

ETA: I should restate that. *There are too many passages that contradict the belief/teaching that so many use those 6 verses as the foundation for.* I believe the verses, in themselves, have a significant purpose - just that they do not state the case for Pre-Mil.

Yes this is a rule that I use

The whole of scripture is greater than the sum of its individual passages. You can not comprehend the bible as a whole without comprehending its individual passages and you cannot comprehend its individual passages without comprehending the bible as a whole. The individual passages can never be interpreted in a way as to conflict the whole of scripture

The above method is the best way to interpret scripture especially prophecy

 

[Marty fox]

Matt 11:12-13
12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.
KJV

I don't think you actually know what Christ's subject there is about with those 'violent' ones who TRY to take the Kingdom of Heaven by force.

Did you not know that some of the Occult Initiate Fraternities teach their members to do astral projection, to leave their flesh bodies and appear on an astral plane to receive higher occult teachings from what they call the Great White Brotherhood? In other words, the occultist deal with 'familiar spirits'.

And it is those... who TRY to take Heaven by force, thinking to go around God's backdoor. But He is not going to allow that, but deceives their strategy.

That is what eastern religions teach also, which is their reason for doing their 'brand' of meditation.

Now if you don't believe that kind of stuff is going on today, then it shows your mind is stuck in your fleshy reasoning, and you really don't understand that there's another dimension of existence involving Spirit that we cannot see today.

Well of course there is a demonic war happening but the context of that verse was people it even says so. Jesus was talking about the fact that John was in jail for preaching Jesus was talking about that generation.

 

[Zao is life]

When I read Rev. 20:4 it means, IMO, that those reigning are the martyrs and believers who have died and gone to heaven. (The first resurrection) Yes?

Of course I don't know, but I imagine that "falling asleep in Christ" (dying in faith in Christ) is like falling asleep and "waking up" in a beautiful and very pleasant dream where we sense Christ's love all around us, and are fully aware of His presence with us, so that even if we did realize we're in a dream, we'd want to remain in that dream forever and ever. But eventually we do awake in the morning, and we look at our hands and go.. "What's this?" - and we realize we've woken up in our new resurrected, spiritual bodies.

"Time" means nothing in Christ. It only means something here on earth.

That's how I imagine it. knowing that if we are in Christ now, and He is in us now, and He is in heaven, then as Paul said, deeming it better, "It's better for me to be away from home in the body and to be at home with the Lord".

Either way we're always at home with the Lord, and when we awake "in the morning" from our very pleasant and peaceful and wonderful dreams, we'll still be at home with the Lord - in our new bodies.

 

[Davy]

No they don’t the verse proves it

Revelation 20:5
. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection

They don’t come to life until after the thousand years it plane simple gramma.

The statement, "This is the first resurrection" is NOT about those "dead" that don't come to life again until after... the thousand years.

"This is the first resurrection" is about those of VERSE 4 and 6.

Rev 20:5-6
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

The "first resurrection" ONLY reign with Christ during the "thousand years", not those "dead" that don't live again until AFTER the "thousand years". It really doesn't take that much common sense to understand that. One simply need to listen to God's Word and STOP listening to the devil's doctrines created by crept in unawares into Christ's Church.

 

[Davy]

Well of course there is a demonic war happening but the context of that verse was people it even says so. Jesus was talking about the fact that John was in jail for preaching Jesus was talking about that generation.

The context is about those who try to 'force'... their way into the kingdom of Heaven.

 

[Marty fox]

The statement, "This is the first resurrection" is NOT about those "dead" that don't come to life again until after... the thousand years.

"This is the first resurrection" is about those of VERSE 4 and 6.

Rev 20:5-6
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

The "first resurrection" ONLY reign with Christ during the "thousand years", not those "dead" that don't live again until AFTER the "thousand years". It really doesn't take that much common sense to understand that. One simply need to listen to God's Word and STOP listening to the devil's doctrines created by crept in unawares into Christ's Church.

Of course the rest of the dead don't rise until after the thousand years thats what I was saying

 

[Davy]

Of course the rest of the dead don't rise until after the thousand years thats what I was saying

That's just yet another... POP NOTION from men's doctrines, from not paying attention to the Scriptures.

John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
KJV

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

So, our 'born-again' experience is the first resurrection? What about our 'go to heaven' experience? Is that a part of the first resurrection?

I believe Jesus's bodily resurrection is the first resurrection itself (Acts 26:23, 1 Cor 15:20;23, Col 1:18, Rev 1:5).

But, I believe our born again experience is how we spiritually have part in His resurrection (the first resurrection). I would say in terms of what John was writing about in Revelation 20, our souls going to heaven when we die is part of having part in the first resurrection. But, of course, it's only those who are born again whose souls go to heaven when they die. Once someone's soul goes to heaven they then live and reign with Christ there. That is what I believe Revelation 20 is talking about.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

That's just yet another... POP NOTION from men's doctrines, from not paying attention to the Scriptures.

John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
KJV

Do you agree with Jesus that all of the dead will be raised when the hour He said is coming arrives?