Our hope for the Future

[ewq1938]

Did it say that I had quoted a post of yours? If so, which post?

He can direct something to you if he wants to.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Apparently Bro. MacArthur forgot about the Gentiles who were always part of Israel.

Or was he just trying his best to ignore them?

Genesis 17:12
And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

Exodus 12:48
And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Leviticus 19:34
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 24:22
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the Lord your God.

He mentioned them, U onitted that section - too long. The end. Bye

 

[covenantee]

He mentioned them, U onitted that section - too long. The end. Bye

There's no mention of Gentiles in your quote of him.

 

[covenantee]

He can direct something to you if he wants to.

He didn't want to.

 

[Keraz]

There is only one 42 month/1260 day GT in Rev. It is the shortened version of the original 7 year trib from Daniel. There is no such thing as a final half of 7 years as there isn't a first half. It's just 42 months as given in Rev 13.

That is because the first half of the final 7 years, is peaceful.
It isn't until the Anti-Christ desecrates the Temple, when Satan is thrown ot of heaven, Revelation 12:13-14

Your theory is a simple rejection of Prophecy as Written.

 

[ewq1938]

That is because the first half of the final 7 years, is peaceful.

A peaceful tribulation? Isn't that hot ice cream? Or, cold (insert something hot here)

Your theory is a simple rejection of Prophecy as Written.

You are the one rejecting what Christ said about the trib being shortened. It literally cannot remain 7 years long, and Rev 13 agrees with it being much shorter.

 

[Keraz]

A peaceful tribulation? Isn't that hot ice cream? Or, cold (insert something hot here)



You are the one rejecting what Christ said about the trib being shortened. It literally cannot remain 7 years long, and Rev 13 agrees with it being much shorter.

Who are you? I have to wonder, with comments like that.
The Great Tribulation will last for 42 months and culminate with the Seventh Bowl, that is: Armageddon and the Return of Jesus.

Just to be quite clear for the 4th grade dropouts here: The final 7 years of this Church age will be divided into 2 halves, as Daniel 9:27 clearly says. The first half will be peaceful, as the peace treaty holds. The second half will fulfil the Seven Trumpets and Seven Bowls. 3 1/2 years is the right time for them all to happen as prophesied.
I do not see any shortening of the times in this scenario. I view Matthew 24:22, as pertaining to the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster.

 

[Trekson]

Did it say that I had quoted a post of yours? If so, which post?

I don't know, there are quite a few but I figure if it comes up in my notifications than it must be about something I commented on. That might be different if I began a post. Most of the others that show up in notifications are responding to something I said but there have been a couple others that weren't.

 

[Trekson]

A peaceful tribulation? Isn't that hot ice cream? Or, cold (insert something hot here)



You are the one rejecting what Christ said about the trib being shortened. It literally cannot remain 7 years long, and Rev 13 agrees with it being much shorter.

There's no such thing as a seven yr. trib period prophesied in the bible.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

There's no mention of Gentiles in your quote of him.

Newsflash: The Vine isn't Israel! Jesus is the Vine that everyone is grafted into.
We are all "in Christ". Where in the Bible does it say we are "in Israel"? Hey, you can buy a ticket and fly there sometime if you'd like. Then you can meet a whole bunch of the remnant Israelites that will soon see the LIGHT - literally.

 

[covenantee]

Newsflash: The Vine isn't Israel! Jesus is the Vine that everyone is grafted into.
We are all "in Christ". Where in the Bible does it say we are "in Israel"? Hey, you can buy a ticket and fly there sometime if you'd like. Then you can meet a whole bunch of the remnant Israelites that will soon see the LIGHT - literally.

The faithful obedient remnant Israelites in Christ under His New Covenant are comprised of both Jews and Gentiles, just as the faithful obedient remnant Israelites in God under His Old Covenant were also comprised of both Jews and Gentiles.

Genesis 17:12
And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

Exodus 12:48
And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Leviticus 19:34
But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.

Leviticus 24:22
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the Lord your God.

 

[covenantee]

I don't know, there are quite a few but I figure if it comes up in my notifications than it must be about something I commented on. That might be different if I began a post. Most of the others that show up in notifications are responding to something I said but there have been a couple others that weren't.

Notifications, i.e. alerts, can be received for posts which a person has not originated, if said person is active in the thread.

In post 229 you erroneously believed that a post of mine had been directed to you, when in fact it had been directed to "Truth7t7".

 

[Truth7t7]

To All Amillennialists,

Why don't you all make a promise to God, that you will not have anything to do with the Millennial Kingdom _ on Earth _ literally ruled by Jesus _ after the Great Tribulation, which to you is an absurdity!
Put a check next to your name as an acknowledgement and covenant with God of your exclusion. Amen

WPM
SPIRITUAL Israelite
rwb
Truth7t7
jeffweeder
MatthewG
Covenantee
CadyandZoe
Peterlag
Marty fox
Christian Gedge
GEN2REV
quietthinker
Phoneman777

Jesus Christ warned me about your false teaching (Big Check, Truth7t7)

Many claim Jesus will literally return and rule "On This Earth" In A Millennium this being false in deception

Jesus warned his followers against this teaching, Jesus wont be found anywhere upon this earth as many claim

The Antichrist will be in Jerusalem, claiming to be Messiah Returned, "Beware"!

"Believe It Not" "Go Not Forth"

Matthew 24:23-27KJV
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Revelation 13:13-14KJV
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

Revelation 19:20KJV
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

 

[Trekson]

Notifications, i.e. alerts, can be received for posts which a person has not originated, if said person is active in the thread.

In post 229 you erroneously believed that a post of mine had been directed to you, when in fact it had been directed to "Truth7t7".

Sorry, my bad I guess.

 

[covenantee]

Sorry, my bad I guess.

No prob.

 

[covenantee]

To All Amillennialists,

Why don't you all make a promise to God, that you will not have anything to do with the Millennial Kingdom _ on Earth _ literally ruled by Jesus _ after the Great Tribulation, which to you is an absurdity!
Put a check next to your name as an acknowledgement and covenant with God of your exclusion. Amen

WPM
SPIRITUAL Israelite
rwb
Truth7t7
jeffweeder
MatthewG
Covenantee
CadyandZoe
Peterlag
Marty fox
Christian Gedge
GEN2REV
quietthinker
Phoneman777

Why would anyone acknowledge a figment of dispen/premil hallucination?

 

[Timtofly]

A mockery of dispen/premil's Scripture.

Still mocking Scripture as pointed out.

 

[Timtofly]

If or when you can present Scripture to support your opinions, then we will have something to discuss. This is after all a Bible forum for discussing our understanding of Scripture. Not interested in discussing unbiblical opinions, and that is what we have here until you prove what you assume from the Word of God.

I agree that Amil theology is unbiblical, but posters still post Amil theology despite that fact.

We are discussing the same verses, not the reader's digest. You can get over your meaningless point. You put verses in your post, and that is what is discussed. If the topic changes, new verses are discussed. When I do use Scripture all I get is that Scripture is too confusing and chaotic for Amils to handle.

 

[Timtofly]

The prophets repeatedly define the Day of the Lord coming with utter destruction of this earth in the day of His fierce anger. Where in any of the writings of the Old Testament prophets can you prove the Day of the Lord that shall come will be when Messiah reigns on this earth for one thousand years?

If there is total destruction, how can you claim the Day of the Lord is between the first coming and the Second Coming? No one recalls all of humanity wiped out, the heavens dissolved and the works of earth burned up in 30AD.

The Millennium is not one continuous long destruction event. The Millennium is 1,000 years of the earth being restored, after the destruction of the Second Coming. In the OT, no prophet was looking for 1992 years called the fulness of the Gentiles, ie the church age. They were looking for the promise given in Daniel 9:24. A promise on hold until the Second Coming. Obviously, Jesus has not reigned from Jerusalem over a new heaven and earth since 30AD.

It is Amil who want the Day of the Lord to start in 30AD. They are the ones declaring Revelation 20 started in 30AD. Pre-mill call Revelation 20 the Day of the Lord, because John called it a thousand year reign. Peter was the one who associated a thousand years with a Day with the Lord and the coming Day of the Lord. Amil render Peter's point useless, and "besides" the topic stated in 2 Peter 3. Peter was talking about time and the Day of the Lord. Peter was talking about God's longsuffering with the sinful condition of mankind. Peter was not denying a future millennium on earth. Peter was pointing out that the future Day of the Lord begins with destruction, not a long drawn out period of chaos. The Day of the Lord is still prior to the end of current creation because it involves this creation as restored, not a totally different creation coming.

The Day of the Lord is not a new creation. It is the final condition of current creation.

"Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness."

Amil claim this condition started at the Cross, then claim pre-mill are wrong when they say it starts at the Second Coming.

Peter is waiting for this:

"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy."

Everlasting righteousness starts at the Second Coming. That is the Day of the Lord.

Heaven and Paradise certainly don't need everlasting righteousness. They were never corrupted by sin.

 

[covenantee]

Still mocking Scripture as pointed out.

Mocking dispen/premil's scripture.