JW Non-Millennialism: Jesus comes again 'in the flesh'

[WPM]

One warning only. Next time I report you for inflammatory accusations against my character.

You amils certainly share the same characteristic in getting personal with others.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Who do you think you are? Are you the village bully? Do you think you can just intimate anyone who disagrees with you? That is utter folly and pride! This is not Christian behavior.

All because posters challenge your lies that the JWs are Amils. How about apologizing and repenting of these lies that you promote? Even Premils have tried to correct your error on this thread, without success.

 

[robert derrick]

Revelation 17:12 tells us: “the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”

Re the “one hour” that the beast reigns with the “ten kings” in Revelation 17:12, is that sixty minutes?

One thousand years in Rev 20, repeated as 'a' thousand years, and 'the' thousand years, 6 times, means one thousand years to the day.

Only those who don't take God's words seriously, reject it.

Perhaps He won't let you be there with Him.

So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

 

[shilohsfoal]

2 Peter 3:8 does not in any way indicate a future earthly millennium kingdom anywhere in this reading. In fact, Peter is simply reminding the end-time scoffers that time is absolutely nothing to the king of glory; He ultimately sits outside of time in the realm of eternity. Time is but a blink to His infinite mind and to the eternal state. God is “from everlasting” (Habakkuk 1:12, Psalm 93:2). This isn't rocket science. It is simple, accurate and contextual.

Actually Peter is talking about when the Lord comes and what happens when he does.
The when part is what you don't get.

You can't comprehend a day to the Lord.

 

[WPM]

There is no site restriction on amount of threads posted on a given subject.

In the meantime, trolling is. People in your sect are becoming increasingly angered and insulting by the disagreements of others.

Stick to the points made, or move on. One warning only, then we'll let the moderators decide.

Actually Peter is talking about when the Lord comes and what happens when he does.
The when part is what you don't get.

You can't comprehend a day to the Lord.

Again, you cannot address the counter arguments because they expose your thesis. This is a pattern with you. Avoidance is a popular Premil MO.

 

[WPM]

One thousand years in Rev 20, repeated as 'a' thousand years, and 'the' thousand years, 6 times, means one thousand years to the day.

Only those who don't take God's words seriously, reject it.

Perhaps He won't let you be there with Him.

So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

You duck around the many example of the figurative usage of "a thousand" in Scripture. You have to. You insist that the most figurative book in the Bible must be interpreted hyper literal.

Where else in Scripture describes a literal future thousand years? Nowhere. It is a Premil invention that enjoys zero corroboration. It is a private interpretation. Please note, Revelation does not say “one thousand” as you are suggesting but “a thousand.” The term “one thousand” is only found once in Scripture in Isaiah 30:17. The phrase “a thousand” is repeatedly presented in Scripture as a symbolic phrase to describe a large undefined number. 1, 10, 100, 1,000, 10,000 are even number that are regularly employed by the Holy Spirit to denote a complete figure, number or period.

The term “a thousand” is used continually throughout the Word as a generalization or a round figure for “a lot” or “a long time.” It should therefore not be considered as a wooden figure. Scripture repeatedly uses round figures to describe a general idea or a spiritual concept rather than a literal wooden number. Numbers like one, ten, a hundred, a thousand and ten thousand are a case in point. They are constantly employed to present a complete or a non-literalistic indeterminate figure, number or period.

Please remember there is no “one thousand years” (1,000 yrs) mentioned in this passage but rather the symbolic phrase "a thousand years." The term “one thousand” is only found once in Scripture in Isaiah 30:17. The phrase "a thousand" is repeatedly presented in Scripture as a symbolic phrase to describe a large undefined number.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Again, you cannot address the counter arguments because they expose your thesis. This is a pattern with you. Avoidance is a popular Premil MO.

You can't blame everyone else because you can't understand scripture.

 

[shilohsfoal]

Some people just don't get it.


Revelation 20

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[robert derrick]

Your argument here is based on lies. The JWs are Premil not Amils, as you allege.

Are you incapable of understanding what I write?

They are not believers in Millennialism of Scripture.

They teach their own kind of millennium, even as their own kind of gospel, corrupting the gospel of Jesus Christ.

As well as His Millennium.

Premils have even tried to correct you. Yet, you refuse to apologize or repent.

I've been corrected before in certain things, and have profusely thanked and honored them for it.

Not in this matter yet though.

So, yes, I refuse to repent and agree with you, which obviously is more important to you, than the truth of Scripture.

The Millinium of Christ in Scripture is:
1. Jesus and His resurrected saints ruling them on earth, that were not killed by plagues, nor were at Armageddon.
2. Those left alive will then be judged as natural sheep or goats.
3. Only the sheep will be allowed to enter Christ's kingdom on earth.
4. Many of them will then flow unto Him to hear His law, and be converted to walk in His paths, even as Christians today.
5. Those refusing to keep the feast of tabernalces, will recieve no rainb, until the repent.
6. There will be no wars between nations, nor communities.
7. The King's law will be fairly enforced over all the earth, without respect of persons. And execution of snetence will be exacted swiftly without appeal.
8. The lion with lay down with the lamb.
9. Abraham will receive the land promised him, and the natural Jews not slaughtered at Armageddon will have opportunity to be circumcised of the spirit of Christ, and be His natural priesthood over all the earth.

Secondly, your threats are infantile. You have threatened me by private message and publicly. This will never work. Intimation belongs to bullies. It is unChristian. It shows how much you lack a solid biblical argument.

No threats, just merciful warnings. Just stick to the subject at hand, and I will have no need to report you.

Yes, you have once again tried to misrepresent me, but I'll let it slide.

Thirdly, calling Amils a "sect" is designed to insult and inflame.

Then report me. If the moderators say that is no good, then I'll not do it.

In the meantime, you amils remind me of other sects that get personal, when their personal doctine is not agreed with.

Such as OSAS, Sabbath commanders, Acts 2:18 baptizers, etc...

If you attack or misrepresent Amil I reserve the right to respond.

True. Just keep it professional.

However, I can't force you to actually address my points as written. There's no rule on the site, that can do that.

That's is just a matter of honesty and honor.

The reason why you are so hostile and frustrated to Amils is because you have no biblical response to their posts.

If people disagreeing with you is 'hostile', then you really do have a feelings problem.

The only frustration I have from you amils, like other sects, is your inability to address what others say, as they say it.

As well as getting personal with them, once your arguments are nothing but vain repetition.

 

[robert derrick]

I belong to the Church on earth, your claim I belong to a sect is insulting, im waiting for your apology to your untrue defamatory claims

Report me. No one says you are not a Christian, nor part of the churches of God.

Just a doctrinal sect of amils, that all have the same characteristic of symbolizing Scripture into fables, and get personal with those that disagree with you.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Jesus sitting as King on a throne in a Temple in Jerusalem would be a dead give away.

Matthew 25:31

Since there will be no earthly throne in literal Jerusalem, and hasn't been since the Temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70C.E.....the grand spiritual Temple, (of which Israel's Temple and priesthood were a type) is in heaven. Revelation 20:6 states that....
"Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years." (future tense)

Given at the end of the first century, after the literal Temple was destroyed almost 30 years earlier, this is speaking about a future priesthood with those raised with a "heavenly calling", making up that priesthood under their High Priest, Jesus Christ. (Hebrews 3:1)

Since Jesus is both a King and a priest, so are all those chosen to rule with him from heaven. It was where Jesus said he was going to "prepare a place" for them....in the house of his Father. This is no earthly house because no indication was ever given that a physical Temple would be needed again. The 'type' was now a reality in heaven, from where Christ and his bride will rule mankind.....what a marvelous vantage point.


When Jesus gave his prophesy on the time of the end, he told them about the "sign of his presence".....earthly events would signal that fact, unseen by anyone on earth, just as the coronation of the King was unseen to mankind. (Daniel 7:13-14) The entire book of Daniel was about "the time of the end", which is amazing when we realize that we are seeing the fulfillment of his words, recorded some 500 years before Christ walked the earth.
Jesus said....(Matthew 24:3-14)
“For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. 8 All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress."
So unprecedented war was just the beginning.....the world had never been engaged in a global conflict before 1914. The food shortages ensued and a large portion of the world is still starving.....and the great earthquakes are still happening.
Luke's parallel account also mentions...pestilences....diseases, which were seen after WW1 with the Spanish flu epidemic which took more lives than the war did.
“Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and pestilences; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs."

What else is unprecedented?......"fearful sights and from heaven great signs".....what was used in the first world war that was indeed something amazing? Aircraft, which could deliver a deadly assault from above, for the first time in history. After a brief hiatus, again, the world found itself embroiled in a second global conflict, and this time the assault from above was indeed fearful...atomic weapons were used for the first time, engendering fear to the point where the scientific community invented a "doomsday clock" which I believe is closer to midnight right now than it has ever been.

"9 “Then people will hand you over to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be hated by all the nations on account of my name. 10 Then, too, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and mislead many; 12 and because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will grow cold. 13 But the one who has endured to the end will be saved. 14 And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations,+ and then the end will come."

As part of the sign there would be hatred and persecution of Jesus' disciples. People would be stumbled and betray one another out of hatred, just like the Jews displayed for Jesus and the disciples who continued his work. Both claimed to worship the same God....but who really did?

The "increase in lawlessness" would make many withdraw and display distrust of others, as well as the institutions in which they had previously put their faith....whether that is political or religious, there is no doubt that love and trust are fast disappearing from the world as we draw closer to "the end".

Daniel also brings out another important point....identifying the last rulers of this world system, Daniel brings us to the rulers of our present day. (Daniel 2:44)
Back in January of 1918, in the very throes of World War I, American president, Woodrow Wilson, proposed the "League of Nations". It was supposed to bring the world together and create peace on earth. The World Council of Churches declared this organization to be "the political expression of God's Kingdom on earth"......this is the "disgusting thing" that will cause desolation on earth as the instrument used by satan's world system to control us as these last days draw to a close. This "League" failed in the wake of WW2 and was reborn as "the United Nations" afterwards, which has again been an abject failure. If, as the churches suggested this was a portrait of God's Kingdom, then failure is expected and we are all doomed.

"The disgusting thing standing in the holy place" in the first century, was the Roman army destroying God's Temple.
So Jesus said....
“Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), 16 then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains. 17 Let the man on the housetop not come down to take the goods out of his house, 18 and let the man in the field not return to pick up his outer garment. 19 Woe to the pregnant women and those nursing a baby in those days! 20 Keep praying that your flight may not occur in wintertime nor on the Sabbath day; 21 for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short."

In Jesus' day the signal to "flee to the mountains" was the Roman army standing where it ought not....yet the Romans had come four years earlier and had attempted to undermine the wall of the Temple....then unexpectedly, they simply withdrew and left. This was the signal to flee and those Christians who heeded Jesus' warning, were saved when the Romans returned and finished what they had started. Any who remained in Jerusalem or who felt it safe to return after a couple of years, did not survive the greatest tribulation in Jewish history.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Continued.....

What are "the mountains" for us today? Because the dual fulfillment of Jesus' prophesy carries us forward to our day when a greater tribulation is prophesied at the time of Jesus' return. (Matthew 24:21)
The "disgusting thing" is the United Nations pretending to be 'the political expression of God's Kingdom on earth' and this will cause many in Christendom to welcome her promises of "peace and security"....but it will be a false hope.

1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 says...
"Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night. 3 Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape. 4 But you, brothers, you are not in darkness, so that the day should overtake you as it would thieves"...

True Christians will have already 'fled to the mountains'.....they have removed themselves from Babylon the great and they are ready for what is about to happen......whenever it happens.

The angels on the earth would be the other sign. Since we still see the stars in the sky, the angels are still at their post, and not on earth.

You think angels are the literal stars? You think that they are going to be on the earth? Where does it say this?

The third obvious phenomenon would be God sitting on the GWT. That will be seen at the Second Coming because humans will no longer have a spiritual blindness preventing them from seeing that physical GWT.

There is no seperate parousia from the physical Second Coming. There is only one event at the opening of the 6th Seal in Revelation 6.

The prophesy mentions Christ's "parousia" which means "presence"......it must include his arrival because his" presence" cannot occur without him arriving at some point. The last days were to begin with the sign he gave, and they were to finish with his judgment. Two separate events....one unseen by the world....the other a visible manifestation of his presence.

We are as humans spiritually blind and deceived. After the Second Coming, humans will not be spiritually blind, just deceived.

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean, and without scriptural backup, your words are rather empty.

 

[Aunty Jane]

If you weren't so enraged by people disagreeing with you, then you might be able to comprehend what they are saying.

I don't think you can even comprehend what you are saying, since you seem to be the one enraged......you have no scripture to back up what you assume it says about many things....you just show yourself to have a hateful vendetta against Jehovah's Witnesses....in this way you fulfill scripture. (John 15:18-21) Congratulations.

Everything you say that we believe is a figment of your imagination......we do NOT believe what you say we do.....How do I know that? Because I have been a JW for 50 years and I know exactly what we believe, and where it is located in the Bible, and what it says in full agreement with the entirety of God's word. All your accusations are false...so if you start with a false premise, everything you add to it will also be false. What does that make you?

One warning only. Next time I report you for inflammatory accusations against my character.

You amils certainly share the same characteristic in getting personal with others.

Oh dear....let us all quake in our boots. There is only one person making inflammatory accusations against others here....

 

[WPM]

Are you incapable of understanding what I write?

They are not believers in Millennialism of Scripture.

They teach their own kind of millennium, even as their own kind of gospel, corrupting the gospel of Jesus Christ.

As well as His Millennium.

Who cares if the JWs are slightly different from your brand of Premil. They are still Pre-mil. They believe Jesus is coming before a future millennium. Amils and Postmils are Post-mil. Hello! So, this thread only exposes your ignorance of the facts. You treat history the way you treat the Word - in an Ad-hoc manner.

I've been corrected before in certain things, and have profusely thanked and honored them for it.

Not in this matter yet though.

So, yes, I refuse to repent and agree with you, which obviously is more important to you, than the truth of Scripture.

The Millinium of Christ in Scripture is:
1. Jesus and His resurrected saints ruling them on earth, that were not killed by plagues, nor were at Armageddon.

Where does Revelation 20 locate Jesus on earth during the millennium?

2. Those left alive will then be judged as natural sheep or goats.

So, you believe in a general judgment when Jesus comes the next time. Righteous and the wicked will be judged at the same time before the same throne. Then they will go to their separate eternal destinies.

3. Only the sheep will be allowed to enter Christ's kingdom on earth.

I agree. But it is an eternal kingdom freed from the bondage of corruption, not your sin-cursed version full of wicked as the sand of the sea.

4. Many of them will then flow unto Him to hear His law, and be converted to walk in His paths, even as Christians today.

Where does Revelation 20 teach this?

5. Those refusing to keep the feast of tabernalces, will recieve no rainb, until the repent.

Where does Revelation 20 teach this?

6. There will be no wars between nations, nor communities.

Where does Revelation 20 teach this?

7. The King's law will be fairly enforced over all the earth, without respect of persons. And execution of snetence will be exacted swiftly without appeal.

Where does Revelation 20 teach this?

8. The lion with lay down with the lamb.

Where does Revelation 20 teach this?

9. Abraham will receive the land promised him, and the natural Jews not slaughtered at Armageddon will have opportunity to be circumcised of the spirit of Christ, and be His natural priesthood over all the earth.

Where does Revelation 20 teach this?

 

[robert derrick]

Do you accept that the figure “a thousand” (including a thousand years) and ten thousand are repeatedly used in Scripture to denote a vast indeterminate amount or period of time?

A and the thousand years in Rev 20, is not a figure.

I don't believe you are even capable of reading scripture, without inputting your own mind into it.

You subject Scripture to your own prophecy.

This incidentally is the only passage in Scripture that makes mention of the actual number "one thousand," albeit, the term is used to impress a spiritual truth.

Knowing the spiritual teaching of Scripture, does not include doing way with it's natural meaning.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.

There is no expiration time to a figurative thousand years.

 

[robert derrick]

I don't think you can even comprehend what you are saying, since you seem to be the one enraged......you have no scripture to back up what you assume it says about many things....you just show yourself to have a hateful vendetta against Jehovah's Witnesses....in this way you fulfill scripture. (John 15:18-21) Congratulations.

I've been declared to be the fulfillment of prophecy against Sabbath commanders too.

Thanks.

If disagreeing with you is hateful, then you need humility for correction.

Everything you say that we believe is a figment of your imagination......we do NOT believe what you say we do.....

You're not able to be reasoned with afterall.

How do I know that? Because I have been a JW for 50 years and I know exactly what we believe, and where it is located in the Bible, and what it says in full agreement with the entirety of God's word.

No one doubts you believe everything you think.

All your accusations are false...so if you start with a false premise, everything you add to it will also be false. What does that make you?

All created christs are false christs.

Simple.

 

[WPM]

No threats, just merciful warnings. Just stick to the subject at hand, and I will have no need to report you.

Yes, you have once again tried to misrepresent me, but I'll let it slide.

If you think these infantile threats gain you any credibility you are more deceived than you realize. It shows your insecurity in being challenged.

Then report me. If the moderators say that is no good, then I'll not do it.

In the meantime, you amils remind me of other sects that get personal, when their personal doctine is not agreed with.

Such as OSAS, Sabbath commanders, Acts 2:18 baptizers, etc...

I have no time for babyish tactics.

True. Just keep it professional.

However, I can't force you to actually address my points as written. There's no rule on the site, that can do that.

That's is just a matter of honesty and honor.


If people disagreeing with you is 'hostile', then you really do have a feelings problem.

The only frustration I have from you amils, like other sects, is your inability to address what others say, as they say it.

As well as getting personal with them, once your arguments are nothing but vain repetition.

You like to inflame. That is part of your approach. It doesn't work because it is childish.

 

[Aunty Jane]

If you think these infantile threats gain you any credibility you are more deceived than you realize. It shows your insecurity in being challenged.



I have no time for babyish tactics.



You like to inflame. That is part of your approach. It doesn't work because it is childish.

I think its time to hit the ignore button.....he can rant and rave to anyone whose interested...in the meantime those who are not haters can always find a JW here to ask their questions and to get genuine answers....not ones that come from figments of an overactive imagination....

 

[WPM]

A and the thousand years in Rev 20, is not a figure.

I don't believe you are even capable of reading scripture, without inputting your own mind into it.

You subject Scripture to your own prophecy.

Knowing the spiritual teaching of Scripture, does not include doing way with it's natural meaning.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.

There is no expiration time to a figurative thousand years.

Wrong. It means a long indefinite period of time. This is a mystery hidden from man. That is why God uses the figurative "thousand years."

The Lord taught in Matthew 25:14: “For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods.”

We find parallel accounts in Mark 13 and Luke 19. In Mark’s account we learn: “For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch” (Mark 13:34).

In Luke 19:12-13 we read: “A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.”

As we piece these 3 accounts together we grasp the fulness of the whole parable. Here Christ is speaking of the intra-Advent period. He is talking about the kingdom authority that was delegated to God’s people during the intra-Advent period. These servants were given “authority” and ordered to “Occupy till I come.”

He continues in Matthew 25:19-30: “After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord."

Here is a figurative picture of the final judgment that occurs at the all-consummating return of Jesus. This comes after a long protracted period where their service would be accounted.

Jesus taught us that the gap between His first and second comings would be so long it would result in the scoffing of the ungodly. Diligence and patience would be required from the redeemed.

When you examine the record of each parallel you will see that the common it in the glorious climatic second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. That is when the general resurrection is. That is when the general judgment is. These are all related to the final event.

Does the Bible contradict itself? Why in places in the New Testament does it present the coming of the Lord as “at hand,” “near” or coming “quickly” or “shortly” while in other places it is presented as “after a long time”? In fact, the duration of the intra-Advent period is so long that the religious cynics mock the reality and realization of the second coming. Jesus details their contempt in Matthew 24:48: “My lord delayeth his coming.” Peter similarly records their derision: “Where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.” Clearly, the wait was long in human terms! Clearly, it did not occur in a short time in human terms! The supposed delay causes the “fellowservants” in the parable of Christ to carelessly” eat and drink with the drunken.”

Jesus continues in Mark 13:35–37: “Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.”

Jesus said in the other parallel passage in Luke 19:15: “And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.”

We didn’t see the reward of the righteous and the reward of the wicked. This is a picture of Judgment Day. Jesus says of the hypocrite in Luke 19:23, 26-27: “Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury? … For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”

Amils believe that Revelation 20 describes the intra-Advent period. This indeed is a long indefinite period in between the first coming and second coming of Jesus. They believe that thousand years is a long extended figurative period that will be followed by a season of final persecution before the end.

 

[ewq1938]

Report me. No one says you are not a Christian, nor part of the churches of God.

Just a doctrinal sect of amils, that all have the same characteristic of symbolizing Scripture into fables, and get personal with those that disagree with you.

In the highlighted meaning, both Premill and Amill are sects without a negative connotation.


sect:

1 a : a dissenting or schismatic religious body especially : one regarded as extreme or heretical
b : a religious denomination

2 archaic : sex sense 1 so is all her sect—William Shakespeare

3 a : a group adhering to a distinctive doctrine or to a leader
b : party
c : faction sect 2 of 2 abbreviation section; sectional

 

[robert derrick]

Who do you think you are? Are you the village bully? Do you think you can just intimate anyone who disagrees with you? That is utter folly and pride! This is not Christian behavior.

All because posters challenge your lies that the JWs are Amils. How about apologizing and repenting of these lies that you promote? Even Premils have tried to correct your error on this thread, without success.