Abortion

[Naomanos]

But I still support the Lords prayer: Let it be done on earth as it is in heaven.

As do I, but that doesn't mean I cannot allow others to be part of the religion that they want to be part of. If they choose to become a Christian, rejoice. If I talk to them about the good news and they choose to become a Christian, rejoice.

The fact remains that this country was founded on freedom of religion.

 

[Taken]

It isn't my fault you aren't comprehending what I am saying. What I am saying isn't complete nonsense.

He speaks for others then disagrees with himself.

 

[ScottA]

So no, at no point in the would-be "forming" of the body or soul of mankind is there any time they are not fully them and rather prematurely not them. If we are speaking of things pertaining to God and His children, those are the terms. Meanwhile, partial sight and understanding, has been the cause of partial blindness and misunderstanding.

No, no, is, not, not.....Huh? No clue what you are trying to say.

The matter of when life begins is not a matter of birth in the flesh, whether at the time of conception or the time of birth....but rather began when that life was conceived in the mind of God. Which, for those who are "in Christ", was "before the foundation of the world."

 

[dev553344]

As do I, but that doesn't mean I cannot allow others to be part of the religion that they want to be part of. If they choose to become a Christian, rejoice. If I talk to them about the good news and they choose to become a Christian, rejoice.

The fact remains that this country was founded on freedom of religion.

I guess I think there should be a country that only allows Christianity to be taught. I guess I couldn't see any other religion taught from Heaven. He would probably throw them in spirit prison for defiance in promoting some other religion. Or worshiping some other god. I think that's what we learn from the bible.

Anyways, I guess I don't support mans ways or my country's ways over God's ways. Cheers.

 

[Naomanos]

I guess I think there should be a country that only allows Christianity to be taught

That would be called Christian Nationalism. I do not support Christian Nationalism in any form.

He would probably throw them in hell for defiance in promoting some other religion. Or worshipping some other god. I think that's what we learn from the bible.

You are right of course, but allowing freedom of religion is not promoting other religions. It simply means that one can practice the faith that they want to practice. We know that other religions are not from God and that God is a jealous God.

It is my belief that God wants people to willingly come to Him and not be forced into coming to him.

 

[Taken]

The matter of when life begins is not a matter of birth in the flesh, whether at the time of conception or the time of birth....but rather begins when that life is conceived in the mind of God. Which, for those who are "in Christ", was "before the foundation of the world."

The topic was not about being THOUGHT OF in Gods Mind.
What AUTHOR does not THINK before manifesting?

I believe a PERSON consists of a body and soul.
I believe that occurs when a body is born and given a soul.
Those IN Christ are given Gods seed, according to Gods Order and Way.

 

[Stan B]

By the way, Einstein – where IS the “Great Whore” located?
MY sources say apostate Jerusalem is the ONLY one that fits the puzzle . . .

The Bible is very specific as to the locaton of the Great Whore:

"Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and will have nothing. Then the PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. [i.e. The Romans] The end will come like a flood, and until the end there will be war; desolations have been decreed. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27

 

[dev553344]

That would be called Christian Nationalism. I do not support Christian Nationalism in any form.



You are right of course, but allowing freedom of religion is not promoting other religions. It simply means that one can practice the faith that they want to practice. We know that other religions are not from God and that God is a jealous God.

It is my belief that God wants people to willingly come to Him and not be forced into coming to him.

Well maybe we know what to expect in heaven, and it will be nothing like here. And by the way, yes God allows people to get thrown into spirit prison for worshiping some other gods. He had Moses kill them for that. But now with Jesus we ought not judge. So no one is forcing anyone to go to heaven. Except the dogs, because all dogs go to heaven Kittens too:

 

[BreadOfLife]

That would be called Christian Nationalism. I do not support Christian Nationalism in any form.



You are right of course, but allowing freedom of religion is not promoting other religions. It simply means that one can practice the faith that they want to practice. We know that other religions are not from God and that God is a jealous God.

It is my belief that God wants people to willingly come to Him and not be forced into coming to him.

To ALLOW Christianity to be taught is "Christian Nationalism"??
Where do you come up with this garbage?

Soooooo, according to YOUR logic, whatever is "allowed" becomes "Nationalism"??

 

[Naomanos]

Well maybe we know what to expect in heaven, and it will be nothing like here. And by the way, yes God allows people to get thrown into spirit prison for worshiping some other gods. He had Moses kill them for that. But now with Jesus we ought not judge. So no one is forcing anyone to go to heaven. Except the dogs, because all dogs go to heaven Kittens too:

Yes, all dogs and maybe some kittens go to heaven...

 

[dev553344]

Yes, all dogs and maybe some kittens go to heaven...

Yeah know, the democrats do have a good program idea for helping the disabled and poor. I just hope their not doing it to get votes so they can change the country into a communist dictatorship. Which is kinda what I saw with Biden and mandates and blocking pipelines and such. My food is so expensive now and I'm on the disabled budget and can just afford food every month. That wasn't the case before Biden crashed the economy. Kind of consuming the extra money they gave me. Not sure if it's helping anymore to vote democrat.

I know you only support medical required abortions. And I probably do also. But others don't. Some support any abortion as a womans rights movement. I've heard horror stories about abortions. Fetus being aborted screaming and crying and such in the womb and stuff or something like that. My Mother was a nurse and she used to tell us the stories she heard. I got a real ugly picture of what the doctors were taking part in. Some of the doctors walking out in tears.

 

[Stan B]

But I still support the Lords prayer: Let it be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Will you find abortions, GBLT, other religions in heaven? So I support the Lords way for my country. Anything else and I would not be on God's side I suppose.

And God's way is LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL, so unlike Baptists, Evangelicals and Fundamentalists, who are focused upon destroying FREEDOM in favour of the new god they now follow: the god of Taliban, Ayatolahs, et al, removing FREEDOM and replacing it with their new Satanic religion of complete control over others. They have abandoned God for Allah!!

 

[Taken]

The fact remains that this country was founded on freedom of religion.

Exactly, according to Gods Standards and Principles...
Don’t prohibit Freewill for one to choose their own beliefs.... WHILE....Encouraging Godly beliefs.....and BTW....electing and appointing men VESTED in your country AND Godly! <—> that has changed for the worst!
I have said it before and will repeat...it’s as if the US is competing to be the Whore of Babylon.

 

[Stan B]

But I still support the Lords prayer: Let it be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Will you find abortions, GBLT, other religions in heaven? So I support the Lords way for my country. Anything else and I would not be on God's side I suppose.

Apparently, you have not been able to find the answer to that question in the Bible. Are you satisfied with the answer God has given? "I dunno" is a good answer to Biblical mysteries.

 

[dev553344]

And God's way is LIBERTY, FREEDOM, FREEWILL, so unlike Baptists, Evangelicals and Fundamentalists, who are focused upon destroying FREEDOM in favour of the new god they now follow: the god of Taliban, Ayatolahs, et al, removing FREEDOM and replacing it with their new Satanic religion of complete control over others. They have abandoned God for Allah!!

Well the God of the old testament didn't support human freedom the way you're describing it. Jesus let them be, but not always. I suppose there was a time when Jesus had Moses kill those ex-slaves for worshiping some other God. OT stuff though.

I think now days, we need to just protect our freedoms and leave it up to God to judge people. I suppose we have the best alternative available here in America. Not the best it could be, or it would be like heaven, where if you defied God and his commandments you went to spirit prison to think about it more.

 

[dev553344]

Apparently, you have not been able to find the answer to that question in the Bible. Are you satisfied with the answer God has given? "I dunno" is a good answer to Biblical mysteries.

The bible has the answers you're refering to. I know the bible pretty well. You won't find homosexuality being accepted in heaven, or abortions of any kind, and only The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are worshipped, everyone that does not follow their commandments goes to spirit prison whether here on earth after they die or in heaven. Heck Satan was cast out for just that right?

 

[Jack]

You didn't address what I said and went off on a tangent. It wasn't evasiveness, it was trying to get you back on track.

There is more than one issue to vote for. If I didn't care about the programs above, I would vote Republican, but since I do care about those programs, I will vote Democrat.

I also said one more reply like the one I quoted above and you were going on ignore. I am a man of my word.

What's more important to you than saving the lives of millions of babies?

 

[Stan B]

The bible has the answers you're refering to. I know the bible pretty well. You won't find homosexuality being accepted there, or abortions of any kind, and only The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are worshipped, everyone that does not follow their commandments goes to spirit prison whether here on earth after they die or in heaven. Heck Satan was cast out for just that right?

I suppose abortion is one of those mysteries. Nowhere in the Bible is abortion forbidden; quite the opposite, is demanded in the case of a fetus being conceived from an adulterous relationship.

 

[dev553344]

I suppose abortion is one of those mysteries. Nowhere in the Bible is abortion forbidden; quite the opposite, is demanded in the case of a fetus being conceived from an adulterous relationship.

Yes I think I caught your OT references in another thread on the issue. Interesting stuff. God is a mystery for sure. I find I don't really know his will often and must ask for it if I need. He has infinite IQ and I don't. So he thinks quite differently than us humans.

 

[Stan B]

Yes I think I caught your OT references in another thread on the issue. Interesting stuff. God is a mystery for sure. I find I don't really know his will often and must ask for it if I need. He has infinite IQ and I don't. So he thinks quite differently than us humans.

That has been God's way so many times. With Daniel's prophecies, God told him to shut up the book . . . for now . .

And then when Apostle Paul was taken up into Heaven, God instructed him to keep his mouth shut, and not reveal to anyone what he had seen.