Easter's Importance

[Webers_Home]

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Of the two-- forgiveness vs. acquittal --I prefer acquittal because
forgiveness leaves traces on the books, whereas acquittal leaves no traces.

For example: files are to be opened at the scene depicted by Rev 20:11-15.
I've no doubt that quite a few of the "works" in those files are forgiven
works; yet there they are to be reckoned with because the offender, though
forgiven, wasn't acquitted-- roughly defined as an adjudication of innocence
due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict.

• Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised
to life for our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" roughly pertains to a verdict of
innocence which, in my estimation, is a whole lot better than a pardon.

* Note that Jesus' crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to gain folks an
acquittal, viz: had his crucified dead body not been restored to life, we'd all
remain in very grave danger of facing justice at the great white throne
event.

• 1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is useless, and
you are still under condemnation for your sins.
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[Robert Gwin]

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Of the two-- forgiveness vs. acquittal --I prefer acquittal because
forgiveness leaves traces on the books, whereas acquittal leaves no traces.

For example: files are to be opened at the scene depicted by Rev 20:11-15.
I've no doubt that quite a few of the "works" in those files are forgiven
works; yet there they are to be reckoned with because the offender, though
forgiven, wasn't acquitted-- roughly defined as an adjudication of innocence
due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict.

• Rom 4:25 . . He was delivered over to death for our sins, and was raised
to life for our justification.

The Greek word translated "justification" roughly pertains to a verdict of
innocence which, in my estimation, is a whole lot better than a pardon.

* Note that Jesus' crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to gain folks an
acquittal, viz: had his crucified dead body not been restored to life, we'd all
remain in very grave danger of facing justice at the great white throne
event.

• 1Cor 15:17 . . If Christ has not been raised, then your faith is useless, and
you are still under condemnation for your sins.
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Easter is not in the Bible

 

[Webers_Home]

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Christ's followers are counted as joint participants in his crucifixion. (Rom
6:3, Rom 6:6, Gal 2:20)

They are also counted as joint participants in his resurrection. (Rom 6:4-5)

So then, seeing as Christ will never again be put to death for sin, and from
now on be permanently immortal (Rom 6:9-10) then the same is true for his
joint participants, i.e. never again will they be in danger of the wages of sin,
and should make an effort to accept that they have immortality in the bag.
(Rom 6:11)
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[amigo de christo]

Easter is not in the Bible

a friendly reminder to all that has breath . DONT FOLLOW POPE FRANCIS and THE RCC . okay you all may return
to the topic at hand .

 

[Robert Gwin]

a friendly reminder to all that has breath . DONT FOLLOW POPE FRANCIS and THE RCC . okay you all may return
to the topic at hand .

Although I agree sir, I fail to see the relevancy

 

[amigo de christo]

Although I agree sir, I fail to see the relevancy

What entity first began to bring pagan celebrations into the church . Then know and understand the revelancy my friend .
Be encouraged in the glorious Lord .

 

[Robert Gwin]

What entity first began to bring pagan celebrations into the church . Then know and understand the revelancy my friend .
Be encouraged in the glorious Lord .

Obviously: the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn [upon them]. 2 Cor 4:4

What amazes me about it Amigo is that they still call it by the name of the goddess that it was for, even retaining the customs and try to pass it off as being Christian.

 

[amigo de christo]

Obviously: the god of this world hath blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn [upon them]. 2 Cor 4:4

What amazes me about it Amigo is that they still call it by the name of the goddess that it was for, even retaining the customs and try to pass it off as being Christian.

marvel not . marvel not for the blind see only what the BLIND tells them to SEE .
Nothing suprises me anymore .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Easter is not in the Bible

Only a person who doesn't know the Scriptures would make such an absurd statement (Matt. 28:2-7, Mark 16:5-7, Luke 24: 6-7).

 

[BreadOfLife]

a friendly reminder to all that has breath . DONT FOLLOW POPE FRANCIS and THE RCC . okay you all may return
to the topic at hand .

Regurgitating your usual nonsense, I see.
Your obsession is noted . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

Beware peoples the main recruiter of the RCC is back again . As for me i shall point to Christ .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Beware peoples the main recruiter of the RCC is back again . As for me i shall point to Christ .

I'm not here to "recruit" anyone.
I'm only here to expose people like YOU . . .

 

[bbyrd009]

Beware peoples the main recruiter of the RCC is back again . As for me i shall point to Christ .

well, hard to deny that if you are in the streets and need help, the RCC is like one of the only places open and willing to lend a hand monday-friday. And they help anyone.

 

[Illuminator]

Beware peoples the main recruiter of the RCC is back again . As for me i shall point to Christ .

You "point to Christ" with stupid arrogant insults, as if Catholics are a lower form of life. You have no church, no pastor, no bishop, and have deified your privatized version of Christianity. You refuse to have your bigotry corrected out of pride, and have demonstrated this time and time again with your despicable anti-Catholic drivel. You are an immature troll incapable of civilized discussion, just cheap shots and flaming zingers. You "point to Christ" while scourging His body at the same time. There is nothing "Christian" about slurs (RCC) and baseless insults.

We don't "follow the Pope", we follow the same teachings that he is bound to follow, the same teachings as Jesus and the Apostles, clarified and developed over time.

The pagan influence fallacy is a fallacy, always asserted, never proven. It's another one of your many baseless cheap shots, while "pointing to Christ".

Opponents of the Church often attempt to discredit Catholicism by attempting to show similarities between it and the beliefs or practices of ancient paganism. This fallacy is frequently committed by Fundamentalists against Catholics; by Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and others against both Protestants and Catholics; and by atheists and skeptics against both Christians and Jews.​

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The nineteenth century witnessed a flowering of this “pagan influence fallacy.” Publications such as The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop (the classic English text charging the Catholic Church with paganism) paved the way for generations of antagonism toward the Church. During this time, entire new sects were created (Seventh-day Adventists, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses)—all considering traditional Catholicism and Protestantism as polluted by paganism. This era also saw atheistic “freethinkers” such as Robert Ingersoll writing books attacking Christianity and Judaism as pagan.​

Is Catholicism Pagan?

Catholic beliefs are not "borrowed" from earlier pagan cults. We clear away the confusion and give you some helpful hints on how to respond to this charge.

www.catholic.com

 

[Illuminator]

Only a person who doesn't know the Scriptures would make such an absurd statement (Matt. 28:2-7, Mark 16:5-7, Luke 24: 6-7).

Oh boy! It looks like we are in for another another word game. Easter is a day we celebrate the Resurrection. If Easter is not in the Bible, that implies the Resurrection is not in the Bible either. It doesn't get any dumber than that.
The word "Trinity" is not in the Bible either, but the doctrine is plainly taught.
"Christmas" is not in the Bible either, it is a day we celebrate the Birth of Christ. I can't dummie it down any further.

 

[Illuminator]

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Of the two-- forgiveness vs. acquittal --I prefer acquittal because
forgiveness leaves traces on the books, whereas acquittal leaves no traces.

Forgiveness leaves no traces in any book. Acquittal is just a paint job over underlying rust.

Isaiah 43:25 “I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.
Psalm 51:1-2 – O God, blot out my transgressions, wash me thoroughly from my iniquity and cleanse me from my sin.

This cleansing requires an inner change of heart. Weber's Home thinks we are so depraved that God only covers our sins up by declaring us righteous (imputing Christ’s righteousness to us). The Catholic (and Scriptural view), however, is that God is powerful enough to blot out our sins and remove them. The view that God just declares us righteous by “covering us up,” denigrates the role of the Holy Spirit in our lives, who continues the work of Christ through His work of justification and sanctification (infusing His grace into souls and changing the inner person).

Acquittal in your context is just a paint job over rust, metaphorically speaking.

 

[Illuminator]

What amazes me about it Amigo is that they still call it by the name of the goddess that it was for, even retaining the customs and try to pass it off as being Christian.

You are either grossly misinformed, or just another prejudiced anti-Catholic bigot who never documents their sources. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with the former.

The word Easter is of English origin. Ishtar was worshipped in Mesopotamia (modern Iraq), not England, which is thousands of miles away. Despite sounding similar, the two words are unrelated.

The eighth-century British historian Bede claimed that the word Easter came from the name of the month in which it occurred (basically, April). He said this month used to be called Eostur, though this was no longer true in his day. He also thought the month was named after a Germanic goddess who was no longer worshipped.

Bede is the only source who mentions this goddess, so he may be incorrect. Regardless, this applies only to the origin of the English word, not the origin of the feast. Its origin is revealed by its name in other languages.
In Italian, it’s Pasqua;
in Spanish, Pascha;
in Portugese, Páscoa;
in French, Pâques;
in Danish, Paaske;
in Dutch, Pasen;
in Swedish, Påsk; and so on.
All of these derive from the Latin Pascha or Greek Paskha, both of which are words for the Jewish feast of Passover (Hebrew, Pesakh).

The *event* Easter (as opposed to the *word* easter) celebrates is the resurrection of Jesus, and it is celebrated in conjunction with Passover because Jesus was crucified at Passover and rose the following Sunday (John 19:14-18, 20:1-20). That explains why Easter is not celebrated on a fixed date the way Christmas is. It can be confusing because we are talking about 2 different calendar systems.

The reason Easter’s timing is based on the full moon after the spring equinox is because that was the timing of Passover on the Jewish calendar. The Law of Moses requires Passover to be celebrated on the fourteenth of the month of Nisan (Lev. 23:5). This is a spring month that contains the equinox, and because the Jewish months begin on the new moon, the fourteenth fell on the full moon.
The timing of the feast thus is Jewish, not pagan.

What is ultimately important is what Easter signifies today—the resurrection of Jesus—not where it came from. (“the genetic fallacy.”)
source

You can continue to wield "easter" as a bat to beat Catholics with thus inadvertently accuse Passover as named after a pagan god because you don't know any better. Now you know better. Don't harden your heart and post the same garbage next year.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

You "point to Christ" with stupid arrogant insults, as if Catholics are a lower form of life. You have no church, no pastor, no bishop, and have deified your privatized version of Christianity. You refuse to have your bigotry corrected out of pride, and have demonstrated this time and time again with your despicable anti-Catholic drivel. You are an immature troll incapable of civilized discussion, just cheap shots and flaming zingers. You "point to Christ" while scourging His body at the same time. There is nothing "Christian" about slurs (RCC) and baseless insults.

We don't "follow the Pope", we follow the same teachings that he is bound to follow, the same teachings as Jesus and the Apostles, clarified and developed over time.

The pagan influence fallacy is a fallacy, always asserted, never proven. It's another one of your many baseless cheap shots, while "pointing to Christ".

Opponents of the Church often attempt to discredit Catholicism by attempting to show similarities between it and the beliefs or practices of ancient paganism. This fallacy is frequently committed by Fundamentalists against Catholics; by Seventh-day Adventists, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, and others against both Protestants and Catholics; and by atheists and skeptics against both Christians and Jews.​

​

The nineteenth century witnessed a flowering of this “pagan influence fallacy.” Publications such as The Two Babylons by Alexander Hislop (the classic English text charging the Catholic Church with paganism) paved the way for generations of antagonism toward the Church. During this time, entire new sects were created (Seventh-day Adventists, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses)—all considering traditional Catholicism and Protestantism as polluted by paganism. This era also saw atheistic “freethinkers” such as Robert Ingersoll writing books attacking Christianity and Judaism as pagan.​

Is Catholicism Pagan?

Catholic beliefs are not "borrowed" from earlier pagan cults. We clear away the confusion and give you some helpful hints on how to respond to this charge.

www.catholic.com

Who is insulting? Who is calling for antagonism? HELL-man, you think we're stupid?!

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

<Catholic beliefs are not "borrowed" from earlier pagan cults.>

DEAD RIGHT! Catholic beliefs are earlier pagan cults.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

You are either grossly misinformed, or just another prejudiced anti-Catholic bigot who never documents their sources. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and go with the former.

The word Easter is of English origin. Ishtar was worshipped in Mesopotamia (modern Iraq), not England, which is thousands of miles away. Despite sounding similar, the two words are unrelated.

The eighth-century British historian Bede claimed that the word Easter came from the name of the month in which it occurred (basically, April). He said this month used to be called Eostur, though this was no longer true in his day. He also thought the month was named after a Germanic goddess who was no longer worshipped.

Bede is the only source who mentions this goddess, so he may be incorrect. Regardless, this applies only to the origin of the English word, not the origin of the feast. Its origin is revealed by its name in other languages.
In Italian, it’s Pasqua;
in Spanish, Pascha;
in Portugese, Páscoa;
in French, Pâques;
in Danish, Paaske;
in Dutch, Pasen;
in Swedish, Påsk; and so on.
All of these derive from the Latin Pascha or Greek Paskha, both of which are words for the Jewish feast of Passover (Hebrew, Pesakh).

The *event* Easter (as opposed to the *word* easter) celebrates is the resurrection of Jesus, and it is celebrated in conjunction with Passover because Jesus was crucified at Passover and rose the following Sunday (John 19:14-18, 20:1-20). That explains why Easter is not celebrated on a fixed date the way Christmas is. It can be confusing because we are talking about 2 different calendar systems.

The reason Easter’s timing is based on the full moon after the spring equinox is because that was the timing of Passover on the Jewish calendar. The Law of Moses requires Passover to be celebrated on the fourteenth of the month of Nisan (Lev. 23:5). This is a spring month that contains the equinox, and because the Jewish months begin on the new moon, the fourteenth fell on the full moon.
The timing of the feast thus is Jewish, not pagan.

What is ultimately important is what Easter signifies today—the resurrection of Jesus—not where it came from. (“the genetic fallacy.”)
source

You can continue to wield "easter" as a bat to beat Catholics with thus inadvertently accuse Passover as named after a pagan god because you don't know any better. Now you know better. Don't harden your heart and post the same garbage next year.

Foolishness in toto in toto proven foolishness in toto by the singular Bible Truth Jesus rose from death and grave "on the day which is after the Preparation.. on the Sabbath mid-afternoon being towards before the First Day of the week.. ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES THE LORD GOD brought Israel up out of the Red Sea and Therefore thus concerning the Seventh Day Spake: IF JESUS GAVE THEM REST THEREFORE FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD REMAINS VALID FOREVER REMEMBERING THE SABBTH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY."

Hear the Word of God ACCORDING TO SPEAKING IN the Scriptures, all you Roman Catholic attempters at CHANGING GOD'S LAW AND TIMES OF WORSHIP.