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[amigo de christo]

He who eats of that bread . Lets remember that . You gotta BELIEVE .

 

[bbyrd009]

Not sure where you are going with the fire wood and idol carvings being an introduction to Christianity

well, you would just have to play with the elements a little,

14He cuts down cedars
or retrieves a cypressc or oak.
He lets it grow strong among the trees of the forest.
He plants a laurel, and the rain makes it grow.
15It serves as fuel for man.
He takes some of it to warm himself,
and he kindles a fire
and bakes his bread;
he even fashions it into a god and worships it;
he makes an idol and bows down to it.
16He burns half of it in the fire,
and he roasts meat on that half.
He eats the roast and is satisfied.
Indeed, he warms himself and says,
“Ah! I am warm; I see the fire.”
17From the rest he makes a god, his graven image.
He bows down to it and worships;
he prays to it and says,
“Save me, for you are my god.”
so, he “cuts down” cedars but “retrieves” cypress and oak, and what does each tree rep, laurel (pretty obv), bread is in there, meat, etc
plus the metre, also the wordplay in Hebrew
and not an intro to just Christianity, surely?
more like a template for “conversion” or something;
“this is how most converts go, in their search for God”
accurate for me, anyway

Christianity is primarily about now, the ever present

maybe in your definition, yes
but im not sure that that is the…most objective definition :)

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The Devil himself goes to Heaven, because he knows Jesus is real and not to mention, lost him to his craft ?

But what is the Devil himself ? just a Titch ! who leads people astray !
Does the Devil himself do the workings ? No ! It's you that do the workings ? But why ? Well because if one is not truly Saved in Christ Jesus, then one does not know what you are steeping into ? why because one is lost ! and that's why people willingly do the wrong thing by others. because they are not matured in Christ Jesus in fact.

One needs to learn how to Brush the Titch aside ! such truly is only a little small minded thing ? but Christ Jesus is a big thing for the mature mind.

But the Lost regardless can not enter into the Kingdom of God in fact ! for they are not worthy in fact ! for they are a curse regarding God ! They do not have the blessing in fact.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Devil himself goes to Heaven, because he knows Jesus is real and not to mention, lost him to his craft ?

But what is the Devil himself ? just a Titch ! who leads people astray !
Does the Devil himself do the workings ? No ! It's you that do the workings ? But why ? Well because if one is not truly Saved in Christ Jesus, then one does not know what you are steeping into ? why because one is lost ! and that's why people willingly do the wrong thing by others. because they are not matured in Christ Jesus in fact.

One needs to learn how to Brush the Titch aside ! such truly is only a little small minded thing ? but Christ Jesus is a big thing for the mature mind.

But the Lost regardless can not enter into the Kingdom of God in fact ! for they are not worthy in fact ! for they are a curse regarding God ! They do not have the blessing in fact.

If you say "in fact" one more time... - LOL (bold emphasis in quote mine)

Sorry, Mate. Such a good set-up. I love Aussie.

 

[amigo de christo]

LOVE dont tell folks they shall be saved if they deny Christ . Lets follow JESUS who said
that GOD so LOVED the world that HE sent His only begotten Son that all who DO BELIEVE WOULD BE SAVED
and those who dont , said HE , will be damned . LOVE the people harold , thus DONT LIE TO THEM .

 

[St. SteVen]

LOVE dont tell folks they shall be saved if they deny Christ

We all deny Christ every day. Are you living to your full potential in Christ?

Lets follow JESUS who said
that GOD so LOVED the world that HE sent His only begotten Son that all who DO BELIEVE WOULD BE SAVED

Right. If you really LOVE the WHOLE world, you don't incierate the vast majority of humankind.

and those who dont , said HE , will be damned

Really? Did he actually say that? Or bad translation?

LOVE the people harold , thus DONT LIE TO THEM .

Universal Redemption is one of three BIBLICAL doctrines of the final judgment. Not a lie.

 

[amigo de christo]

Todays all inclusive many path church does all to promote the go spell of it dont matter what god or path you follow
all go to heaven .
Rather odd the early church got up and KNEW the dire necessity of Christ . Folks have sold out .

 

[Patrick1966]

Rom. 8:20, 21 "Creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope, because creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God."

All children of God, everyone will be saved. Right now, things may seem futile. People believe that most of humanity will be lost by God forever. But that’s not true! Eventually, the Lord will convince everyone to believe in Him, Christ, with faith alone and be saved. We will all be delivered from this bondage of sin and into glorious liberty as the Holy Spirit will be inside each and every one of us!

Can you refer me to anything written about the "second death"?

 

[Patrick1966]

All of the earliest church leaders believed in universal reconciliation. This guy has a Tik Tok page where he shares countless writings of those leaders. At some point the church became corrupted and started teaching false doctrines, such as eternal Hell.

https://www.tiktok.com/@universalreconci...a7awAUNlOt&_r=1

 

[Patrick1966]

2 Cor. 5:14 "Christ's love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for ALL, and therefore all died."

Christ’s love saves everyone. Christ died for everyone’s sins, thus everyone will believe in Christ with faith alone and be washed of all their sins. Christ’s sacrifice is sufficient to wash away the sins of the whole world.

There are "Christian" forums that would BAN you for interpreting that all will be saved in the end.

 

[Charlie24]

James 2:13 "Mercy shall TRIUMPH OVER (exalt over) judgment."

God’s mercy saves us all. Christ will have mercy on everyone and thus save all people. Everyone will believe in Christ’s mercy with faith alone and be saved permanently :)

We have plain Scripture that places all unbelievers in the Lake of Fire.

Can you show us plain Scripture that says they get out?

 

[amadeus]

James 2:13 "Mercy shall TRIUMPH OVER (exalt over) judgment."

God’s mercy saves us all. Christ will have mercy on everyone and thus save all people. Everyone will believe in Christ’s mercy with faith alone and be saved permanently :)

Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Matt 5:7

 

[Behold]

We have plain Scripture that places all unbelievers in the Lake of Fire.

Can you show us plain Scripture that says they get out?

There is no Cross found in Hell.
Its found on earth...

There is no 2nd chance to BELIEVE In Jesus, in Hell.
Why?

Here is the thing...

God requires FAITH, in what you can't SEE.
We can't SEE Jesus, so we have to BELIEVE, as "faith is counted as righteousness... we are Justified by FAITH.

The thousands who went to Hell today, never BELIEVED.
Now they DO. !
Every person in hell, absolutely believes with all their heart in Jesus after they get there, because they can SEE that its "all true".

TOO LATE.
That is not FAITH., and God only accepts our FAITH in Christ to save us.= on EARTH.

If you are in Hell, you are past faith, as you are in HELL, and now you SEE that its "all true".
No second chance to BELIEVE "by faith"...., in that case.

 

[Space_Karen]

I think only God can judge.

Only God has the knowledge, power and will to ensure everyone is treated fairly.

For most it is more about their perceived wants, or what they think they can get away with, rather than what is fair or just.

The first step towards answering these types of questions accurately requires justice, facts, truth being #1 priorities, which is a step not everyone is willing to take.

 

[Charlie24]

There is no Cross found in Hell.
Its found on earth...

There is no 2nd chance to BELIEVE In Jesus, in Hell.
Why?

Here is the thing...

God requires FAITH, in what you can't SEE.
We can't SEE Jesus, so we have to BELIEVE, as "faith is counted as righteousness... we are Justified by FAITH.

The thousands who went to Hell today, never BELIEVED.
Now they DO. !
Every person in hell, absolutely believes with all their heart in Jesus after they get there, because they can SEE that its "all true".

TOO LATE.
That is not FAITH., and God only accepts our FAITH in Christ to save us.= on EARTH.

If you are in Hell, you are past faith, as you are in HELL, and now you SEE that its "all true".
No second chance to BELIEVE "by faith"...., in that case.

Heb. 9:27

"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:"

 

[Behold]

I think only God can judge.

Only God has the knowledge, power and will to ensure everyone is treated fairly.

There is nothing "fair" About the "just" dying for the Unjust.
There is nothing "fair" about the Beautiful sinless Holy Jesus, dying for the UNGODLY, who are all of us, before we are BORN AGAIN, as a "new Creation" In Christ".

"Salvation" is not about "fair".
Its about God's MERCY and God's GRACE, which sent God's only Son to die for SINNERS.

That is not a Fair Situation..., = that is a "God is LOVE" situation, Space_Karen.

That CROSS was not "fair" to Jesus The Christ.., as He did not deserve it..... WE DO <

Believe it.

 

[Space_Karen]

There is nothing "fair" About the "just" dying for the Unjust.

While it is not the role in greatest demand.

Didn't Jesus suffer and die for the unjust?

̶P̶e̶r̶h̶a̶p̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶a̶y̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶g̶r̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶d̶e̶?̶

Perhaps it is the only way God's will can be done*

 

[Behold]

While it is not the role in greatest demand.

Didn't Jesus suffer and die for the unjust?

̶P̶e̶r̶h̶a̶p̶s̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶o̶n̶l̶y̶ ̶w̶a̶y̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶g̶r̶e̶s̶s̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶m̶a̶d̶e̶?̶

Perhaps it is the only way God's will can be done*

By Christ's Cross is the only way we can go to Heaven, Space-Karen

John 14:6


"Amazing Grace".

 

[Michie]

Oh gee. More taking Scripture out of context and spreading a false Gospel here just as you are attempting to do at CF. Tsk tsk.

 

[rockytopva]