Abortion

[Naomanos]

I'm for a mother dying and being with Jesus rather than killing her baby and spending eternity in Hell. And that is exactly what I would do myself.

If the fetus is dying anyway and there is no chance of survival, shouldn't the mother live, especially if she has a husband and other children?

It's all about $$$. Planned Parenthood doesn't donate MILLIONS of $$$ to the Dems for no reason.

Maybe you don't realize, but when a woman goes to the hospital because of a pregnancy emergency, the hospital takes care of her, not planned parenthood. They get nothing from her having an abortion to save her life.

The NRA donates millions of dollars to the Republican party, and yet the number one killer of kids is gun violence. Does that mean anything to you?

 

[Jack]

If the fetus is dying anyway and there is no chance of survival, shouldn't the mother live, especially if she has a husband and other children?

If?

Maybe you don't realize, but when a woman goes to the hospital because of a pregnancy emergency, the hospital takes care of her, not planned parenthood. They get nothing from her having an abortion to save her life.

They don't get paid? Seriously?

The NRA donates millions of dollars to the Republican party, and yet the number one killer of kids is gun violence. Does that mean anything to you?

How utterly evasive!

 

[Naomanos]

If?

Nothing is absolute other than death. I use if because it is always if. So stop playing word games.

They don't get paid? Seriously?

Not when the abortion is done in the hospital because the woman went through the ER or had it scheduled by the hospital. She probably didn't even go to planned parenthood. Why would they get paid that they had nothing to do with?

How evasive!

Not evasive at all. You didn't have a question, but a statement and I countered your statement with a question. Will you answer it?

 

[Jack]

Nothing is absolute other than death. I use if because it is always if. So stop playing word games.



Not when the abortion is done in the hospital because the woman went through the ER or had it scheduled by the hospital. She probably didn't even go to planned parenthood. Why would they get paid that they had nothing to do with?



Not evasive at all. You didn't have a question, but a statement and I countered your statement with a question. Will you answer it?

Ok, you say kill them if the doc says so. I say doctors are FILTHY RICH sinners, liars and thieves. I say let babies live. Let's see if anyone else cares about babies' lives. The silence has been deafening.

 

[Naomanos]

Ok, you say kill them if the doc says so. I say doctors are FILTHY RICH sinners, liars and thieves. I say let babies live. Let's see if anyone else cares about babies' lives. The silence has been deafening.

Some doctors yes, but not all and to say they all are you are disparaging all doctors as evil and they are not.

I say for her to have an abortion if it will save her life because of the pregnancy and or the fetus.

I'm curious, do you go to the doctor at all?

Also, will you answer this question... The NRA donates millions of dollars to the Republican party, and yet the number one killer of kids is gun violence. Does that mean anything to you?

 

[Jack]

Some doctors yes, but not all and to say they all are you are disparaging all doctors as evil and they are not.

I say for her to have an abortion if it will save her life because of the pregnancy and or the fetus.

I'm curious, do you go to the doctor at all?

Also, will you answer this question... The NRA donates millions of dollars to the Republican party, and yet the number one killer of kids is gun violence. Does that mean anything to you?

You and I have stated what we believe. Let's see if anyone else here cares.

 

[Naomanos]

You and I have stated what we believe. Let's see if anyone else here cares.

Talk about evasion. Why won't you answer my questions? I have answered yours.

 

[Jack]

Talk about evasion. Why won't you answer my questions? I have answered yours.

Please stop goading. Isn't that why you reported me? Let's see what others have to say.

 

[Naomanos]

Please stop goading. Isn't that why you reported me? Let's see what others have to say.

I'm not goading. I am asking you to answer my questions. Did you not just do that to me earlier? I answered your question. I am asking for that same respect.

 

[Jack]

I'm not goading. I am asking you to answer my questions. Did you not just do that to me earlier? I answered your question. I am asking for that same respect.

Let's let others chime in.

 

[Naomanos]

Let's let others chime in.

Okay. Your silence to my questions is enough of an answer.

 

[Jack]

Okay. Your silence to my questions is enough of an answer.

Let's see if anyone else cares about babies' lives.

 

[Naomanos]

Let's see if anyone else cares about babies' lives.

On this board, there are some that will agree with you, and some that will agree with me.

For the record, so that there is no confusion. I support medical abortions where the mother's life is at risk. I do not support on-demand abortions/abortions for convenience/birth control reasons.

 

[Jack]

On this board, there are some that will agree with you, and some that will agree with me.

For the record, so that there is no confusion. I support medical abortions where the mother's life is at risk. I do not support on-demand abortions/abortions for convenience/birth control reasons.

I'm amazed at so little interest by others here.

 

[Rita]

You should join the discussion. Maybe you should answer my simple question.

I have given my opinion on What was being discussed. To you the OP question is an easy one to answer because you have already decided anyone that supports any kind of abortion is not a Christian.
I don’t actually support how the USA has done many things , but equally I do not agree that abortions should be a method of birth control. ( which is also done on a smaller scale over here in the U.K. )
However I am not willing to judge where a person stands before God on the basis one thing as I recognise we are on a journey when a person comes to faith and have asked the Lord Jesus Into their lives. Change and conviction is not always instant.
As far as I am concerned it’s God that decides and judges ……….

 

[Jack]

I have given my opinion on What was being discussed. To you the OP question is an easy one to answer because you have already decided anyone that supports any kind of abortion is not a Christian.
I don’t actually support how the USA has done many things , but equally I do not agree that abortions should be a method of birth control. ( which is also done on a smaller scale over here in the U.K. )
However I am not willing to judge where a person stands before God on the basis one thing as I recognise we are on a journey when a person comes to faith and have asked the Lord Jesus Into their lives. Change and conviction is not always instant.
As far as I am concerned it’s God that decides and judges ……….

Warning people is not judging them. It is better for a Christian to die and be with Jesus than to risk Hell fire for killing her baby. The NT has several warnings to Christians. Advising people to kill their baby to save themselves is as bad as killing the baby. Sinful women have choices. Totally innocent, sinless babies do not.

 

[Naomanos]

Advising people to kill their baby to save themselves is as bad as killing the baby.

And when the fetus will die anyway, should two die instead of one?

 

[Rita]

I gave my opinion, my prospective and I might add that it is the conclusion I reached after studying ethics at The London Bible college ……..after weighing up scripture throughout the Bible.
So we can agree to disagree on certain aspects of this issue.
Your whole question is not about warning, but about concluding where a person stands and asking others to make the same judgment call. That’s how I have interpreted it, that’s how it reads to me.
Hence my earlier response ……..

 

[Jack]

I gave my opinion, my prospective and I might add that it is the conclusion I reached after studying ethics at The London Bible college ……..after weighing up scripture throughout the Bible.
So we can agree to disagree on certain aspects of this issue.
Your whole question is not about warning, but about concluding where a person stands and asking others to make the same judgment call. That’s how I have interpreted it, that’s how it reads to me.
Hence my earlier response ……..

"Do you believe someone can be Christian and support / defend aborting millions of unborn babies?"

My question isn't judging anyone. It's asking for opinions. Thank you for your opinion.

 

[Jack]

And when the fetus will die anyway, should two die instead of one?

You have much more faith in doctors than I do. I know of too many deaths CAUSED by Big Pharma. Did I mention doctors / Big Pharma get filthy rich and live in mansions? $$$