Sanctification is not a Process
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Choir Loft
How does one know a bad teacher from a good one?
The good one is generally the one who makes everybody uncomfortable with his words.
The bad one is generally accepted by the crowd because he teaches them what they want to hear.
Only dead fish swim with the current.
that's me, hollering from the choir loft..
The law of God...but I get your drift.
Yes. The dog returns to its vomit and the pig to its mud. And they call it grace.
Amen.
The law is a measuring stick to measure what we are doing. The law has no power to fulfill itself. Like a voltage meter. Now a voltmeter has no power...but it reads when there IS power. So then grace can be measured by the law, because it fulfills the law.
Well by then it will be too late. They refused knowledge and correction..so God will reject them.
And technology. But yes, we have gone backward spiritually.
It takes a concerted effort in the flesh to ignore the warnings of the bible. And a lot of indoctrination.
Good post...for the most part. A little too much emphasis on law...but the law of God IS being thrown out.
I see this post as a series of "you" statements interspersed with other comments that are there to support the "you" statements. All of those "you" statements are you giving your negative opinions based on your perceptions. At best. At worst, well, people do all sorts of things.
You speak in such a way as to turn conversations away from being faced with Scripture and truth, to tell others, well, the things you tell them. Like this above.
You tell outright lies about me, and I've seen this before in ones who speak as you do. It's nothing new to me.
Here you want to make it look like I'm reveling in some victimhood. Bravo! You still don't have to talk about,
Romans 6:3-11 KJV
3) Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4) Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5) For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6) Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7) For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8) Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9) Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10) For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11) Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Have you been baptized into Christ?
Much love!
The good teacher is Jesus Christ ( there is none other good but one Jesus Christ, the good shepherd who gave HIs lfie for the sheep, all other are thieves and robbers ( not possible for them to be good teachers, no matter how good they sound or bad)
Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
John 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.
19 For your obedience is come abroad unto all men. I am glad therefore on your behalf: but yet I would have you wise unto that which is good, and simple concerning evil.
Isn't that what you implied? Dual identity, Ireland and SA, why, is this "plausible deniability"?
Much love!
And of course you avoided answering. Now where have I seen that before . . . ?
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Episkopos said: "I don't think that Gordon 7 is here to hear you complain about how rough you've had it. You poor thing...
But he is right that you have ignored sound teaching for these 10 years. And you have taken correction of the outer man religious posturing...personally because you want to be saved without going to the cross. You want to keep the "best" of the flesh."
If I am right that Mark has ignored for ten years, am I right that Episkopos has ignored for the little while I was here ?
Yes the man who began saying quickly I was a breath of fresh air, then changed his mind when he saw I was not for him ( after all)
We cant go to the cross as this guy keeps advising, unless we follow ( and believe in our heart) that the cross of Christ is done by deed and truth, which is the power and wisdom of God ( not by words and wisdom of men n forums instead)
We cant see the power of the cross in words, ( what they teach you for 10 years on forums) we see the power of God in demonstration of the Spirit and power ( DEMONSTRATION IS IN DEED AND TRUTH, NOT IN WORD AND TONGUE)
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1 Corinthians 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
But he is right that you have ignored sound teaching for these 10 years. And you have taken correction of the outer man religious posturing...personally because you want to be saved without going to the cross. You want to keep the "best" of the flesh."
If I am right that Mark has ignored for ten years, am I right that Episkopos has ignored for the little while I was here ?
Yes the man who began saying quickly I was a breath of fresh air, then changed his mind when he saw I was not for him ( after all)
We cant go to the cross as this guy keeps advising, unless we follow ( and believe in our heart) that the cross of Christ is done by deed and truth, which is the power and wisdom of God ( not by words and wisdom of men n forums instead)
We cant see the power of the cross in words, ( what they teach you for 10 years on forums) we see the power of God in demonstration of the Spirit and power ( DEMONSTRATION IS IN DEED AND TRUTH, NOT IN WORD AND TONGUE)
1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1 Corinthians 2:5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1 Corinthians 2:4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
It's nice to know you are aware of these things. I think everyone who participates in this sort of debating were aware of the various logical fallacies, being able to spot them as they are employed.
Much love!
Why the curiosity? Why all the questioning? Why Why Why?????
Maybe it doesn't concern you????
They only offer enticing words of men's wisdom. ( what else can they offer /)
But God has I will destroyed the wisdom of the wise, and has bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
They cannot display the power wisdom and Spirit of God on a forum, that is why they instead are there to use enticing words of men's wisdom, and deny the power thereof through that. ( TURN AWAY FROM THEM IS TOLD TO US)
1 Corinthians 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
1 Thessalonians 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
But God has I will destroyed the wisdom of the wise, and has bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
They cannot display the power wisdom and Spirit of God on a forum, that is why they instead are there to use enticing words of men's wisdom, and deny the power thereof through that. ( TURN AWAY FROM THEM IS TOLD TO US)
1 Corinthians 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
1 Thessalonians 1:5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
2 Timothy 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
People speak poorly, people speak well. Some are very practiced with their words. But even on a medium where we can write and rewrite and revise all we want before we post, well, I'll say this. I can know if someone's words agree with Scripture, and I can know when the way they address others does not.
I like something I heard many years ago . . .
"Camel knees" James . . . the writer of these words, "Faith without works is dead, says . . .
"Don't tell me you are a Christian! I will come to your home to live for a month, and then, I will tell you whether or not you are a Christian."
Much love!
To what end? Do you know?Because the makeup is too artful.
I am still just giving my best guesses.
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Does it concern you? I was addressing someone else. But this IS a public forum. So feel free!
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OK. My hope is that she would answer that question for herself. I don't need to hear the answer, she is who needs to understand why she acts as she does.
Much love!
Wrangler
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