23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

[robert derrick]

Your MO is to

Show every step of the way where you either twist Scripture, or the words of others.

It has nothing to do with correcting you, since you are not correctable. It's just an ongoing exercise in disciplined correction and reasoning. And it's good for me, because I learn more certainly the truth of Scripture by accurately refuting errors.

. I have started a thread to expose your error.

I'm honored, I can't wait to see how much more can corrected. I enjoy it. Thank you.

 

[robert derrick]

Were there woman and children destroyed in Sodom, Noah's day and amongst the Amalekites in 1 Samuel 15:7?

And here you see why no one answers your demands, because you don't care about an answer, but only ignore them.

That's why I only answer because I want to, in order to once again show the right reasoning of what is written. I enjoy it.

But looking for someone like you to even acknowledge it, is not my concern.

 

[robert derrick]

Jesus is not coming back to save the next time

Be sure to tell Him that in this spirit-only reign of yours over heaven and earth.

(that was His purpose the first time),

Both times.

He is coming back to judge.

True. Not just to condemn as some falsely teach and hope for, and are eager to watch Him from the sidelines execute them all.

He will rescue all of His elect and damn the rest to the Lake of Fire.

I just wonder which of the two you look forward to most.

And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Jesus Christ comes to save as much flesh as He can. Your prophesied christ comes to destroy as much flesh as he can:

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

 

[robert derrick]

Address the inspired text instead of twisting it.

And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

Jesus Christ comes to save as much flesh as He can. Your prophesied christ comes to destroy as much flesh as he can:

The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

This is the inspired text addressed as written.

 

[WPM]

And here you see why no one answers your demands, because you don't care about an answer, but only ignore them.

That's why I only answer because I want to, in order to once again show the right reasoning of what is written. I enjoy it.

But looking for someone like you to even acknowledge it, is not my concern.

LOL. This is such a simple question for ordinary Christians. You cannot answer straight and honestly because it would totally decimate your whole argument. Checkmate!

 

[robert derrick]

LOL. This is such a simple question for ordinary Christians. You cannot answer straight and honestly because it would totally decimate your whole argument. Checkmate!

I.e. I already did answer. Obviously, you don't even look at the answers of others. Much less respond to them.

 

[WPM]

I.e. I already did answer. Obviously, you don't even look at the answers of others. Much less respond to them.

I will repeat, as you are a master at avoidance: Were there woman and children destroyed in Sodom, Noah's day and amongst the Amalekites in 1 Samuel 15:7?

 

[WPM]

I wonder why you are avoiding these simple questions? Obviously they expose your whole theology. I will keep repeating until you address these:

Did God "make Hitler blush" in Sodom and Gommorrah and the other 3 cities He destroyed in total? Did God "make Hitler blush" when He destroyed all human flesh in Noah's day apart from 8 souls?

1Sa 15:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
1Sa 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

1Sa 15:7 And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.

Does God killing men, women and children "make Hitler blush" here?

 

[Timtofly]

You just confirmed my thesis. Rev 20 does not locate Jesus on earth during the millennium. That is because it relates to the intra-Advent period.

You mean your circular reasoning? The camp of the saints is not on earth, because Christ is not on earth, thus Satan and his army are not on earth either.

 

[WPM]

You mean your circular reasoning? The camp of the saints is not on earth, because Christ is not on earth, thus Satan and his army are not on earth either.

Really? This seems to be another new theory you have invented that no one else holds!

Where are the camp of the saints then?

 

[jeffweeder]

Really? Here is another new one you have invented! Where are they then?

Do not expect a straight forward answer Lol.
How utterly bizarre.

 

[Timtofly]

Really? This seems to be another new theory you have invented that no one else holds!

Where are the camp of the saints then?

With Jesus Christ.

Where is Jesus Christ?

 

[Truth7t7]

Really? This seems to be another new theory you have invented that no one else holds!

Where are the camp of the saints then?

The camp is Jerusalem, and the saints are the prophets returned in the (Two Witnesses) something you don't believe in your reformed preterist eschatology

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You mean your circular reasoning? The camp of the saints is not on earth, because Christ is not on earth, thus Satan and his army are not on earth either.

Satan is the god of this world! His hosts are here and we are commanded to put the armour of god on to defeat the schemes of the devil

 

[WPM]

The camp is Jerusalem, and the saints are the prophets returned in the (Two Witnesses) something you don't believe in your reformed preterist eschatology

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

You make it up as you go and then name-call anyone who disagrees with your speculations. Not smart!

 

[covenantee]

something you don't believe in your reformed preterist eschatology

You cannot name one Reformer who espoused preterism.

 

[WPM]

You cannot name one Reformer who espoused preterism.

Why should he let the truth get in the way of childishness?

 

[Truth7t7]

You cannot name one Reformer who espoused preterism.

Does reformed eschatology today teach 70AD fulfillment, 100% yes its (Preterism) from its father, Roman Catholic Jesuit (Luis De Alcazar)

 

[Truth7t7]

You make it up as you go and then name-call anyone who disagrees with your speculations. Not smart!

How do you explain the (Two Witnesses) that have bodies that die, and are raised to stand on their feet as seen below in scripture?

The standard reformed eschatology teaching is (Two Witnesses) represent the (Old/New Testaments) of scripture?

That seen below appears to be living bodies on earth, that are killed as a literal world watches?

I look forward to your response in explanation of your interpretation in the (Two Witnesses) seen below?

Revelation 11:3-12KJV
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.
12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

 

[covenantee]

Does reformed eschatology today teach 70AD fulfillment, 100% yes its (Preterism) from its father, Roman Catholic Jesuit (Luis De Alcazar)

If it doesn't teach what the Reformers taught, then it is not legitimate reformed eschatology.

Neither it nor you can name one Reformer who espoused preterism.

You, on the other hand, espouse the futurist fabrications of the apostate papacy's counter-Reformation Jesuit Francisco Ribera.