How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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ChristisGod

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My authority is the living God. Yours is found in a human religious appreciation for a book. You think salvation is based on the deadness of the written letters...whereas these point to a life of experience with God. If you had ANY faith at all you would realize that a relationship with the living God gives you the experience of what is testified by the writers in the New Testament.

Look what Paul said...

2 Cor. 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life.

The letter kills???? Paul, as an able minister of the Way that is on Christ, demonstrated life in the Spirit...not just a religious appreciation for the written word.

I know this is many miles over your head to even consider this. But the bible YOU SAY you venerate...which you don't.....is being used by you and others to negate the contents thereof.

Continue to fool yourself and the simple among us....but these things will be shortly brought to light.
see below you are fooling no one here- more contradictions.

 

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"Do you not have the spirit of Cain? And there you go again. The Accuser of the brethren. Putting a question mark at the end, does not change these words. Yesterday, you gave a testimony of your second experience. This was very telling to me. That voice coming through you was not that of The Lord. You talk about faith and how no one has it and yet when one is truly born again(from above) the gift of faith comes with The One that enters in. And that one is The Holy Spirit. And when He enters in, He does not leave, but finishes the work that He begins. In this thread that you started, are those that are truly born again(from above). They are my brothers and my sisters in Christ Jesus. All are in different stages of this amazing journey. Cain was a liar,a killer, and a thief. He was the first fruits of his father the devil. And you dare imply that a child of God has a spirit of Cain. Woe unto you. I once knew a man, that I watched(with the gift of discernment of spirits) as the enemy(a demon) entered in and out of him. This was possible, as he had not yet laid down his life at the foot of the cross. And when he went out in public he was seeing demons in other people. He was convinced of it. These were ordinary people. They had no demons, but it was he who had the demon that would enter in and out. The demon made him see the opposite of what was true.(upside down) And he thought he was a prophet as well. It is written that one will rise that will try to change time and seasons. You see, the devil likes to change times and seasons. He likes to take us back before these words "It is finished" Jesus said, "It is finished". Personally John, I would like to see you, sitting at table at the wedding feast. There are others here, I see that will be there. Blessings!
yes falsely accusing all the brothers/sisters in Christ here on a daily basis. you will know them by their fruits.
 

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see below you are fooling no one here- more contradictions.

Sure...quote what is meant for the OT..which you claim is obsolete. You claim the words of Jesus are also obsolete...that's the dispensationalist speaking. Then you take away even from what Paul is saying....that being the cessationist in you.

So with all your religious bents...you have more scriptures on the cutting room floor than what you esteem as valuable.

Do what you want. Read what you want. It's your bible...cut it up as you wish. But don't come here with your unbelief to pollute these threads.
 
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You forgot faith. Reading the bible to prop up your religious expectations is not faith...it is merely a belief about something. That has no power to save you. Only an actual faith makes your life look like what you read about in the bible. Just reading a bible doesn't justify you. It's not hearers that are justified but doers who are justified.

So you can do your faux virtue signalling all day and for the rest of your life...but the one who is tossing the scriptures aside is you.

I believe God while I read the bible so that He comes to me. Why is that seen as wrong? Do you not have the spirit of Cain?

You should consider your own ways.
Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ/God. Refuted once again from the Bible the source of truth which you reject.

Romans 10
The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!- the good news is the gospel- the gospel is what saves.

You reject the gospel.
 

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Sure...quote what is meant for the OT..which you claim is obsolete. You claim the words of Jesus are also obsolete...that's the dispensationalist speaking. Then you take away even from what Paul is saying....that being the cessationist in you.

So with all your religious bents...you have more scriptures on the cutting room floor than what you esteem as valuable.

Do what you want. Read what you want. It's your bible...cut it up as you wish. But don't come here with your unbelief to pollute these threads.
more diversion, rabbit trails and equivocating. you are so predictable. no one is buying the false teachings you are peddling. stick to youtube lol.
 
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Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ/God. Refuted once again from the Bible the source of truth which you reject.

Romans 10
The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!- the good news is the gospel- the gospel is what saves.

You reject the gospel.
I reject your religiously bent modern gospel you justify yourself with.
 

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I reject your religiously bent modern gospel you justify yourself with.
of course you reject the gospel of your salvation hence you are not born again since the new birth comes from the word of God, the gospel message.
 

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of course you reject the gospel of your salvation hence you are not born again since the new birth comes from the word of God, the gospel message.
All religious nonsense. I only reject the modern gospel of your ego salvation...is all.
 

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yes falsely accusing all the brothers/sisters in Christ here on a daily basis. you will know them by their fruits.
TO epi the bible is just some book , to epi HIS WORDS , however come directly by revelation of GOD .
SEE the problem yet . The man is very full of pride .
 

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TO epi the bible is just some book , to epi HIS WORDS , however come directly by revelation of GOD .
SEE the problem yet . The man is very full of pride .
All false witness. I see God as greater than the bible. To you...the bible IS God. And your reading yourself into it is just a means of justifying yourself by ranting and raving like a lunatic...using bible sounding terminology to cover up what you are really doing. And the simple here like that...because they do the same thing.
 
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All false witness. I see God as greater than the bible. To you...the bible IS God. And your reading yourself into it is just a means of justifying yourself by ranting and raving like a lunatic...using bible sounding terminology to cover up what you are really doing. And the simple here like that...because they do the same thing.
See proverbs 6 the six things the Lord hates- bearing false witness and causing division among the brethren- your forte.

as usual you are projecting and equivocating.
 

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See proverbs 6 the six things the Lord hates- bearing false witness and causing division among the brethren- your forte.

as usual you are projecting and equivocating.
More verbal diarrhea. Go elsewhere. Who cares what you think? You have already shown where you are at? Why repeat the same thing over and aver? Go to the sycophant threads...
 

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In your religiously bent opinion. Of course you will deny anything that doesn't confirm you own religious direction. Because you are obviously ignorant of anything ALIVE concerning God, I hope you will not blaspheme the Spirit.

Not everyone gets a gift of faith...just like not all prophesy. Read your bible. Stop pretending to be more than a beginner in these matters.



We have to go to Him to finish what He started IN us. Our completion is in Him. In Him is no sin. Not in us.

Learn something. Read the bible without the religious blinders on.


Very few indeed...those who see the active work of the Spirit as wrong...have never known anything of the eternal reality one is born again into. There is a lot of American "born again" ideology...but God is NOT known of these.


Cain is also a brother. God didn't condemn him. He set His mark on him. There are as many Cains as Abels in the church. Those who come to God with repentance will be accepted by God.

Read the bible again. God says...will you not be accepted??? Learn something while you peruse these threads.


That is false...and is called the "serpent-seed" heresy. Would God offer Cain to be accepted if he was only evil? Many here are like Cain. And like Korah. You have to ask yourself "Lord, is it I?"

Cain represents the outer man that wants what the inner man is being offered. If you understood that...well then you would also be delivered from your own Cain spirit. But will you???? Having accepted a free sacrifice....are you willing to offer yourself as a living sacrifice to be in turn accepted by God?


How dare you deny that Cain and Abel are not from the same father?


Sounds like you are posturing here.

My warning is to those who have so much religious certainty that they are ready to be rejected...like the sons of the kingdom were rejected before them.

All this religious posturing can only come from a Pharisaical self-justification. My council is for much more humility and godly fear. If you read the bible more carefully you would agree with the emphasis on fear and humility....rather than all this religious outrage.
Who are you to judge O man. Who are you to accuse O man.
 

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Who are you to judge O man. Who are you to accuse O man.
Are there NO mature people here who can hold a decent conversation? This thread is not meant as a nursery. Go elsewhere...there are plenty of milky threads.
 

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Are there NO mature people here who can hold a decent conversation? This thread is not meant as a nursery. Go elsewhere...there are plenty of milky threads.
show us some maturity instead of bullying others and putting them down and mocking them. set the example for others to follow.
 
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You think you can get rid of me by your cyber bullying tactics lol ?
Why are you cyber-bullying me? It's because you are convicted that your flesh is enslaving you...yet you can't be honest enough to admit it...so you send yourself back to me for more correction.

but you have to take responsibility for your own rebellious ego. You need to say STOP...

I'm not going to try out-bullying your outer man bully.

Have faith. Go to the cross.
 
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