Heart Talks on Holiness

[Eternally Grateful]

The opposite is true...and you reveal yourself as someone who is looking for approval from men. The truth stands whether people receive it or not. You are a false prophet that has no discernment at all. Having NOT experienced the deeper walk or anything eternal...makes you unqualified to judge those who have. I discern the pettiness of a wounded pride in your response.

Judge not lest you be judged. (I write this to others as I know your own motivation.)

Yawn

you say judge not lest ye be judged, while you yourself judge.

Another hypocritical comment

 

[Laurina]

Yawn

you say judge not lest ye be judged, while you yourself judge.

Another hypocritical comment

1 Cor. 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.

 

[amigo de christo]

1 Cor. 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.

Anyone who can disregaurd the dire need for faith in Christ is not spiritual at all my friend .

 

[Episkopos]

Anyone who can disregaurd the dire need for faith in Christ is not spiritual at all my friend .

One does not even have to be a spiritual person to discern religious bigotry. YOU indeed need to have faith in Christ...and stop just pointing Him out. You are in fact pointing in the wrong direction...since you don't know Christ...only a religious representation of Him.

You are constantly using the Lord's name in vain. And you think that....along with knowledge, wisdom and understanding...is nothing to consider as being important. To people here that is not offensive...as they play in their religious puddles. But it is offensive to God.

Anyone can grandstand, virtue-signal, be sanctimonious....etc Only religious hypocrites do such things. Only indoctrinated people DON'T see that.

Be a troll if you want. This is a free forum.

 

[Laurina]

Anyone who can disregaurd the dire need for faith in Christ is not spiritual at all my friend .

Who is disregarding the dire need for faith in Christ??

 

[Episkopos]

Who is disregarding the dire need for faith in Christ??

That's just an ego religionist saying..."look at me"...("I know how to continuously say things to puff up my outer man!")

But there is no love there...no truth...just an empty religious parroting of slogans that take the Lord's name in vain.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

1 Cor. 2:15 But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.

If you think epi is spiritual. Well.. I do not know what to say

You can't be spiritual when you reject the gospel of Christ. And think you achieve salvation by your deeds..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Who is disregarding the dire need for faith in Christ??

It depends on what your faith is in.

Many people claim they have faith in christ. But it is only knowledge and mental ascent..

Their faith is in self.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

One does not even have to be a spiritual person to discern religious bigotry. YOU indeed need to have faith in Christ...and stop just pointing Him out. You are in fact pointing in the wrong direction...since you don't know Christ...only a religious representation of Him.

You are constantly using the Lord's name in vain. And you think that....along with knowledge, wisdom and understanding...is nothing to consider as being important. To people here that is not offensive...as they play in their religious puddles. But it is offensive to God.

Anyone can grandstand, virtue-signal, be sanctimonious....etc Only religious hypocrites do such things. Only indoctrinated people DON'T see that.

Be a troll if you want. This is a free forum.

lol

This actually makes me laugh

Once again, You teach religious views. Look at me God look what I have done..

If anyone here is a troll.. well lets just say, again, look in the mirror.

 

[Episkopos]

If you think epi is spiritual. Well.. I do not know what to say

You can't be spiritual when you reject the gospel of Christ. And think you achieve salvation by your deeds..

I realize there must be liars always present...but why are you so eager to volunteer?

You don't understand spiritual things...so you are as misguided in judging me as the Pharisees were in judging the early disciples.

There is very little of what is spiritual in Christ on the forum. I am militant in that regard because of my calling and gifting. (Mock away you mockers)

I reject YOUR gospel...I promote and preach the true gospel of Christ. Your gospel is false and carnal.

You are confused about a LOT of things. One of them is that you miss the two levels of salvation.

I preach both a faith ONLY approach to holiness..... No one can walk as Jesus walked unless they are empowered from heaven by grace through faith (which you deny)

You deny the power of grace through faith. You deny the cross.

.....and I ALSO preach (multi-dimensional biblical thinking which your brain fizzles out on)...that the righteous are saved by both faith AND works. (read James and stop lying and being against the bible)

Not so the saints. The saints walk in the faith OF Christ...NOT their own faith.

So in your rantings do you ever consider that I preach a multi-dimensional understanding of God's words...a plurality of the WAYS of God. Of course not...way too much thinking for you!

You have not known God's ways. And you have to take the responsibility for that on yourself...rather than accusing me based on your own ignorance.

 

[Laurina]

If you think epi is spiritual. Well.. I do not know what to say

...and you didn't, yet you still posted

You can't be spiritual when you reject the gospel of Christ.

Who's rejecting the gospel of Christ??

And think you achieve salvation by your deeds..

Don't we?? The deed of repentance, the deed of loving God, and the deed of loving your neighbour as yourself. The deed of Able's sacrifice received God's attention and God's favour. So, the question is are you Cain or Able??

Colossians 3:23 "And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;"

Romans 2:6 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds:"

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I realize there must be liars always present...but why are you so eager to volunteer?

You don't understand spiritual things...so you are as misguided in judging me as the Pharisees were in judging the early disciples.

You are like the pharisees. The fact you can;t see that and keep trying to tell everyone else they are pharisees. just proves my point.

There is very little of what is spiritual in Christ on the forum. I am militant in that regard because of my calling and gifting. (Mock away you mockers)

Your militant in trying to spread your false gospel.. You reject that we are saved from the PENALTY OF SIN.. Hence you reject not openly the purpose of the cross. But the power of the cross to save lives. If you think you will get to heaven while still under the penalty of sin. You need to think again

I reject YOUR gospel...I promote and preach the true gospel of Christ. Your gospel is false and carnal.

I have no gospel. I promote the gospel of christ. I reject your self righteous gospel of works..

You are confused about a LOT of things. One of them is that you miss the two levels of salvation.

Your saved or your not saved.

There is no levels of salvation. This is just another one of you false teachings.. You can;t take yourself out of the equation.. Its all about you..

I preach both a faith ONLY approach to holiness. No one can walk as Jesus walked unless they are empowered from heaven by grace through faith (which you deny)

If you taught the faith only approach to holiness..You would teach the faith only salvation where one is born again, and given eternal life. and given the righteousness of Christ.

You preach faith only as long as you work. Your faith is in yourself not God.

You deny the power of grace through faith. You deny the cross.

You deny this my friend.. Your trying to earn grace.. Grace can not be earned my friend.. Grace saves.. There is no salvation is your gospel

But I ALSO preach (multi-dimensional biblical thinking which your brain fizzles out on)...that the righteous are saved by both faith AND works. (read James and stop lying and being against the bible)

And here we go.

James did not contradioct paul. The people james spoke to CLAIMED TO HAVE FAITH.. they never had faith..True faith will cause works.. True faith will cause people to walk in the spirit and do things God asks.. it is the false faith that is void of works. their faith is dead.

Either way, thanks for proving you teach a works based Gospel. Modern day phariseeism..

Not so the saints. The saints walk in the faith OF Christ...NOT their own faith.

So in your rantings do you ever consider that I preach a multi-dimensional ...a plurality to the WAYS of God.

You have not known God's ways. And you have to take the responsibility for that on yourself...rather than accusing me in your own ignorance.

Dude all I am doing is calling out a false gospel of works.. and the one who promotes it..

And your hypocritical ways and self righteous rantings of how great you are..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

...and you didn't, yet you still posted



Who's rejecting the gospel of Christ??

Epi does. And if you follow epi. You do

Don't we?? The deed of repentance, the deed of loving God, and the deed of loving your neighbour as yourself. The deed of Able's sacrifice received God's attention and God's favour.

Colossians 3:23 "And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;"

Romans 2:6 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds:"

If your not born again, if your not saved from the penalty of sin. Your still dead in your sin.

The wage of sin is death. the gift of God is eternal life.

Your not going to be made alive while still under the penalty of sin.. No matter how many times Epi claims you are..

He is in error

You have to be born again. If you want to know how to be born again, Read John 3. Jesus tells nicodemus how it is done. Epi rejects it every time he is shown what John 3 says.. As does his friend.. If you do the same. I will pray for you also.

 

[ChristisGod]

Not so. You maybe need a flesh vacation.

You are in need of the new birth so you can do the following;

1- walk in the spirit
2- be filled with the spirit
3- not quench the spirit
4- not grieve the spirit
5- live by the spirit
6- be baptized by the spirit

until then you will continue to live in the flesh, produce the deeds of the flesh and bear the fruit of a bad tree,

we will pray the Lord whom you now reject and His gospel you reject will grant you repentance that leads to life.

hope this helps !!!

 

[ChristisGod]

Yawn

you say judge not lest ye be judged, while you yourself judge.

Another hypocritical comment

Its the pot calling kettle black and projecting as usual.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are in need of the new birth so you can do the following;

1- walk in the spirit
2- be filled with the spirit
3- not quench the spirit
4- not grieve the spirit
5- live by the spirit
6- be baptized by the spirit

until then you will continue to live in the flesh, produce the deeds of the flesh and bear the fruit of a bad tree,

we will pray the Lord whom you now reject and His gospel you reject will grant you repentance that leads to life.

hope this helps !!!

the pharisees thought they were righteous too. And they walked on Zion..

When we think we are righteous, or that we can be righteous, we will never repent and recieve Gods grace..

 

[Laurina]

And think you achieve salvation by your deeds..

Don't we?? The deed of repentance, the deed of loving God, and the deed of loving your neighbour as yourself. The deed of Able's sacrifice received God's attention and God's favour. So, the question is are you Cain or Able??

Colossians 3:23 "And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;"

Romans 2:6 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds:"

You did not address this... you went on to say....

If your not born again

To be born again, one must draw God's attention, no?? How do we draw God's attention....by our faith and our deeds!!! Able succeeded to draw God's attention, now we must also do so in order to be born again, to be born of the Spirit. So, I will ask again, are you Cain or Able?

John 3:20, 21
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

 

[ChristisGod]

That's just an ego religionist saying..."look at me"..

kind of like a man self proclaiming he is a prophet sent by God on forums and youtube.

next.......

hope this helps !!!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You did not address this... you went on to say....

Because they did not refute what I said.

Gods people, those who have been born again, do Good works. It is not a requirement, it is a by product of being born again.
col 3: 23 has nothing to do with being born again. so there is nothing to comment on

To be born again, one must draw God's attention, no??

No. God draws YOUR ATTENTION

How do we draw God's attention....by our faith and our deeds!!!

No.. Our deeds are as filthy rags. Our deeds are meaningless and in fact sin if we are not born again.

The pharisees thought they got Gods attention by their deeds. all religions teach this, This is what separates religion from true Christianity.
You can not pay for your sin by your deeds. the penalty of sin is death, thats why you must be born again

Able succeeded to draw God's attention, now we must also do so in order to be born again, to be born of the Spirit. So, I will ask again, are you Cain or Able?

John 3:20, 21
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

I am neither cain nor able

I was a lost sinner. who was dead in sin, Who God DREW TO HIMSELF. and I repented and recieved his free gift of salvation. Not because I was worthy, Not because of my deeds. But because of the work of Jesus on the cross.

John 3 -
10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should [c]not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Please tell me wher Jesus told nicodemus it is his (our deeds) that makes us born again? and gives us eternal life

 

[GTW27]

The opposite is true...and you reveal yourself as someone who is looking for approval from men. The truth stands whether people receive it or not. You are a false prophet that has no discernment at all. Having NOT experienced the deeper walk or anything eternal...makes you unqualified to judge those who have. I discern the pettiness of a wounded pride in your response.

Judge not lest you be judged. (I write this to others as I know your own motivation.)

The devil has no power over those who love. Your own words have judged you John. I tried to warn you. Now I turn it over To Him that is Faithful and True. Bless you John!