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Liberals love accusing others of HATRED while they spew their own.
I know that is true. But I think we need to be smarter and be more careful with the word "hate". Now days it feels like, whenever someone disagrees with someone's view, then that equals hate. I honestly don't care what LGBTQ people do as long as they aren't messing up things. But we all know they are trying to change to things. They want everyone to side with them. As a bible believer I can't side with them. That doesn't mean I hate them as in I want them all dead. But they choose to interpret it that way. The Bible says whenever I lust after a woman it's the same as me committing sin with her. I have lots of trouble with that sin, but I don't go around flaunting it, and asking everyone to accept it, and join with me in my lusts. I see and feel it as an on going problem that I wish was easier to solve.
Taken
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Is stating support for individuals Freewill and Not supporting infringing on an other’s property confusing statements for you to comprehend?
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Love is doing what is Right for another, regardless of the consequences.
Hate is not the Opposite of Love.
Hate is a STRONG dislike.
I think that is where the spin off cliche’ “Hate the sin, Love the sinner” came from.
Scripture teaches us Natural Born persons are all Dead in their Sin.
And it is while a person IS Dead in their Sin, that the Lord Gods Offering is to Forgive, Cover and Forget their Sin….And the Caveat…
“IF” an individual so desires to Accept the Lord Gods Offering according to His Terms…
Aka, His Order and Way.
Col 2:
[13] And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
Many will be called to Accept His offering, Few will choose to Accept His offering,
And Some will Want His offering, ON THEIR Terms. That is a fail.
TinMan
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CadyandZoe
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What is LGBTQ?
It's an acronym, an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of the words associated with deviant sexual behaviors.
The word is an umbrella term indicating groups of people blinded by the enemy, who think of themselves in terms of their sexuality rather than other, more noble, honorable, glorious, and dignified qualities, attributes, and achievements.
What do I mean?
To help explain the concept, consider the dilemma of Christian artists. A while back, the big question among Christian artists was this. "Do I want to be known as an "artist" or a "Christian?" Well, I would think that all Christians want to be known as Christians, but the question on their mind was, "Do I want people to value my work because I am a Christian, or because my work has merit?"
Do we listen to Christian music because it's "Christian" or because it's good music that just happens to be played by a Christian artist?
What about a "gay" artist? Should we buy songs because they were played by gay people or should we buy songs because they are good music, played by people who just happen to be gay? Same issue.
Fundamentally, the issue is one of individuality: the dignity of the individual, the merits of his or her work, the praise of individual achievement, and the recognition of individual suffering and struggle.
Is the painting good because it was painted by a gay man or because it is quality workmanship?
Consider the man who loves his wife and kids. He protects them and provides for them and he never cheats on his wife. He is a good father and a loving husband. How does he want to be remembered? Does he want people to say, "He was a man," a quality shared by half the population, or would he like to hear "he was a good man"? He was a good father, he was a faithful husband, and he cared for his family, all of which are distinct qualities unique to him personally.
Now, consider a gay man who happens to be an artist. Does he want to be known for being gay or for being an artist? Does he want people to buy his artwork because he is gay or due to the fact that his picture is worthy of praise and appreciation?
Our culture is dehumanizing the individual, robbing him or her of personal dignity, honor, and glory. Our culture is attempting to deprive a person of positive human qualities. Our culture relegates the LGBTQ community to the status of nonhuman animals to deprive them of shared moral codes. This way of thinking obfuscates the truth about individual achievement and individual responsibility. The LARP is a narrative in which all people who aren't straight are being denied civil rights, while at the same time, trapping people into a dehumanizing cage.
It's an acronym, an abbreviation formed from the initial letters of the words associated with deviant sexual behaviors.
The word is an umbrella term indicating groups of people blinded by the enemy, who think of themselves in terms of their sexuality rather than other, more noble, honorable, glorious, and dignified qualities, attributes, and achievements.
What do I mean?
To help explain the concept, consider the dilemma of Christian artists. A while back, the big question among Christian artists was this. "Do I want to be known as an "artist" or a "Christian?" Well, I would think that all Christians want to be known as Christians, but the question on their mind was, "Do I want people to value my work because I am a Christian, or because my work has merit?"
Do we listen to Christian music because it's "Christian" or because it's good music that just happens to be played by a Christian artist?
What about a "gay" artist? Should we buy songs because they were played by gay people or should we buy songs because they are good music, played by people who just happen to be gay? Same issue.
Fundamentally, the issue is one of individuality: the dignity of the individual, the merits of his or her work, the praise of individual achievement, and the recognition of individual suffering and struggle.
Is the painting good because it was painted by a gay man or because it is quality workmanship?
Consider the man who loves his wife and kids. He protects them and provides for them and he never cheats on his wife. He is a good father and a loving husband. How does he want to be remembered? Does he want people to say, "He was a man," a quality shared by half the population, or would he like to hear "he was a good man"? He was a good father, he was a faithful husband, and he cared for his family, all of which are distinct qualities unique to him personally.
Now, consider a gay man who happens to be an artist. Does he want to be known for being gay or for being an artist? Does he want people to buy his artwork because he is gay or due to the fact that his picture is worthy of praise and appreciation?
Our culture is dehumanizing the individual, robbing him or her of personal dignity, honor, and glory. Our culture is attempting to deprive a person of positive human qualities. Our culture relegates the LGBTQ community to the status of nonhuman animals to deprive them of shared moral codes. This way of thinking obfuscates the truth about individual achievement and individual responsibility. The LARP is a narrative in which all people who aren't straight are being denied civil rights, while at the same time, trapping people into a dehumanizing cage.
TinMan
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What lifestyle?
You don't like seeing them on TV....what are you disagreeing with here? their existence?
Watching what they "do publicly" makes you sick. What are you watching? Grocery shopping? being a couple? taking the kids out? Are these things disagreeable? How would you respond to someone saying "seeing black people in public makes me sick" ?
CadyandZoe
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Two things:
First, people who practice sexual deviancy feel guilty and they hate themselves for the pain they conceal. This is called "projection". Such folks hate themselves, projecting that negative emotion onto others in order to avoid the pain it causes. We don't hate them; they hate themselves and they blame others for the pain they feel.
Second, homosexuality is NOT a state of being; it's a behavior. And some behaviors are more shameful than others. It is dehumanizing to indoctrinate young people against feeling shame. People ought to feel shame when it is appropriate.
TinMan
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You are the one defining a minority in terms of sex.
Usually people do this to dehumanize and vilify the people they are talking about. You imply that LGBT people are just sexual animals, sub human and therefore deserving of your contempt.
Is there gay music?
Would people who buy Christian music do so if it wasn't known as such? Do they go out looking for such music specifically? its seems they do. Would these same people refuse to buy music from an artist they know is LGBT? Many would. So it seems that in this particular group the quality of music isn't of real concern.
Consider a gay man who loves his husband and kids. etc. Isn't the answer the same?
Something you did in this very post.
Like the noble, honorable, glorious, and dignified qualities you apparently thing LGBT people have
Are we pretending that LGBT people don't have to fight tooth and nail to have the same civil right straits enjoy?
TinMan
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They do? And how did you discover this wonderful insight?
Yes it's called projection but i don't think you realize you are the one engaging in projection.
projection
So you are trying to say that someone cant be gay or lesbians without having sex? SO what were they when they were virgins?
What were you when you were a virgin?
Yeah that is what homophobes do.
Behold
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A.) Not according to God.
And that's the bottom line that you dont care about, TinMan, and a few others who have shown up to argue for "PRIDE".
Listen,
My Home is in Israel.
I can take you to the very place where God burned this filthy perversion into black Ash in the Rock.
Its not a myth.
Its a warning against perverted sexuality. = spreading.
Its a clear message.
Its a Biblical FACT.
God is more than just LOVE.....He's HOLY.
See, i told you before, a few times.... that it can be that something that is immoral and perverted.... is "legalized"..... but that does not make it right or moral or natural or normal or True.
See, God has the final say on SEXUALITY and MORALITY, not the Gay Agenda, not the Supreme Court Judges and not your opinion.
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CadyandZoe
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Did I make up the term? No.
Usually, but no in this case. The term was made up to dehumanize individuals.
No, that is not an implication of what I said. I sense you are attempting to twist my words. It isn't going to work. What you need is to sit down and ask yourself why that is. Honestly. A bit of self-reflection wouldn't hurt any of us.
Obviously, I am speaking about those who are promoting the LGBTQ movement. Whether their harm was inadvertent or not, the result is the same.
You seem to have missed the point. It's a question of human dignity. The culture, being under the rule of the enemy, is attempting to divide us on the basis of what is transitory. The culture is not concerned with human dignity and neither does it defend the dignity of personhood. The Judeo-Christian worldview holds that each person holds a special value tied solely to his or her personhood. Each person was wonderfully made in the image of God.
If not you, then certainly the culture at large. NO, such people don't need to fight for human rights that are already afforded to every citizen by virtue of being a citizen. As I say, the so-called "fight" is nothing but a LARP.
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Taken
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Agree.
God established TWO “Races” of mankind.
Hebrew/Tribes of Israel and all others Gentiles.
Men have established RACES by Skin color, Feature Characteristics, Hair color and texture, and Nation of origin.
And since then, men (in philosophical and leadership realms particularly) have advocated, provoked, instigated, encouraged discontent, hate, oppression between and among men who look different than oneself.
To be “really different”, is to ignore an other’s philosophy and power position and think for oneself to like or dislike an other based on their behaviors, not their looks.
Taken
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~homoSEXual is absolutely about a Human of one gender being SEXUALLY attracted to another Human of the Same gender.
If you think that was the Idea and Plan of the Almighty Creator and Maker, you are sadly mistaken.
Minority? So what?
Many People are in the MINORITY of the World’s Population….Beginning with the Scriptural FEW who did or will become BORN AGAIN.
Constitutional Laws are “supposed” to be Based on HUMANS, of any gender, any age, any appearance, that they Be Free to make their own choices and enjoy or suffer the consequences. And the sitting SERVANTS JOB is to PROTECT an individuals choices, that an other not infringe upon their Right to Choose what they will.
The disgusting part is Governing Servants have overstepped their bounds from PROTECTING individuals God given Rights; to Dictating, Advocating, Promoting, and writing “special laws”….AS IF THEY DO NOT FALL WITHIN the CATEGORY OF “HUMAN”!
You want to BLAME individuals for “inhumanity”…..nope. That would be your corrupt government Servants!
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