LGBTQ

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Status
Not open for further replies.

TinMan

Well-Known Member
Mar 26, 2023
2,407
334
83
28
Michigan Saginaw
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
A homosexual is defined by their evil sexual desire and their sexual lifestyle.
This is neither a minority or a ethnic group.
A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.
Also,

you told me that you are quite involved with the LGBTQ movement. ?????
You said you know a lot of them.

Well, noone else on this form can make that claim. with such Pride.
Just You, TinMan
So, is that a church......that is LGBTQ?
Its is a BAR or a CLUB that is LGBTQ?

How do you know so many?
I know a lot of African American's as well
 

TinMan

Well-Known Member
Mar 26, 2023
2,407
334
83
28
Michigan Saginaw
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Leviticus 20
13 If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them.
so how many gay men have you killed?
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
20,516
8,196
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group

I know a lot of African American's as well

"radically different group", does not include "sexual deviant lifestyle".

"pedophiles"
"rapists"
"serial killers"
"homosexuals".

See, the Gay Agenda is always trying to redefine the Culture, based on their Sex Acts.... as their same gender Sex Acts define them as "homosexual".

They play this insane game of : "we want to be defined as if we are black, female, Japanese, Native American.".. = based on our sex acts that DEFINE US to be like them. Gay's teach.

A.) It's crazy.
Really.
Its legalized depraved crazy, that denies truth.

Also, Tinman, i didnt ask you if you knew African Americans..........or Gemini's.

I asked you how it can be that you know a lot of Gay People.
Noone on this forum does, but you....

So, to know a lof of them, you would have to go where a lot of them go.
= That's how that math adds up..... unless they all come to where you live.

So, is that a Gay Church, a Gay Club, a Gay what? How do you know so many homosexuals, personally?

Explain.
 
Last edited:

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
20,516
8,196
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
do you have a reason, other than wanting to lie, for cutting off the majority of the definition of minority?

Truth does not accept that "gay sex lifestyle", is a minority. (homosexual)
What is it?
Its sexual perversion, practiced., THE ACT of Homosexual SEX (lifestyle).... and that is also certainly not an "ethnic" Group.

"Gay rights" is the legalization of the lie that "homosexual sex" (homosexuals) is/are a minority or an ethnic group.

This deception is literally the legalization of a radical lie promoted by the Gay Agenda.

I dont have the literal history in front of me, but you can believe that GAY Fed Court Judges, and Gay Leaning Courts, and Gay leaning Legislatures, had to be put in place first , before that radical lie could be made legal.

Obama, as far as i know is not Gay, but he was the Pivot Point that began to change the USA, quickly, into what we have seen it further become, as inundated with "GAY"..... everywhere.

Even in the last Month you see these large Brands being forced to bow before the Homosexual Agenda .
Huge Dept Store Chains Like Target
Huge Alcohol Beverage companies.

And the fallout , the backlash, is that NORMAL Heterosexual People, who are having "GAY" shoved into their eyeballs,, In the USA, are going to push back, and it didnt have to be this way.
But Gays are RADICAL....they are all about trying to FORCE themselves into everything, and that was their mistake with God as well.

He is looking down here, especially at Israel and the USA, and he is holding his nose......as the stink of Gay this, Gay that, Transgender This, Transgender That.....Gay marriage, Gay Adoption...Pride week, Pride Month, "we are queer and we are here"".......on and on and on they have PUSHED their AGENDA.....and soon now, a moral and spiritual comeuppance, is on the way.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
18,228
7,602
113
56
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
somehow religion is protected by anti discrimination laws
The "somehow" is because it is legal and constitutional to discriminate. We have all kinds of age discrimination laws. You cannot drive until 16, vote until 18, drink until 21, collect Social Security until 62, etc.

The store owner is not legally allowed to sell alcohol unless you have a valid government issues ID. Admission to a show unless you have valid tickets to the show is blatant discrimination. Don't we all want access to the Superbowl even if we can't afford it or the tickets sold out before we could buy it?

Only men are required to register with the selective service. Title IX prevents discrimination against sex not made up gender.

Companies discriminate daily, choosing to hire the qualified candidates over the unqualified.

Among these - age discrimination, valid ID discrimination, sex discrimination, hiring discrimination - only religious discrimination is explicitly protected by the Constitition. And if not, you'd have to pay a surtax to largest Christian denomination in your locality. Isn't freedom and America great?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

CadyandZoe

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2020
7,753
2,640
113
Phoenix
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
First, we are talking about LGBT and yes they are a minority.
I understand that we are talking about LGBT and how do you know they are a minority? If by "minority" you mean to say that there are fewer people who live a sexually perverted lifestyle then I agree.
A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.
This is why LGBT is NOT a minority. By this definition, the Boy Scouts are a minority. But so what? A boy has a choice whether or not to be a Boy Scout. A man has a choice of whether or not to sleep with another man. A woman has a choice whether or not to sleep with another woman. LGBT has a choice to not be LGBT.
Second women are a minority but not because of numbers . . .
What? By definition, a "minority group" has fewer numbers.
(you should check your math BTW) but because despite many advances made they are subordinate to the more dominant group.
I have no idea what this means.
Third you point makes no sense., It would be like saying African American's are not a minority because out of a thousand people 504 are women and 596 are men.
You missed the point again. I think you are trying to miss the point. A man was born a man; a woman was born a woman; a black person was born black. Get it? No one is born gay. Gay is a choice not a state of being.
Orientation is inborn.
That is the lie you bought. But it isn't true.
Sexual orientation refers to an individuals enduring pattern of emotional, romantic and/or sexual attractions to men, women or both sexes. Sexual orientation also refers to a person’s sense of identity based on those attractions.
I get that. But such things are learned behavior, not inborn.
Sexual orientation is distinct from other components of sex and gender, including biological sex (the anatomical, physiological and genetic characteristics associated with being male or female), gender identity (the psychological sense of being male or female),* and social gender role (the cultural norms that define feminine and masculine behavior).
No such thing as gender identity. Sorry. It's just a LARP. That's all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reggie Belafonte

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
30,263
51,214
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
This article is revolting & should cause ALL BIBLE BELIEVERS OF TRUTH TO STAND UP, WRITE, REBUKE, & PROTEST AGAINST SUCH ABOMINABLE ACTIONS OF ......ANY DENOMINATION !

If one professes to love God but coddles SIN, my condolences to you.....for YOU ARE DEAD TO TRUTH !
Lets change just a tee tiny bit about that last line .
IF one professes to LOVE GOD but coddles SIN , PREPARE TO BE REBUKED BIG TIME . FOR you are DEAD to the TRUTH .
This generation acts like its a sin to correct sin or those who support sin .
WHAT DID GOD tell that church .
HE said this . YOU ALLOW HER to teach and to seduce . IF folks allow folks to remain in sin
and those leaders say nothing . LETS just say read what GOD says HE WILL DO to those who allowed . WHO ALLOWED .
Enough with this false love seeker friendly stuff . IF SEEKER FRIENDLY WORKED
HOW COME those churches KEPT and KEEP GETTING WORSE and WORSE , accepting more and more sin .
Calling good evil and evil good More and more . CAUSE IT dont work .
WHEN did it become A SIN , EVIL , SEEN as HATEFUL to correct SIN or warn against SIN
within the church .
HOW is this for an example .
IF i stepped up and said , Church we must LIE one to another .
Most would probably agree .
IF i said church we ought not to steal , most would agree .
IF I SAID church we must pratice homosexuality ...............PREPARE TO HEAR SOME NOISE is all i can say .
CAUSE at the very least they would say JUDGE NOT and more and more would say , HEY GOD IS LOVE
its fine as long as they love one another . THIS gen aint gonna make it .
WE must do as CHRIST DID and the apostles did .
Here is another example .
IF i were to write to people on this site and made a post
saying , IF i come and you have not repented of the sin I am gonna come with a ROD .
WHAT DO YOU THINK i would get told . YET PAUL SAID THAT . He would bewail MANY who have sinned
and have not yet repented .
IF i even say DONT LET INQUITY ONCE be named , I hear , OH WE CANT STOP SINNING , STOP JUDGING
ARE YOU PERFECT . THEY WONT even listen to that . SO what makes us think they
would not have done the same to CHRIST who did corrrect and the apostles who did corrrect . WE have A HUGE problem today .
 

Wrangler

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2021
18,228
7,602
113
56
Shining City on a Hill
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Thinking about people just as a "practice" is a great way to dehumanize a minority.
Wrong. Totally and completely wrong. Fundamentally wrong. A better word is action. It does not matter if the act of murder is repeated. Action is the proper domain of morality, the basis of moral judgment.

No one cares about your feelings. No one cares about your orientation. Action is where it is at.

Your cultural Marxism plays the vicim card to the inherently immoral. They damn well better be the minority! Guess what? The minority are not inherently superior to the majority! There is compelling evidence that rapists have an inherent rape orientation. Why not legalize rape?

And why limit self-identify to sex? I identify as a trillionaire and my right to be identified as I deem fit is not being respected. My wife identifies as one who has already paid all her bills. Her right to be identified as she deems fit is not being respected. Once our self-identification rights are recognized, I have a feeling many others like us would come out of the closet. What's wrong with that?
  • L
  • LG
  • LGB
  • LGBT
  • LGBTQ
  • LGBTQI
  • LGBTQIQLKGQMRLFG;ASDMFLVAOPWGOIPQERJOIPGJAWSDFGLOSKDFOPGOPSDFKGOPSDLFGLSMDLFGL;SDMFGJOPEJGOPWEJORYTJWER
God is a god of order and he man humanity man and woman.
 

amigo de christo

Well-Known Member
Sep 12, 2020
30,263
51,214
113
53
San angelo
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Wrong. Totally and completely wrong. Fundamentally wrong. A better word is action. It does not matter if the act of murder is repeated. Action is the proper domain of morality, the basis of moral judgment.

No one cares about your feelings. No one cares about your orientation. Action is where it is at.

Your cultural Marxism plays the vicim card to the inherently immoral. They damn well better be the minority! Guess what? The minority are not inherently superior to the majority! There is compelling evidence that rapists have an inherent rape orientation. Why not legalize rape?

And why limit self-identify to sex? I identify as a trillionaire and my right to be identified as I deem fit is not being respected. My wife identifies as one who has already paid all her bills. Her right to be identified as she deems fit is not being respected. Once our self-identification rights are recognized, I have a feeling many others like us would come out of the closet. What's wrong with that?
  • L
  • LG
  • LGB
  • LGBT
  • LGBTQ
  • LGBTQI
  • LGBTQIQLKGQMRLFG;ASDMFLVAOPWGOIPQERJOIPGJAWSDFGLOSKDFOPGOPSDFKGOPSDLFGLSMDLFGL;SDMFGJOPEJGOPWEJORYTJWER
God is a god of order and he man humanity man and woman.
To sum this up real fast and simple .
This SELF IDENTITY STUFF , IS nothing more than man BECOMING HIS OWN GOD . now ponder on that for a bit
and you will surely see how true this is .
AND if you notice this SEXUALITY IDENTITY STUFF , its nothing more than an excuse to REBEL AGAINST GOD .
Exactly . real simple .
 

TinMan

Well-Known Member
Mar 26, 2023
2,407
334
83
28
Michigan Saginaw
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Truth does not accept that "gay sex lifestyle", is a minority. (homosexual)
What is it?
Its sexual perversion, practiced., THE ACT of Homosexual SEX (lifestyle).... and that is also certainly not an "ethnic" Group.
So you just wanted to lie
 

Behold

Well-Known Member
Apr 11, 2020
20,516
8,196
113
Netanya or Pensacola
Faith
Christian
Country
Israel
So you just wanted to lie

I wouldn't do that.

I asked you how it can be that you know a lot of Gay People.

So, to know a lof of them, you would have to go where a lot of them go.
= That's how that math adds up..... unless they all come to where you live.

So, is that a Gay Church, a Gay Club, a Gay what? How do you know so many homosexuals, personally?

Explain.
 
  • Like
Reactions: amigo de christo

TinMan

Well-Known Member
Mar 26, 2023
2,407
334
83
28
Michigan Saginaw
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
The "somehow" is because it is legal and constitutional to discriminate. We have all kinds of age discrimination laws. You cannot drive until 16, vote until 18, drink until 21, collect Social Security until 62, etc.
None of those are discrimination

Discrimination is the prejudicial or disadvantageous treatment of an individual based on his or her membership - or perceived membership - in of a minority. Discrimination restricts members of a minority group from opportunities or privileges that are available to the majority group, leading to the exclusion of the individual based on minority membership and not on an individual’s behavior or character.
The store owner is not legally allowed to sell alcohol unless you have a valid government issues ID. Admission to a show unless you have valid tickets to the show is blatant discrimination. Don't we all want access to the Superbowl even if we can't afford it or the tickets sold out before we could buy it?
Still not discrimination
Only men are required to register with the selective service. Title IX prevents discrimination against sex not made up gender.

Companies discriminate daily, choosing to hire the qualified candidates over the unqualified.
Not hiring someone because they are not qualified for the position is not discrimination. Not hiring someone because of the color of their skin is. Read the definition of discrimination


Among these - age discrimination, valid ID discrimination, sex discrimination, hiring discrimination - only religious discrimination is explicitly protected by the Constitition. And if not, you'd have to pay a surtax to largest Christian denomination in your locality. Isn't freedom and America great?
False the 14th amendment specifically makes discrimination illegal when it says that people (even people you don't like) are equal in the eyes of the law.
 

CadyandZoe

Well-Known Member
May 17, 2020
7,753
2,640
113
Phoenix
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
None of those are discrimination

Discrimination is the prejudicial or disadvantageous treatment of an individual based on his or her membership - or perceived membership - in of a minority. Discrimination restricts members of a minority group from opportunities or privileges that are available to the majority group, leading to the exclusion of the individual based on minority membership and not on an individual’s behavior or character.
When a man lies with another man, that is behavior. When a woman lies with another woman, that is behavior.
 

marks

Well-Known Member
Oct 10, 2018
36,840
24,139
113
SoCal USA
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Did you actually listen to the words? They are talking about converting children to kindness and understanding.
One of the people who commented on this video said this:

" Glenn Sweet

1 year ago

I’m sorry folks… I am a straight 70 year old man that heard the “uproar” about this song and decided to listen for myself… pretty damned obvious this is a statement that they will seek the better angels of human nature and find understanding. It seems all the “uproar” is coming from the narrow minded in their dark caves looking to lash out… it’s just sad."


You guys can believe whatever you want, but we are not to hate. I hope I'm not seeing that in your posts. And I also hope that some of you aren't bringing these things up to make yourselves feel better in your Christian walk. We all are sinners. We all have to make sure our salvation is sure. Dont put that stuff on the back burner.
I don't hate homosexuals. But don't be fooled, the conversion they want is acceptance of their sin and depravity, so that the children will be less put off and more receptive as they intend to convert them to "love" and "kindness" but really to same sex sin.

To me, grooming children for homosexuality and other sexual perversion is equivalent to murder. Perverting children robs them of the life they would have had otherwise.

Much love!
 

TinMan

Well-Known Member
Mar 26, 2023
2,407
334
83
28
Michigan Saginaw
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
I understand that we are talking about LGBT and how do you know they are a minority?
Maybe you should read the definition

A minority is a culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group that has a shared sense of collective identity and community that coexists with but is subordinate to a more dominant group with socially shared rules about who belongs and who does not.

LGBT is a culturally distinct group.
with a collective identity
with rules about who does and does not belong
with a shared community
subordinate to the majority

Yes they are a minority although many who choose to hate them like to pretend they are not.

If by "minority" you mean to say that there are fewer people who live a sexually perverted lifestyle then I agree.
That is not the definition of any minority but it is a good example of bigotry.
This is why LGBT is NOT a minority. By this definition, the Boy Scouts are a minority. But so what? A boy has a choice whether or not to be a Boy Scout.
No the scouts are not a minority.
they are not culturally, ethnically, religious or racially distinct group

A man has a choice of whether or not to sleep with another man. A woman has a choice whether or not to sleep with another woman. LGBT has a choice to not be LGBT.
False
What? By definition, a "minority group" has fewer numbers.
Read the definition again
I have no idea what this means.

You missed the point again. I think you are trying to miss the point. A man was born a man; a woman was born a woman; a black person was born black. Get it? No one is born gay. Gay is a choice not a state of being.
That is a lie you tell yourself. I assume the lie is told to somehow make prejudice and discrimination justifiable (its never justifiable)
That is the lie you bought. But it isn't true.

I get that. But such things are learned behavior, not inborn.
Evidence?
No such thing as gender identity. Sorry. It's just a LARP. That's all.
Pretending something doesn't exist wont make it go away
 

TinMan

Well-Known Member
Mar 26, 2023
2,407
334
83
28
Michigan Saginaw
Faith
Christian
Country
United States
Wrong. Totally and completely wrong. Fundamentally wrong. A better word is action. It does not matter if the act of murder is repeated. Action is the proper domain of morality, the basis of moral judgment.

No one cares about your feelings. No one cares about your orientation. Action is where it is at.

Your cultural Marxism plays the vicim card to the inherently immoral. They damn well better be the minority! Guess what? The minority are not inherently superior to the majority! There is compelling evidence that rapists have an inherent rape orientation. Why not legalize rape?
Show this compelling evidence.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.