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Ritajanice

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No, you don't understand my theology because you are like a hamster on a treadmill
You can insult me as much as you like.

Jesus was insulted far worse than me.

With respect, I don’t read your posts anymore, as I’ve said, your theology confuses me, therefore I stay away from it.

God Bless and have a great day.
 

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What do you call it if you do something unrighteous? Something that is not from faith? Or are you saying that all you think, say, and do is righteousness?
Again, not understanding, I’m in the righteousness of Christ...something that is not from faith, with respect, that makes no sense to me ,Marks.

I’m in the righteousness of Christ Brother..I’m not in my own righteousness...maybe @Behold can explain yet again....he is the teacher here.
 

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Again, not understanding, I’m in the righteousness of Christ...something that is not from faith, with respect, that makes no sense to me ,Marks.
OK, I'm hearing that everything you think, do, and say, all is from faith, nothing is disobedient or wrong, all is righteousness. You've forever put off all fleshiness, never to be seen again. Do I understand you rightly?

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OK, I'm hearing that everything you think, do, and say, all is from faith, nothing is disobedient or wrong, all is
All is from faith...makes no sense to me,Marks
righteousness. You've forever put off all fleshiness, never to be seen again. Do I understand you rightly?

Much love!
I’m in the Spirit I’m not in the flesh.
 

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You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ...

I’m in the realm of the Spirit...which is the heavenly realm, the Kingdom of God......I’m covered by the blood of Jesus .....I’m in the world but I’m not of this world...I’m in the Kingdom of God.....
 

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You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Chris
Romans 8:9 KJV
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

Your translation interprets this passage, not just translates it. There is no "realm of flesh", the actual passage reads, "you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit".

BTW I editted my post ^

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You can insult me as much as you like.

Jesus was insulted far worse than me.

With respect, I don’t read your posts anymore, as I’ve said, your theology confuses me, therefore I stay away from it.

God Bless and have a great day.
Shunning the light so that the evil deeds can be exposed has that effect.

You have made Jesus a liar.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

No need for further dialogue.
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Your translation interprets this passage, not just translates it. There is no "realm of flesh", the actual passage reads, "you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit".

Romans 8:8-9​

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8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

Flesh and Spirit represent two kingdoms. Flesh is the kingdom of the physical, Spirit of the spiritual. Satan rules the physical kingdom, God is ruler over the spiritual. The natures of these realms are total opposites
 
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Shunning the light so that the evil deeds can be exposed has that effect.

You have made Jesus a liar.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

No need for further dialogue.


Romans 8:8-9​

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8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
Proverbs 26:4
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Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.

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But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they engender strifes.
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But foolish and ignorant questionings refuse, knowing that they gender strifes.
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But have nothing to do with foolish and ignorant speculations [useless disputes over unedifying, stupid controversies], since you know that they produce strife and give birth to quarrels.
 
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Romans 8:8-9​

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8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God.
9 You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.
Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


υμεις δε ουκ εστε εν σαρκι αλλ εν πνευματι ειπερ πνευμα θεου οικει εν υμιν ει δε τις πνευμα χριστου ουκ εχει ουτος ουκ εστιν αυτου
 
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Ritajanice

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Online commentary.




Two Realms: Flesh and Spirit​

There are two, and only two, realms … physical and spiritual. These are referred to in the Bible with different words, among them are good and evil, or light and darkness. Often used in the New Testament are the terms flesh and Spirit. The word Spirit with a capital “S” is usually a reference to the Holy Spirit, especially in the New Testament.
Whatever the terminology, the two realms are always the physical and the spiritual. In other words, they are either known to us by our five senses, and as such are physical; or we are aware of them by the eyes and ears of our heart, and are therefore spiritual. Let me note that in Biblical terminology the word heart can be a reference to the organ that pumps blood through our body, or it can mean one’s spiritual nature … the part of us that is spiritual. Another way to describe our spiritual heart is that it is our center or core, the essence of who we are … it is the home of our character and personality. In short, it is not what we look like, it is who and what we are.
Flesh and Spirit represent two kingdoms. Flesh is the kingdom of the physical, Spirit of the spiritual. Satan rules the physical kingdom, God is ruler over the spiritual. The natures of these realms are total opposites … counterparts. The realm of the flesh, as Satan’s realm, is characterized by all that is said to be evil. Included are things such as lying, hating, stealing, murder, greed, deceitfulness, etc. The realm of the Spirit, as God’s realm, is distinguished by all that is good. These include love, joy, peace, forgiveness, unselfishness and the like. Each can be thought of as being the personification of the head of the realm, i.e., of Satan for the flesh, or God for the Spirit.
 
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@Behold.

A member said, they don’t walk in the Spirit 24/7 or that they are sinless, the more they come to know Jesus they say, the more they realise their shortcomings....

Do you know what this means?
 
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@Behold.

A member said, they don’t walk in the Spirit 24/7 or that they are sinless, the more they come to know Jesus they say, the more they realise their shortcomings....

Do you know what this means?
Tell me, I am right in your face.
You are biblically illiterate and don't know the Scriptural foundation of the Scriptures.
Care to elaborate?
Johann.
 
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1 Corinthians 4:3-5 KJV
3) But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
4) For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
5) Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Paul wrote that he knew nothing "by himself", the meaning here is that he's not conscious of anything against himself. And he goes on to say, "yet I'm not by this justified", just because his conscience is clean, that doesn't mean his works are all righteous, none unrighteous. Jesus will judge, He alone knows our hearts well enough to correctly judge. We are not fit judges of ourselves, to declare, "I have no unrighteous works". If we say that, we say what Paul would not. His admonition is to imitate him.

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1 Corinthians 4:3-5 KJV
3) But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
4) For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.
5) Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

Paul wrote that he knew nothing "by himself", the meaning here is that he's not conscious of anything against himself. And he goes on to say, "yet I'm not by this justified", just because his conscience is clean, that doesn't mean his works are all righteous, none unrighteous. Jesus will judge, He alone knows our hearts well enough to correctly judge. We are not fit judges of ourselves, to declare, "I have no unrighteous works". If we say that, we say what Paul would not. His admonition is to imitate him.

Much love!
To be blunt with you, we have hypocrites here-whitewashed tombs, inside full of dead bones-a form of godliness, and nothing else.
Give it to me straight brother-tell me how wrong I am, correct, rebuke me.
Time for playing games is over, we have old people advanced in years, and still corrupt the Scriptures.
Johann.
 

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@Behold.

A member said, they don’t walk in the Spirit 24/7 or that they are sinless, the more they come to know Jesus they say, the more they realise their shortcomings....

Do you know what this means?
Blessings Ritajanice. The Lord thy God is Holy. Of course the closer we are to Him we realize how unworthy we are. If we truly love The Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind, when we mess up(sin) we will come to Him on our knees to confess(say we are sorry). And He is just to forgive us. Saying we are sorry or remorseful is not a work, it is an act of love. This whole walk is about being clean(repented up). It is then that we can walk in The Spirit. It is then that The Lord(The Holy Spirit) can work in and through us. When we are truly in The Spirit, it is then that we do not sin. You can put these words to the test by confessing your sin in prayer and you will feel the sin lift off. That would be The Lord showing you a truth of a matter. He is just to forgive us. We all should be letting The Holy Spirit teach us if He truly dwells in us. I come here not to argue over doctrine as the is only one Truth and that can only be found in Jesus.
 

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Thats our Discipleship...........not our Salvation.

Salvation is Jesus on the Cross..........and you can't DO that one.
Keep all hope , all trust in CHRIST unto the end . To the last breath .
IN CHRIST ALONE is our salvation . Never follow pope francis nor the many others who are merging as one
under this very strong delusion of a love that cannot save them . For its love is not of God
,wont point to CHRIST . its letting all false religoins and worse even those in christendom to believe a lie
that folks dont need to BELIEVE on JESUS as the CHRIST . And it is leading all who buy into it
Right to the SECOND death .
 

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To be blunt with you, we have hypocrites here-whitewashed tombs, inside full of dead bones-a form of godliness, and nothing else.
Give it to me straight brother-tell me how wrong I am, correct, rebuke me.
Time for playing games is over, we have old people advanced in years, and still corrupt the Scriptures.
Johann.
Too many sat under the wrong men for far too long .
We must simply return to the bible and learn it well . These are the last hours on earth .
We must contend for the true faith , while there still be time to do so .
JESUS told them . He warned them all . He who cometh to me
and keeps not my sayings , a hearer but not a doer has built their house on sinking sand .
AND JAMES reminded the church about it . AS did paul , as did others .
WHOSE servant we are , IS WHO WE OBEY .
Shall we continue in SIN that grace may abound . GOD forbid .
CHURCH dont you know that to whom you yield yourselves as servants to OBEY . HIS SERVANTS YOU ARE .
Aint no middle in that . Whether of sin unto death or of OBEDIANCE unto righteousness .
HE WHO LOVES ME KEEPS MY SAYINGS . The true litmus test of a lamb can easily be seen
IN WHO IT FOLLOWS . WILL IT BE MEN OR CHRIST . As for the lambs , ITS CHRIST . I feel horrible
for so many . i truly do . WE must point to CHRIST , teach ALL HIS teachings , teach the Word and words of GOD .
Teach that bible . SO many no longer do .
 
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