Entire Sanctification = "In Christ"

[amigo de christo]

I concur here-we cannot "save ourselves, or pull ourselves up by our own boot straps"-It is wholly an act of YHVH.

Eph 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
Eph 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
Eph 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Eph 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
Eph 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
Eph 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Johann.

that is the key my friend . YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS .
Those who truly are HIS , have HIS SPIRIT . and the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT , IS THIS
ITS IN ALL GOODNESS , RIGHTEOUSNESS and TRUTH , PROVING what is acceptable TO GOD .
Not to man , TO GOD . And sin aint acceptable to him . HE WORKS IN US
that which is well pleasing not to man and what the world thinks , PLEASING TO GOD HIMSELF .
PROOF of whose we are , WILL EASILY BE SEEN by our walk . IF one TRULY IS HIS
they have the SPIRIT and its called HOLY for a reason . CAUSE IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT .
IT IS OUR GUIDE , IT IS our comforter , our connection TO THE HOLY GOD .
The church , BY that same SPIRIT , spoke the same words JESUS had . THEY too corrected error
they too corrected sins . They by the SPIRIT taught and did the things pleasing to GOD , and not to what a generation
or people found pleasing . THEY DIDNT preach what pleased society , but what PLEASED GOD
And every WORD was for the good of the church . Every warning , every reminder , every promise .
But many now over look certain things in the bible . they wrest and twist scrips unto their own destruction .
They are heeding teachings of men who taught things contrary to GOD , to HIS WORD , TO HIS SPIRIT .
We must return to bibles . we must learn that bible . For many men , leaders in churches no longer DO teach
the good and pure holy doctrine that could have built the church up . Rather they preach things
allow things that destroy the churches and have destroyed them from within . The lambs FOLLOW CHRIST
and all scripture they will love and embrace .

 

[amigo de christo]

-and Matthew 25-the whole chapter-and I concur with you brother, mere accumulative head knowledge ain't going to cut it-it is the putting of the gospel into daily practice-it is walk the talk, not talk the walk.

You were a Marine, so when your sergeant gave you a COMMAND-you promptly obeyed, no questions asked!
I notice a lot of "talking" online-the Imperatives in the gospels and the epistles are COMMANDS-but it would seem the "cost is to high" and a certain redefinition is the norm, I hope you understand what I'm getting at here brother.

Jas 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
Jas 2:15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
Jas 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
Jas 2:17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Jas 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
Jas 2:22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
Jas 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
Jas 2:25 Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
Jas 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Later
Johann.

That is what so many no longer understand . They know not that true belief , true faith
amounts to more than just head knowing . THE DEVILS THEMSELVES KNOW JESUS is the CHRIST .
Abraham . Abraham actually did have faith , he did love GOD , HE DID BELIEVE . TRULY BELIEVED .
And i can sum it up real simple .
ABRHAM BELIEVED GOD . GOD SAID ABRHAM DID . TRUE FAITH , TRUE BELIEF DOES THAT .
JESUS SAID IT . IF YE LOVE ME YOU WILL KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS .
HE who loves me not , KEEPS NOT my commandemnts .
BELIEF < FAITH , LOVE , IS SUMMED UP BY WHOM WE OBEY .
WHEN I LOVED THE FLESH , MY SINS , for example , I OBEYED IT .
BUT GOD CHANGED < CHANGES THE HEART . THE HEART NOW HATES THE EVILS OF MY FLESH that i once LOVED
and it now LOVES THE TRUTHS IN GODS WORD that i once hated . ITS SO SIMPLE .
IF we are HIS WE HAVE HIS LOVE upon our hearts . HIS LOVE can be summed up , LOVE GOD WITH ALL YOUR HEART
A LAMB HAS THAT LOVE UPON ITS HEART , GIVEN BY GOD through FAITH IN HIS CHRIST . But many know not what i speak about at all . MANY still love their sins , they still hate the pure and holy words , AS I DID ONCE .
THOUGH if you had asked me , while i was still lost , I WOULD have said I LOVED GOD .
BUT I SERVED ME . And many now twist scrips because THEY STILL LOVE THEIR SIN .
PEOPLE need to get in those bibles . Folks need to submit to the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD , WHICH IS CHRIST
and they would THEN have new hearts , FOR THE SPIRIT CHANGES them . IT TRULY DOES . I should know
I was the worst of the worst . BUT GOD CHANGED MY HEART . HE DID that . Now lift those hands and praise the LORD .

 

[Cassandra]

@Behold.

A member said, they don’t walk in the Spirit 24/7 or that they are sinless, the more they come to know Jesus they say, the more they realise their shortcomings....

Do you know what this means?

The Blood of Christ covers us. That is justification. Then the Holy Spirit is given to us and teaches us. We want to do His will, that is sanctification. It is not a magical thing, but a walk with the Lord.
Even Paul said "I die daily."
Hebrews 7 talks about Jesus as our High Priest. He intercedes for us. If we were sinless, why does He need to do this ? We would be done.
Not necessary to read the Bible anymore or anything,--we've made it.
But it doesn't work like that.
The more Christ shows us of our lives , the more we realize how much we are not worthy of that Sacrifice, and we see our sshortcomings--that is true.

 

[amigo de christo]

Okay Haman the Agagite! I don't judge at all! I point you to what the word of God warns for your false gospel.

If you feel judged then maybe it is the Holy spirit showing you the errors of your you never sin anymore lie.

Wasnt Haman the one who hated mordecai .

 

[Enoch111]

I’m in the righteousness of Christ Brother..I’m not in my own righteousness...maybe @Behold can explain yet again....he is the teacher here.

Behold is the "teacher" here? That is truly hilarious. All he does is sow seeds of spiritual confusion, because he is unable to rightly divide the Word of Truth.

 

[Enoch111]

...If we were sinless, why does He need to do this ? We would be done...

Exactly. But we have a few "enlightened ones" who truly believe that they are sinless -- above the fray. The first epistle of John has been expunged from their bibles, since John say that they not only deceive themselves but make God a liar.

 

[amigo de christo]

The Blood of Christ covers us. That is justification. Then the Holy Spirit is given to us and teaches us. We want to do His will, that is sanctification. It is not a magical thing, but a walk with the Lord.
Even Paul said "I die daily."
Hebrews 7 talks about Jesus as our High Priest. He intercedes for us. If we were sinless, why does He need to do this ? We would be done.
Not necessary to read the Bible anymore or anything,--we've made it.
But it doesn't work like that.
The more Christ shows us of our lives , the more we realize how much we are not worthy of that Sacrifice, and we see our sshortcomings--that is true.

I DIE DAILY . yep paul sure wrote that .
So my question is simply this , how come so many who claim to KNOW CHRIST
seem to LIVE DAILY FOR THEIR SINS . JUST LIKE I ONCE DID .
I was LOST and in darkness. The fruit of the SPIRIT dont support sin .
It dont honor any sin and it dont overlook sins within the church either .
Leaders , many of them , NEED TO COME to the same SAVING KNOWELDGE GOD gave to me .
This overlooking sin aint COMING FROM THE SPIRIT , FROM GOD , OR FROM CHRIST .
Its coming from another . Who can appear indeed as an angel of light
and knows how to feed the lusts of the flesh .
Just a friendly reminder . Test those spirits
for many false ones abound . Leading the people farther and farther away
from even any resemblance of the HOLY GOD , HIS CHRIST , HIS GOSPEL , HIS SPIRIT .
IF we love the brethren , AS GOD LOVES US , we would correct any error in any
who calls themselves a christain . Love dont overlook sins , GOD IS LOVE
and HE Sure corrected the people through the prophets , through chastisments and etc .
JESUS loved the people and he sure corrected error .
The apostels loved the peoples and they sure corrected sin and error within the church .
IT AINT HAPPENING TODAY in most places . AND I just dont see the love for the welfare of the people IN THAT MESS .

 

[amigo de christo]

Exactly. But we have a few "enlightened ones" who truly believe that they are sinless -- above the fray. The first epistle of John has been expunged from their bibles, since John say that they not only deceive themselves but make God a liar.

many now embrace SIN . They say WE HAVE NOT SINNED . They are calling GOD a liar .
WHEN a man or woman steps up and identifies with her or his sin , THEN KNOW and understand SOMETHING is dead wrong .
An example .
I used to sin a lot and embraced my sins too .
BUT GOD changed me . YOU DONT SEE ME standing up before churches and saying
HEY CHURCH I AM A FORNICATING CHRISTIAN , OR I AM A LYING CHRISTAIN .
SO WHY ON EARTH are we even supporting those within the church who stand proud and say HEY CHURCH I AM A GAY CHRISTAIN .
LAMBS DONT IDENTIFY WITH SIN . THEY SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD TO IT and FIGHT against the lusts of the flesh .
NOT IDENTIFY EVER SO PROUDLY WITH THEIR SIN . SOMETHING has went bad wrong indeed
and WORSE , even worse leaders of churches and many people within churches just love to have this so .
ITS like they take pleasure in their sin , they support their lies , they embrace and support the love of money
they embrace and support abortion . I AM A PRO RIGHTS CHRISTAIN they say . But forget all about the baby that will be killed
to support such rights . WE GOT way too many problems within the church
and now to many its a sin to dare to even correct some sins , even to read certain letters from paul
about what sin is , who wont inherit the KINGDOM of GOD . TO even say
that for these things the wrath of GOD cometh upon them , IS NOW SEEN AS EVIL TO SAY .
ENOCH . ITS TIME FOLKS GET BACK IN BIBLES . AND FAST .

 

[Keturah]

My final declaration on these matters.

I truly pray that those whom  say they are of the redeemed are so. I pray ALL come to a repentant state before God in realization that all have sinned before our Creator, God!

 Savation comes only through the shed blood of Jesus in his sacrifice on the cross as the only propitiation of the sins of all whom will believe; have FAITH; which cometh by hearing & doing the word of God! ONLY by his name, in a godly sorrow repentance, shall any be saved!

It is a FREE GIFT of God's gracious  mercy toward a fallen man. Man in whom there is zero goodness nor righteousness and whom could not redeem himself by any means. One  cannot work by the traditions of men their way into God's home but all are invited by his GRACE !

The word of God, in whatever version or translation, that has NOT BEEN CORRUPTED you choose, is the only doctrine to live a justified discipleship within!

After salvation comes DISCIPLESHIP & the walk in faith. We  must be led of & walk  IN the Spirit to follow Christ in fulfilling God's righteousness!

It is by his word, all of it's commands, statues & standards that will keep us steadfast on this race. We must study to show ourselves  approved of God, rightly dividing by context & harmony the word that will grow us into MATURITY or perfection!
It is shameful to hear 20,30 & beyond folks call themselves righteously born again, in the Spirit, led by God that are STILL INFANTILE BELIEVERS!

No one can force or coerce another to believe in God but rather the Spirit convicts of sin against God & persuades men to follow. It is every individual's choice. It is also every individual's account before God & the responsibility of said account in being a good steward!

Sin is without the door of our hearts, let us beware how we walk & talk!

There is unity of the household of faith ONLY when the word is our DOCTRINE! No man's private interpretation, understanding or theology should supercede the word of God in our lives!

This constant debating, bickering, name calling, judging another's salvation place, arguing & finger pointing is ALL FROM SATAN, the father of lies & all that is against God.....BEWARE!

If this forum cannot provide me with a place of peace by the DECORUM OF MODS, acting on behalf of ALL ITS MEMBERS .......WELL.
There is such a thing as healthy debate & study IN BALANCE.
****ITS YOUR NAME @ RISK....

May we each EXAMINE our hearts, STUDY his word, LIVE & WALK in his Spirit as we are
led !

 

[amigo de christo]

My final declaration on these matters.

I truly pray that those whom  say they are of the redeemed are so. I pray ALL come to a repentant state before God in realization that all have sinned before our Creator, God!

 Savation comes only through the shed blood of Jesus in his sacrifice on the cross as the only propitiation of the sins of all whom will believe; have FAITH; which cometh by hearing & doing the word of God! ONLY by his name, in a godly sorrow repentance, shall any be saved!

It is a FREE GIFT of God's gracious  mercy toward a fallen man. Man in whom there is zero goodness nor righteousness and whom could not redeem himself by any means. One  cannot work by the traditions of men their way into God's home but all are invited by his GRACE !

The word of God, in whatever version or translation, that has NOT BEEN CORRUPTED you choose, is the only doctrine to live a justified discipleship within!

After salvation comes DISCIPLESHIP & the walk in faith. We  must be led of & walk  IN the Spirit to follow Christ in fulfilling God's righteousness!

It is by his word, all of it's commands, statues & standards that will keep us steadfast on this race. We must study to show ourselves  approved of God, rightly dividing by context & harmony the word that will grow us into MATURITY or perfection!
It is shameful to hear 20,30 & beyond folks call themselves righteously born again, in the Spirit, led by God that are STILL INFANTILE BELIEVERS!

No one can force or coerce another to believe in God but rather the Spirit convicts of sin against God & persuades men to follow. It is every individual's choice. It is also every individual's account before God & the responsibility of said account in being a good steward!

Sin is without the door of our hearts, let us beware how we walk & talk!

There is unity of the household of faith ONLY when the word is our DOCTRINE! No man's private interpretation, understanding or theology should supercede the word of God in our lives!

This constant debating, bickering, name calling, judging another's salvation place, arguing & finger pointing is ALL FROM SATAN, the father of lies & all that is against God.....BEWARE!

If this forum cannot provide me with a place of peace by the DECORUM OF MODS, acting on behalf of ALL ITS MEMBERS .......WELL.
There is such a thing as healthy debate & study IN BALANCE.
****ITS YOUR NAME @ RISK....

May we each EXAMINE our hearts, STUDY his word, LIVE & WALK in his Spirit as we are
led !

Dont leave my friend . The lambs must remain together , faithful unto Christ .
We must contend for the true faith always . Now let us march onward in the LORD .
Examine well who does all the name calling . The lambs bring biblical doctrine , its just many dont like the doctrine anymore .
You march on my friend . Dont leave us my friend . Let us continue to contend for the true faith .

 

[amigo de christo]

Theres a fat ol thunderstorm going on right now . Let the rains fall down .
And let the LORD be praised .

 

[amigo de christo]

I lost power about ten minutes ago , but it came back on .
So here i am with fingers typing and reminding all ITS LORD PRAISING and THANKING TIME in the buildling and round the world .
CONTEND for the true faith . The devil is taking no time off to spout a lie
and the lambs take no time off to point to CHRIST and the TRUTH of HIS WORDS . Now lift those hands , ITS LORD PRAISING TIME .

 

[amigo de christo]

My final declaration on these matters.

I truly pray that those whom  say they are of the redeemed are so. I pray ALL come to a repentant state before God in realization that all have sinned before our Creator, God!

 Savation comes only through the shed blood of Jesus in his sacrifice on the cross as the only propitiation of the sins of all whom will believe; have FAITH; which cometh by hearing & doing the word of God! ONLY by his name, in a godly sorrow repentance, shall any be saved!

It is a FREE GIFT of God's gracious  mercy toward a fallen man. Man in whom there is zero goodness nor righteousness and whom could not redeem himself by any means. One  cannot work by the traditions of men their way into God's home but all are invited by his GRACE !

The word of God, in whatever version or translation, that has NOT BEEN CORRUPTED you choose, is the only doctrine to live a justified discipleship within!

After salvation comes DISCIPLESHIP & the walk in faith. We  must be led of & walk  IN the Spirit to follow Christ in fulfilling God's righteousness!

It is by his word, all of it's commands, statues & standards that will keep us steadfast on this race. We must study to show ourselves  approved of God, rightly dividing by context & harmony the word that will grow us into MATURITY or perfection!
It is shameful to hear 20,30 & beyond folks call themselves righteously born again, in the Spirit, led by God that are STILL INFANTILE BELIEVERS!

No one can force or coerce another to believe in God but rather the Spirit convicts of sin against God & persuades men to follow. It is every individual's choice. It is also every individual's account before God & the responsibility of said account in being a good steward!

Sin is without the door of our hearts, let us beware how we walk & talk!

There is unity of the household of faith ONLY when the word is our DOCTRINE! No man's private interpretation, understanding or theology should supercede the word of God in our lives!

This constant debating, bickering, name calling, judging another's salvation place, arguing & finger pointing is ALL FROM SATAN, the father of lies & all that is against God.....BEWARE!

If this forum cannot provide me with a place of peace by the DECORUM OF MODS, acting on behalf of ALL ITS MEMBERS .......WELL.
There is such a thing as healthy debate & study IN BALANCE.
****ITS YOUR NAME @ RISK....

May we each EXAMINE our hearts, STUDY his word, LIVE & WALK in his Spirit as we are
led !

Hey my friend . Have you seen this horrible teaching raging through even christendom as of late .
More and more and trying to say muslims , buddist , atheist and others have the LOVE OF GOD
within them , if they are just doing good works and loving one another .
BUT allow me to remind us all of what JESUS himself told the unbelieving jews .
YOU HAVE NOT THE LOVE OF GOD IN YOU . Cause they didnt BELIEVE ON HIM .
IF YE LOVED GOD YE WOULD HAVE LOVED ME . Yep . Now lift those hands in praise to the glorious LORD .

 

[Keturah]

Dont leave my friend . The lambs must remain together , faithful unto Christ .
We must contend for the true faith always . Now let us march onward in the LORD .
Examine well who does all the name calling . The lambs bring biblical doctrine , its just many dont like the doctrine anymore .
You march on my friend . Dont leave us my friend . Let us continue to contend for the true faith .

I'm so frustrated @ the very same folks causing confusion & division of the word, acting like the right hand of God in judgement, belittling, needling, being tossed about by every wind of doctrine, whining, & ect.
I have been with these very same folks in several other forums & THIS is always how they behave!!!!!

I want PEACE among the SUPPOSED " brethren !

You have been a ROCK, friend of Christ, an encouragement to stay dug in & on track........thank you.

Time will tell how this shapes up but I hate losing faith in those I once found grounded.

 

[Ritajanice]

Blessings Ritajanice. The Lord thy God is Holy. Of course the closer we are to Him we realize how unworthy we are. If we truly love The Lord with all our heart, soul, and mind, when we mess up(sin) we will come to Him on our knees to confess(say we are sorry). And He is just to forgive us. Saying we are sorry or remorseful is not a work, it is an act of love. This whole walk is about being clean(repented up). It is then that we can walk in The Spirit. It is then that The Lord(The Holy Spirit) can work in and through us. When we are truly in The Spirit, it is then that we do not sin. You can put these words to the test by confessing your sin in prayer and you will feel the sin lift off. That would be The Lord showing you a truth of a matter. He is just to forgive us. We all should be letting The Holy Spirit teach us if He truly dwells in us. I come here not to argue over doctrine as the is only one Truth and that can only be found in Jesus.

Hello Brother.....I’ve already done that, I repented once, and i Never have to repent again...NEVER....I have been birthed in the Spirit, all of my sins have been forgiven by God...

Past sins, forgiven...Present sins, forgiven, Future sins, forgiven.....I am right before God on the evening I was birthed...I am in the righteousness now of Jesus....

I have been set free from the darkness/ Sin....into his wonderful light...I have been truly supernaturally birthed in the Holy Spirit.

Wow,Wow and Wow.....you are on your knees repenting still.....seriously.....that is worrying, Brother.

Don’t you know that when you have been birthed in the Spirit, you are in the spiritual kingdom of God.

You are His, your sins have been forgiven,past,present and future.

We are under the grace of God....did you not know that the Holy Spirit indwells your spirit.....what does that mean to you?

If you knew this in your heart/ spirit, you wouldn’t keep repenting.....being birthed in the Spirit is a one time event......we are saved and will NEVER lose our salvation......imo/ belief and I truly believe this, why, because I know I’m truly Born Again.......we have the indwelling Holy Spirit....who is making us into the image of Jesus....

We don’t do any work in ourselves to be like Jesus....that is the role of the Holy Spirit, making us into the image of Jesus.

Question...how would “ YOU” know how to make yourself into the image of Jesus......by reading the Bible, through the head?....

Something needs to happen before you or I can understand the word of God....the words of God are spiritual words,Brother.....they aren’t words that are dead....where the word of God is, there is Life....what does that mean?

You NEVER ever have to keep asking for forgiveness,Brother...Wow!...I’m really starting to understand the severity of this theology.....it really goes against my spirit.....I NEVER have to repent continuously to stay saved/ birthed.....you CANNOT un - birth yourself Brother......a Born again 100% belongs to God and not this world....when you have “ truly” been birthed.....you will 100% know it, there is NO DOUBT whatsoever Brother.

Brother I can only listen to the Holy Spirit....the only person I understand is @Behold ....I will wait for him to explain.......

I have read your post, but it seriously confuses me and I know in my spirit, it’s not Gods truth.....thank you for taking the time to explain..”in your OWN words....God Bless You and Praise Jesus.

Brother my burden of sin was lifted the evening I was birthed in the Spirit.....it was my bolt of lightning moment and NO God didn’t hit me with a bolt of lightning...lol, hahaha......it was his POWERFUL word, straight to my heart/ spirit.....he had softened my heart to receive his word, just like he did Lydia.....I had an AMAZING birthing in the Spirit.....” AMAZING....all Glory to Jesus ,Brother.

I could never ever deny my birthing in the Spirit.

This is my testimony and belief 100% ..it will NEVER change.

I never get caught up in throwing insults back and forth....because imo that is the flesh and the flesh profit nothing.......I do believe we still have moments in the flesh......but a born again, bears the fruit of the Holy Spirit....you shall know them by their fruit....that’s the power of the Spirit that is the fruit bearer, that’s where our fruit comes from....it can’t be faked....fake fruit or a fake believer their fruit will never last....as they aren’t in the Spirit, they are in SELF..

Edit to add....the burden of my sin was lifted the night I was birthed....it was like a ton of bricks being taken off my shoulders.....and I never knew that I had been in sin all those years as I was in darkness, a hell hole, ...not until I was birthed in the Spirit, I am a child of God.....Hallelujah and Praise God.....no more repenting.....all of my sin has been dealt with by God’s Grace and Mercy....and it’s all on JESUS.....Praise Him all day every day!!...in Jesus Name....Amen!

Only the truth of the “ Living” word of God can set you free.

You must be “ Truly” Born Again to see the Kingdom of God.....only God can birth you in the Holy Spirit....once and once only.

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Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Literal Bible Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God. King James Bible Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. New King James Version Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

 

[Ritajanice]

Behold is the "teacher" here? That is truly hilarious. All he does is sow seeds of spiritual confusion, because he is unable to rightly divide the

The Blood of Christ covers us. That is justification. Then the Holy Spirit is given to us and teaches us. We want to do His will, that is sanctification. It is not a magical thing, but a walk with the Lord.
Even Paul said "I die daily."
Hebrews 7 talks about Jesus as our High Priest. He intercedes for us. If we were sinless, why does He need to do this ? We would be done.

Hello Cassandra, again your theology is not making sense....see my post to GTW, ....l die daily of course, but, I have been birthed in the Spirit....we aren’t birthed in the head or mind....our spirit is birthed into the Holy Spirit, what does that mean to you?

We repent once and once only.my burden of sin was lifted the night I was birthed in the Spirit....when God supernaturally birthed me in the Spirit......you do know that the birth is a supernatural act that only God can do through the Holy Spirit ?...we have the indwelling Holy Spirit who is making us into the image of Jesus?

How would you know you are being made into the image of Jesus,Sister?

Surely you don’t believe that you work to be made into the image of Jesus?

Sister, we can all read the Bible....but, we can do nothing without being born again, that is PARAMOUNT to our foundation, that’s where our foundation begins...

We must be truly born again...in order to understand the word of God and to be led by the Holy Spirit...otherwise we aren’t his...we are still in darkness and sin/ alienated from God....we need the power of the Holy Spirit to birth us into his kingdom....before, we can ever start walking in the Spirit....in other words, we must be born again...which is an act of God...He is the only one who can regenerate and bring us Alive in Christ...my testimony and belief 100%

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Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Literal Bible Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God. King James Bible Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. New King James Version Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

 

[Ritajanice]

I DIE DAILY . yep paul sure wrote that .
So my question is simply this , how come so many who claim to KNOW CHRIST
seem to LIVE DAILY FOR THEIR SINS . JUST LIKE I ONCE DID

Live daily for their sins, what does that mean?

A Born Again has been forgiven all of their sins, when they were birthed...they now have the indwelling Holy Spirit, they are now under grace and are in God’s Kingdom.

What role does the indwelling Holy Spirit play?

What work does he do in his child?

◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Literal Bible Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God. King James Bible Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. New King James Version Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

 

[Ritajanice]

Then the Holy Spirit is given to us and teaches us.

Hello again.....How was the Holy Spirit given to you....what does that mean?

How did he give you his word, is that what you are saying?

 

[Ritajanice]

Tell me, I am right in your face.
You are biblically illiterate and don't know the Scriptural foundation of the Scriptures.
Care to elaborate?

I am biblically illiterate and I don’t know the Scriptural foundation of the Scriptures...ok,in your own opinion.

My foundation is in the “ Living” word of God....can you tell me what that means?

Also how would you know that God’s word is Alive and Active, the Bible?

Another way of saying it is....how would you personally know that the bible is the true word of God?

In order for you to understand God’s word...what needs to happen?

Scriptural foundation of the scriptures.....that sounds like head knowledge @Johann ......that doesn’t sound to me like the Living word of God......?

You can’t build a foundation in Christ, in your head, you can only build a foundation in Christ, once you have been birthed in the Spirit....the foundation on what we stand on is the Living word of God...

The living word of God His Spirit lives in us/ indwells us?....

We can only know this when we have been birthed in the Spirit.....how else would you or I know we are a child of God?

Just by reading scripture?

What is scripture..very easy question to answer?

You say you sin everyday as a born again....are you saying you must repent daily to stay saved?

Imo/ belief if one believes they have to repent daily to stay saved....I doubt very much that they were saved/ birthed in the Spirit in the first place......

Salvation / Birthed in the Spirit is a done deal....one can never lose their salvation and we can never be un- birthed...please tell me what that means..?and please, try to stay away from the copying and pasting that you do so much of....





Please interpret and once again, in your own words,

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.?......interpretation please @Johann

You also said at one time that you didn’t know if you were saved, as you asked @Behold ...because you also said to me that your eternal salvation was in the balance and that I had to stay out of your conversation with Behold.?

My answer to that is....a Born again 100% knows they are saved from eternal damnation, why, because they have had that supernatural birth that only God can do....we can’t birth ourself in our head and we can’t birth ourself in the Spirit.

That is an act of God and only God, Through the Holy Spirit....again, what does that mean to you?

Romans 6:1-23 ESV / 8 helpful votes​

What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it? Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we shall certainly be united with him in a resurrection like his. ...

 

[Ritajanice]

Exactly. But we have a few "enlightened ones" who truly believe that they are sinless -- above the fray. The first epistle of John has been expunged from their bibles, since John say that they not only deceive themselves but make God a liar.

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◄ 1 John 3:9 ►

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Context Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. New Living Translation Those who have been born into God’s family do not make a practice of sinning, because God’s life is in them. So they can’t keep on sinning, because they are children of God. English Standard Version No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Standard Bible Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. Berean Literal Bible Anyone having been born of God does not practice sin, because His seed abides in him, and he is not able to continue sinning, because he has been born of God. King James Bible Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. New King James Version Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. ....can you interpret this living word of God @Enoch111 ?

What is the Living word of God saying here?

Spirit gives birth to spirit.....what does that mean?