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Do you speak of "everyone who claims Christianity"? Or of "the actual regenerate Christians"?But the church in our time is indifferent to holiness.
Actually, the wrath of God is for the sons and daughters of disobedience.The world might well be indifferent to righteousness. But the church in our time is indifferent to holiness. The wrath of God is meant for those who are indifferent to Jesus Christ....both in the world and the church. Each bears a responsibility according to the level of their calling.
It begs the question, is God wrathful towards the sons and daughters of disobedience or kindly disposed towards them?Actually, the wrath of God is for the sons and daughters of disobedience.
To whom much is given, more is required.Do you speak of "everyone who claims Christianity"? Or of "the actual regenerate Christians"?
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Have you read how Paul defines God's wrath in Romans 1?Wrath is stored up anger.
Look up these words
“The last day”
“The great and dreadful day of the Lord”
And wrath was promised 400 tears before Christ came in the book of Malachi. A promise relating only to the jewish nation to become desolated.
Be encouraged to study … as the promise of this wrath would be on the sons and daughters of disobedience (who turned from God to idol worship) - even turning over Jesus to be killed with the crime committed against God.
You can even see in the story before Jesus is taken to be crucifed.
The Jewish people saying “let his blood be on our hands and our childrens hands”, just go and look it up.
only made it halfway through your video so far. because it is so much to take in at one time. I took notes to comment on, and there are several. The comments and what i was thinking along with your video mostly all come from one passage which to me lays out and answers the question for me (imo) pertaining to "what is New Testament Holiness". 2 Corinthians 13:3-11
Blessings quietthinker. For me personally, I have no wrath or ill will toward others, and this is The Lord's doing. Only He can see both sides of the coin. But I know His wrath is coming, coming on the sons and daughters of disobedience. It is part of my calling to ask Him for mercy in the mist of His wrath. The Lord has said, "vengence is Mine, I will repay" and yet with us, we are to forgive, forgive them all. This is the heart He gives us, but only He is worthy to judge.It begs the question, is God wrathful towards the sons and daughters of disobedience or kindly disposed towards them?
I suppose God's wrath needs to be defined. Do we define it as we would our wrath? Isn't our wrath fundamentally payback?
Is that God's wrath also? If it is, does he switch from kindly disposed (loving sinners to the point of dying for them) to payback when they don't buy his bag of goods? .....and if it isn't, what is it?
You claim to know. I suppose then that's just another broadbrush smear of Christian and non-Christian alike.To whom much is given, more is required.
Amen!!Blessings quietthinker. For me personally, I have no wrath or ill will toward others, and this is The Lord's doing. Only He can see both sides of the coin. But I know His wrath is coming, coming on the sons and daughters of disobedience. It is part of my calling to ask Him for mercy in the mist of His wrath. The Lord has said, "vengence is Mine, I will repay" and yet with us, we are to forgive, forgive them all. This is the heart He gives us, but only He is worthy to judge.
This is God's wrath against individuals during their lives. God gives them over to their most vile sinfulness, to become lost in it. Those who have chosen to forget about God, and to ignore all the evidences of Him in creation.Have you read how Paul defines God's wrath in Romans 1?
Whats the context of the whole letter, Paul wrote to those believing Christians?Have you read how Paul defines God's wrath in Romans 1?
A humble person doesn't try to avoid the instructions given to those whom God is trying to warn. God warns ALL people. The humble listen and turn away from unrighteousness. But people will be people. It takes many kinds of people to make up a creation. God will judge people and sort them out.You claim to know. I suppose then that's just another broadbrush smear of Christian and non-Christian alike.
Praying for you!
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For the most part I agree with you here, though there needs to be greater clarity. God will judge all for their works, however, those who are made alive in Christ, all the redeemed, these will be spared the final judgment of the lake of fire. Being made alive in Christ IS a gift.A humble person doesn't try to avoid the instructions given to those whom God is trying to warn. God warns ALL people. The humble listen and turn away from unrighteousness. But people will be people. It takes many kinds of people to make up a creation. God will judge people and sort them out.
It is a given that a gift from God doesn't make people exempt from judgment...rather it makes judgment all the more poignant.
Religion causes people to hide away from truth and reality. For now.
Being spared the fate of the lake of fire...being saved from death...in no way ensures that we will not be rejected by Christ, or else suffer loss on judgment day. There is the destiny of outer darkness to consider. Without holiness we will not live in God's presence. If we also are not humble and God-fearing, then even a place among the saved nations will be barred from us.For the most part I agree with you here, though there needs to be greater clarity. God will judge all for their works, however, those who are made alive in Christ, all the redeemed, these will be spared the final judgment of the lake of fire. Being made alive in Christ IS a gift.
Our lives show the fruit of that gift when we speak fairly and accurately of others.
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