This does not change the other factors I've said. Will not Israel also be gathered to Jesus after the tribulation?
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Seems Jacob's trouble is Israel standing in judgment before Jesus.
The church was judged on the Cross.
The wheat is gathered after the Trumpets, during the Thunders. That would be those not of the church, nor Israel, but the last fruits gathered to live on earth during the Millennial Kingdom.
The only people left after this time of trouble are those with the mark, and those without a head, to avoid the mark.
While there are 3 distinct harvests, the church, Israel, and the wheat (remaining Gentiles), there are still only two types of people in each harvest. The church and those who rejected Christ.
Then out of those who rejected Christ, you have 3 more gatherings. Still two types of people gathered at the same time. Sheep and goats, both removed from earth at the same time. Then later the wheat and tares. Still both removed at the same time.
Then we come down to the last bunch, the "many" mentioned in Daniel 9:27.
At this point in Revelation we have those who will receive the mark and forever be removed from the Lamb's book of life. Or those beheaded who will be resurrected after Satan is bound in the pit. So the only one's who qualify as being after the final harvest or tribulation as some call it, will be those resurrected as being beheaded. Those still blessed by their testimony of having chopped off their heads. But the church is not defined in total has having to chop off their heads. They church is defined as having faith in the Atonement of the Cross, when God's wrath and judgment was resolved on the Cross. So wrath and judgment always befalls those who reject the Atonement. The church is the only group who is not on the earth during all this wrath and Judgment. And the GT is Jacob's trouble, yet still many are pronounced sheep and redeemed, because they are chosen by Jesus, Himself.
The wheat and tares are seeds sown by Jesus, Himself while on the earth along with Satan sowing his own following. Still both are gathered at the same time.
The last harvest is only about those who have the mark, as the beheaded are obviously harvested at the point they no longer have a head. After Armageddon or when the 7th Trumpet stops sounding only one type of people remain on the earth. Redeemed out of Adam's dead corruptible flesh. That is the only harvest that remains on the earth. But to be changed means out of Adam's dead corruptible flesh. They are not Christians, though that is how every one describes them. The church in Paradise are not believers nor Christians once they have become sons of God. Jesus is not a Christian. Jesus is the firstborn of the dead, a literal son of God. Once a son of God, seems the term "Christian" would no longer apply. The church will no longer exist, after the Second Coming. Since the church applies to those on earth still in Adam's dead corruptible flesh, yet redeemed.
The same for those living on earth, during the Millennium. They are no longer in Adam's dead corruptible flesh. They will be like Adam as a son of God before Adam disobeyed God. Being redeemed while in Adam's dead corruptible flesh is one thing. But no one seems to acknowledge the completed act of Daniel 9:24. That is the total removal of Adam's dead corruptible flesh. Not just enduring this dead flesh. But having this dead flesh totally removed from creation to no longer being a reality.
It would seem that Preterist and Amil pretend Adam's dead corruptible flesh is no longer in existence since the Cross. So with most pre-mill, who pretend that Adam's flesh will be gone during the Millennium. The promise God gave in Daniel 9:24 will be the reality of the Second Coming. There will be no pretending to live holy and righteous.
The Cross did not remove Adam's sad state. The Cross removed the judgment placed on Adam's offspring. Only God can remove the judgment of sin and death placed on Adam's offspring. Accepting what God did on the Cross is having faith in God. That is the definition of one redeemed. That is the church experiencing the second birth.
But those on earth during the Millennium will no longer suffer in Adam's dead corruptible flesh. No longer have a sin nature, and certainly will not have decay and death to worry about. So one cannot even understand what it is to be raptured, if one cannot understand what happens to the redeemed in Christ upon leaving this physical body.
For all those who think that Daniel 9:24 was a reality at the Cross, they sure don't think so when it comes to leaving Adam's dead corruptible flesh in physical death. They still want to have us think this old body waits in the dust to be changed in the future. That means they don't think Daniel 9:24 is fulfilled. They just pretend it was. If they thought that promise was fulfilled they would accept that those in Paradise since the Cross do have a physical body, and have already been raptured at the moment the soul left Adam's dead flesh. There is no future rapture nor resurrection for those 100% redeemed currently in Paradise. They are living out those promises already.
The last point is that many view the rapture as wrong. It will happen so fast it really does not matter. But it is the angels who are said to move the soul between physical bodies as a simple explanation. So a rapture literally takes place evey time the soul is "transported" from earth to Paradise. The dead do rise first, and have been rising first since the Cross. The repentant thief was raptured off the Cross into Paradise that day.
A soul caught up from earth to Paradise is a rapture. The only difference at the Second Coming is that it happens to all the redeemed on earth in the same blink of an eye. The angels still gather the soul in all cases. The soul does not move by itself ever, if one is going to be consistent in how a soul is gathered in any event. Those in Paradise are not going to be souls transported out of their bodies. They are not resurrected. They rise with their body. The word rise Paul uses in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 is not even the same word as resurrection.
Yet most claim a resurrection happens at the Second Coming. It can't happen at that time as no one is physically dead. The majority are in God's permanent incorruptible physical body in Paradise. The rest are those on earth in Adam's dead corruptible flesh. The only future resurrection in the NT is found in Revelation 20, and only because those souls were beheaded as an act of faith, and were not judged at the Cross per se. They are judged all at the same time. Then given a physical body, and said to have the first resurrection. They are not the church, not the sheep, and not the wheat. They are all those post trib people whose souls left Adam's dead corruptible flesh, when they were decapitated. They had to wait until after Satan was bound, to be judged and allowed a permanent incorruptible physical body to live on the earth and reign with the sheep and the wheat.