St. SteVen
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If you slip off the road...
it's too late for guardrails. You need a tow truck. - LOL
I think you mean God's law, not "the law". (given to Moses)
Check out my topic on the subject. Thanks.
Are the words of Jesus still meant for Christians?
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it's too late for guardrails. You need a tow truck. - LOL
I think you mean God's law, not "the law". (given to Moses)
Check out my topic on the subject. Thanks.
St. SteVen
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Yes. The discussion of the law on this topic is a great example. IMHO
Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things
- What's the difference between the law and the Law? (capital L) - What's the difference between the law and God's law? - What's the difference between the law, God's law, and Christ's law? The law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law; four different things. Agree, or disagree? Points...
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amigo de christo
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I dont think he ever got on the train to begin with . The man preaches a lie .
one that rejects the gospel of Christ in favor of this other social non saving christless cross false love stuff .
He dont get the fact that if one denies The TESTIMONY that GOD gave of HIS SON , they , which means all other religoins ,
are calling GOD a liar . Now how can a man be taught to pick up his cross , IF HE DONT EVEN FIRST BELIEVE
on HE WHO was CRUCIFIED ON THAT CROSS . that is vain and it wont save squat .
People have a hard time understanding Paul since he uses the word "law" to mean like at least three different things.
The law of Moses : Holiness laws based on ceremonial purity. (now superseded through Christ)
The law of God : the ten commandments (Ours to fulfill through Christ in holiness...OR doing as much as a human can do, in righteousness)
The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus : The kingdom realm in the Spirit (that most believers no longer know anything about...the devil knows his business)
Presuming you are correct about the childlike faith, how many adults [adults according to the flesh] know what childlike faith is... and/or have such faith?
When was Peter fully converted? If different from when he was fully converted, when did Peter, if ever, know all of the correct answers to the questions I posed? Can a person with below average intelligence according to human guidelines [I.Q. or Intelligence Quotient] be saved without knowing all of those answers? Did Jesus give us the answer with the following words?
| Lu 12:48 | But he that knew not, and committed things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required: and to whom men have committed much, from him they will ask the more. |
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amigo de christo
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My friend is here . Childlike faith is real simple . very simple .
And its high time folks return to it or come to it . IF GOD said SIMPLY BELEIVE .
IF JESUS said simply believe . IF the apostels said and wrote it simply BELIEVE . ITS not hard at all .
MEN , its men who complicated the bible and twisted it unto their own deceptoins and teachings that have NO Faith
let alone childlike faith . IF GOD appeared today the world would cower in fear , THEY WOULD SEE they WOULD BELEIVE .
Lambs have not seen , YET LAMBS BELIEVE . Raise those hands and praise the LORD .
ALSO if any has fear , or in error , ITS real easy to just remind them . speak truth . exhort and encourage .
But , and this is one big BUTT too my friend . if our truth contradicts the plain truth in scripture , WELL IT AINT TRUTH
no matter how loving and kind it might sound or appear to be .
You have a false religion based on human beliefs...just like any other religion. It just so happens that your claim about Jesus is true...but where is your part in it? Merely pointing at? Judas did the same thing.
Jesus died for the sins of the whole world, ESPECIALLY (but not exclusively) for those that believe. Your brain fizzes out at the very idea.
You are the liar here. You constantly attack me because I have experienced Christ...for real... not just point at Him. You have no understanding of God or else you would understand how merciful He is. Instead you attack based on a dogmatic ideology that you think comes from God...but doesn't. Your ideology kills the truth and makes God a liar. You should realize where that doctrine comes from in reality.
More lies. I have been testifying of Christ longer than you think. You are a speed bump...a religious one. You have nothing to offer but a self-gratifying obviation that is meant for your ego. That's it. All hot air. If you didn't attack what is beyond your understanding, maybe your simplicity could count for something. But we are meant to be simple in doing evil...not good. So you have it exactly backwards.
GO to God...don't just point fingers.
The truth is not understood by those who have been indoctrinated against it...immunized from hearing unto salvation.
I am reposting this from another thread I started to show why the religious ones hate my words. They HATE that God is merciful and judges BOTH with kindness AND severity. Those who oppose His mercy will be judged as harshly as they did others. We will reap as WE have sown.
Being Faithful to God
We can be faithful to God without walking on the level of the Spirit in Zion.
We can pray and meditate on His words while remaining humble and thankful in all things. We can be quick to forgive and ready to help others. We can learn to be patient and have self-control when we learn how weak we can be.
We can learn righteousness given time and practice. We can learn from our past mistakes,
Another aspect of faithfulness is the ability to esteem others as higher than ourselves. This falls under the category of meekness and humility. We can allow for others to be more advanced in spiritual things than ourselves...because we trust in God not ourselves. If and when it is time for us to do as others have done, then God will allow us to enter into a closer walk with Him...when we are ready. Until then we are to be faithful in little.
"He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much." Luke 16:10
Most of us will never experienced the higher walk that is IN Christ. However, if we are faithful in what the Lord has given to us, then we will inherit everlasting life.
How many have little...but boast of great things....even attacking the truth that doesn't exalt them... therefore being UNJUST in the little they have? If we are unjust in little...why would God give us more to be unjust with?
I am reposting this from another thread I started to show why the religious ones hate my words. They HATE that God is merciful and judges BOTH with kindness AND severity. Those who oppose His mercy will be judged as harshly as they did others. We will reap as WE have sown.
Being Faithful to God
We can be faithful to God without walking on the level of the Spirit in Zion.
We can pray and meditate on His words while remaining humble and thankful in all things. We can be quick to forgive and ready to help others. We can learn to be patient and have self-control when we learn how weak we can be.
We can learn righteousness given time and practice. We can learn from our past mistakes,
Another aspect of faithfulness is the ability to esteem others as higher than ourselves. This falls under the category of meekness and humility. We can allow for others to be more advanced in spiritual things than ourselves...because we trust in God not ourselves. If and when it is time for us to do as others have done, then God will allow us to enter into a closer walk with Him...when we are ready. Until then we are to be faithful in little.
"He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much." Luke 16:10
Most of us will never experienced the higher walk that is IN Christ. However, if we are faithful in what the Lord has given to us, then we will inherit everlasting life.
How many have little...but boast of great things....even attacking the truth that doesn't exalt them... therefore being UNJUST in the little they have? If we are unjust in little...why would God give us more to be unjust with?
@amigo de christo
Hello my friend, amigo!
amigo said:
"..IF GOD appeared today the world would cower in fear ,"
Actually, my friend, He has been here all of the time, but too many men are dead, and, in their death, they are of course both blind and deaf to God... Jesus brought Life, but how many continue to choose death while calling it"life"?
amigo said:
"THEY WOUD SEE they WOULD BELEIVE ."
" Where there is no vision, the people perish... " Prov 29:18
Amigo said:
"Raise those hands and praise the LORD ."
Amen!
Hello my friend, amigo!
amigo said:
"..IF GOD appeared today the world would cower in fear ,"
Actually, my friend, He has been here all of the time, but too many men are dead, and, in their death, they are of course both blind and deaf to God... Jesus brought Life, but how many continue to choose death while calling it"life"?
amigo said:
"THEY WOUD SEE they WOULD BELEIVE ."
" Where there is no vision, the people perish... " Prov 29:18
| "For now we see through a glass darkly; but then face to face" I Cor 13:12 Where and how does one receive this necessary vision?
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Amigo said:
"Raise those hands and praise the LORD ."
Amen!
Incredible arrogance. I poke my head in on you once every couple of months only to see that nothing has changed in you. The cancer grows unchecked. Malignant.
LOL. How typical. I am responding to a carnal religious attack made on a peaceful and edifying thread. It's obvious you are trying to goad me...to accuse me...that's your shtick. Your ego demands such things. But did you know who actually controls that ego of yours?
You came to my thread because I didn't respond to your baiting empty accusation that you linked me to.
Accuse away! I'm speaking the truth. Do what you have always done to the brethren throughout history.
I hope never to be found anywhere but on the Lord's side. Must we cast aside all or even any of our friends on planet Earth or on this forum in order to do that? Must we not simply follow along the Way that He leads us even if we cannot see as clearly as we would like to...
Hopefully, all of our friends will also be following the same Master, the same Jesus. Am I reaper of the Lord's harvest?
Hopefully, all of our friends will also be following the same Master, the same Jesus. Am I reaper of the Lord's harvest?
| Mt 13:27 | So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? |
| Mt 13:28 | He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? |
| Mt 13:29 | But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. |
| Mt 13:30 | Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. |
It's been peaceful here for a while before disruptions and disrupters come to curtail our freedom in Christ. If you read through the thread you will see how other spirits come to take away the truth. Spirits of accusation, manipulation, disruption and all manner of ill-intent.
It's normal that the truth be attacked. Those who lack any depth of faith will be used to do so. They will think that the ideas come from them. The war is real.
It's normal that the truth be attacked. Those who lack any depth of faith will be used to do so. They will think that the ideas come from them. The war is real.
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I see people qualifying or disqualifying themselves by their attitude when truth is being proclaimed. As we walk...if we remain faithful, we will see people falling on our right side and left side. Some will stop being humble, they will start to accuse, they will attack...basically disqualifying themselves from any future peace. When their ego is challenged by the Spirit...they will stiffen their necks and rebel...as has always taken place.
We are supposed to discuss the subject at hand...without attacking the person. I will allow several attacks on my person until I respond.
What did Paul do to the young lady that followed him around all day? Did he not let her say her peace until enough was enough?
Do people come here to do the poll...or to look for false accusation material?
Your response provides the evidence and testifies to the truth of that ‘other thread’ you reference.
Have a nice day Epis… as you were.
That other thread was you doing your normal accusations against the brethren. You are precisely what you accuse me of. But you can't see past that mountainous ego of yours. Mr. E... as you will be.
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Yes, the war is real. Who are the soldiers of Christ? We are only able to choose for ourselves to be His or not. For others are we able to do more than advise as God leads us? Too often this supposedly Christian forum sounds too much like the major parties on the national secular political scene in the United States [and elsewhere.]
Let us remember carefully Jesus' words here:
| Joh 17:11 | And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. |
The ego trusts in the carnal mind of the outer man. If ear tickling preachers present an ideological scheme that caters to that kind of mind...using the bible to back it up through misinterpretation....then the very arrogance and certainty that this engenders leads people to think they can use whatever means that the carnal mind possesses to make their point.
A tree is known of its fruit.
A tree is known of its fruit.
Yes, they are falling all around us. In my own natural family, I see too many things and often I can but bite my own tongue. If I am not there now, I certainly have been there in my own history. God has led me out, but am I completely out of the world and its ways? I hope to always be able to say that with His help I am still growing becoming always more like Him.
Episkopos said:
"We are supposed to discuss the subject at hand...without attacking the person. I will allow several attacks on my person until I respond."
Such ideal discussion would be a good thing, but too seldom is it seen in many places.
I seldom am able any more to participate as I have done in the past. God has, purposely I suppose, put me in some difficult places recently. Sometimes I believe that I have an answer, but then He checks me and I am unable to "open my mouth".
My desk top computer is failing me, so I have switched to a laptop I bought earlier this year. It won't work right for me. I know it is me unable to keep up with the technology. I need to stick with God. He is alway right up to date.
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