Does God care more for himself than he cares for us?

[St. SteVen]

God is amazing. He is the ultimate embodiment of love, compassion, and mercy. He is the epitome of justice, righteousness, and holiness. His character is characterized by infinite wisdom, perfect sovereignty, and unending grace. God is the source of all goodness, the giver of life, and the provider of every need. He is faithful, patient, and unfailing in His promises. His character is unchangeable, constant, and unfathomable. God is the perfect example of love and goodness, worthy of our trust, adoration, and worship. God is so good to us.

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[St. SteVen]

God is amazing. He is the ultimate embodiment of love, compassion, and mercy. He is the epitome of justice, righteousness, and holiness. His character is characterized by infinite wisdom, perfect sovereignty, and unending grace. God is the source of all goodness, the giver of life, and the provider of every need. He is faithful, patient, and unfailing in His promises. His character is unchangeable, constant, and unfathomable. God is the perfect example of love and goodness, worthy of our trust, adoration, and worship. God is so good to us.

Sounds like he cares more for us than he does for himself. Agree?

 

[Stumpmaster]

Sounds like he cares more for us than he does for himself. Agree?

While Christ was on earth He always did the Father's Will.

Heb 5:7-10 During the days of Jesus’ earthly life, He offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the One who could save Him from death, and He was heard because of His reverence. (8) Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from what He suffered. (9) And having been made perfect, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him (10) and was designated by God as high priest in the order of Melchizedek.

Joh 6:37-38 Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away. (38) For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me.

Mat 26:39 And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.”

 

[Wick Stick]

@St. SteVen

Isn't a major part of the gospel the union of God and man? I think so. If we become one with God, if we are in symbiosis with Him, then does this question even make sense?

How can God prioritize Himself over man, when man has a standing invitation to participate in the Godhead?

 

[St. SteVen]

@St. SteVen

Isn't a major part of the gospel the union of God and man? I think so. If we become one with God, if we are in symbiosis with Him, then does this question even make sense?

How can God prioritize Himself over man, when man has a standing invitation to participate in the Godhead?

That's an interesting point.
My question actually addresses, or speaks about, a segment of Christianity that
actually believes that God cares more for himself than he does for us. Sometimes you
have to speak in the language of your audience to be understood.

I see you have made over 50 posts now. You probably got an award for that?
Time to start creating topics. Your post hints at one. Or maybe weigh in on this topic.

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[beyondyours11]

Sounds like he cares more for us than he does for himself. Agree?

It sure does. He is wonderful.

 

[Stumpmaster]

Isaiah wasn't buying the line that God doesn't care for His own.

Isa 51:3 For the LORD shall comfort Zion: he will comfort all her waste places; and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the LORD; joy and gladness shall be found therein, thanksgiving, and the voice of melody.

Habakkuk didn't think God didn't care about the deprivations His Judgment bought.

Hab 3:17-19 Though the fig tree should not blossom, nor fruit be on the vines, the produce of the olive fail and the fields yield no food, the flock be cut off from the fold and there be no herd in the stalls, (18) yet I will rejoice in the LORD; I will take joy in the God of my salvation. (19) GOD, the Lord, is my strength; he makes my feet like the deer's; he makes me tread on my high places. To the choirmaster: with stringed instruments.

Peter had this idea.

1Pe 1:8-9 Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, (9) now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

 

[L.A.M.B.]

It sure does. He is wonderful.

Welcome to CB.

 

[Ritajanice]

That phrase is CULT theology phrase.

Its not found in a real Bible.

Maybe you should try using one, and leave John Calvinism in the trash bin, where Its designed to belong.

Online source.

We will call this his “sovereign will” or his “will of decree.” It cannot be broken. It always comes to pass. “He does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, 'What have you done? '” (Daniel 4:35).

Psalm 115:3

“Our God is in heaven; he does whatever pleases him.”

 

[St. SteVen]

Online source.

We will call this his “sovereign will” or his “will of decree.” It cannot be broken. It always comes to pass. “He does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand or say to him, 'What have you done? '” (Daniel 4:35).

Psalm 115:3

Interesting view of God.

If we do whatever we want, it's called sin.
If God does whatever he wants, it's called sovereignty.

If we do whatever we want God demands to know, "What have you done?"
Daniel tells us this about God, "none can stay his hand or say to him, 'What have you done? '"

Does God care more for us than he cares for himself? Not according to that logic.

 

[Ritajanice]

If we do whatever we want, it's called sin.

Of the flesh it’s called sin, do you mean?

 

[Ritajanice]

If we do whatever we want God demands to know, "What have you done?"
Daniel tells us this about God, "none can stay his hand or say to him, 'What have you done? '"

God wants the best for us,Brother, that’s his will for his children lives..therefore we learn with those spiritual ears and eyes, to tap into the Holy Spirit and be led by His Spirit.

What say you?...By the way I like your humour...

 

[Lambano]

If we do whatever we want, it's called sin.
If God does whatever he wants, it's called sovereignty.

If we do whatever we want God demands to know, "What have you done?"
Daniel tells us this about God, "none can stay his hand or say to him, 'What have you done? '"

Hey, "Might makes Right". The one who makes the rules can break the rules. Humanity learned that Biblical principle all too well.

Does God care more for us than he cares for himself? Not according to that logic.

If I accept Incarnation (and a Substitutionary view of the Atonement) as true, I see something different. I see Philippians 2:5-8 and John 3:16. But that's getting a little too close to the subject we can't discuss.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
If we do whatever we want, it's called sin.

Of the flesh it’s called sin, do you mean?

Package it however you like.

Wrong is wrong.
Unless deity operates under an inferior moral code.
Does God hold us to a higher standard than he holds himself?

 

[St. SteVen]

God wants the best for us,Brother, that’s his will for his children lives..therefore we learn with those spiritual ears and eyes, to tap into the Holy Spirit and be led by His Spirit.

Of course.
So, let's not make Him the bad guy here.

What say you?...By the way I like your humour...

Thanks.
My Dad taught me not to act like I had been baptized in pickle brine.
Good advise, I think. He liked my sense of humor as well.
I enjoyed making him laugh.

 

[St. SteVen]

If I accept Incarnation as true, I see something different. But that's getting a little too close to the subject we can't discuss.

The elephant in the room.

 

[Lambano]

The elephant in the room.

Besides, my theology could be wrong. Yes, I know that's hard to believe, but I could be wrong.

(I should never admit that on a public forum.)

 

[Ritajanice]

Does God hold us to a higher standard than he holds himself?

I don’t believe God beats us with a broom, not sure about a higher standard...nothing wrong with a moral high standard, I can only live up to God, through the Holy Spirit, pointing things out to me and he certainly does that imo....

Brother....how on earth can we have a higher standard than GOD.

He’s PERFECTION...

No, I don’t believe he holds us to a higher standard.than he holds to himself

 

[Ritajanice]

Besides, my theology could be wrong. Yes, I know that's hard to believe, but I could be wrong.

Mine too..always learning in Christ, Brother.

 

[St. SteVen]

Besides, my theology could be wrong. Yes, I know that's hard to believe, but I could be wrong.

(I should never admit that on a public forum.)

Dude...
That's the kiss of death on a Christian forum.
Honesty is a terrible idea. - LOL