I agree.
But I have heard that some Christians understand that Jesus taught us to love our enemies,
but then they turn around and claim he will incinerate His enemies. That is NOT love.
Does God care more for himself than he cares for us?
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But I have heard that some Christians understand that Jesus taught us to love our enemies,
but then they turn around and claim he will incinerate His enemies. That is NOT love.
Lambano
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After thinking about it (big mistake), I'm now strongly questioning whether expecting God to put us before Himself is a healthy attitude to have.
7 “Now which of you, having a slave plowing or tending sheep, will say to him after he comes in from the field, ‘Come immediately and recline at the table to eat’? 8 On the contrary, will he not say to him, ‘Prepare something for me to eat, and properly clothe yourself and serve me while I eat and drink; and afterward you may eat and drink’?" (Luke 17:7-8)
The fact that Christ DID put us (and His Father) before Himself is something to be extremely grateful for (and emulate) precisely BECAUSE it is something we should in no ways expect. (Gosh, we are a generation that feels entitled, aren't we?)
4 Do not look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. 5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, as He existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death: death on a cross. (Philippians 2:4-8)
Which is why Grace is Amazing.
7 “Now which of you, having a slave plowing or tending sheep, will say to him after he comes in from the field, ‘Come immediately and recline at the table to eat’? 8 On the contrary, will he not say to him, ‘Prepare something for me to eat, and properly clothe yourself and serve me while I eat and drink; and afterward you may eat and drink’?" (Luke 17:7-8)
The fact that Christ DID put us (and His Father) before Himself is something to be extremely grateful for (and emulate) precisely BECAUSE it is something we should in no ways expect. (Gosh, we are a generation that feels entitled, aren't we?)
4 Do not look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others. 5 Have this attitude in yourselves which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, as He existed in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself by taking the form of a bond-servant and being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death: death on a cross. (Philippians 2:4-8)
Which is why Grace is Amazing.
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Rella ~ I am a woman
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Think how a man and a woman become one when they marry and consummate that marriage.
(Genesis 2:24,Matthew 19:5,Mark 10:8,Ephesians 5:31,1 Corinthians 6:16)
YET, look at what 1 Corinthians 11:13 says....
But I want you to understand that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of a woman, and God is the head of Christ.
If the man is head over the woman who is one flesh with him, surly God... the creator.... can certainly "prioritize" Himself over man even in a union.
GODS ELECT, ZADOK.
Let me make this clear to everyone. God appointed me shepherd over Israel and gentiles.
I don't have lot patience for nonsense.
The election are predestined, chosen before foundation of the world. God judged the election in first earth age, romans chapter 8 to document.
The election don't have free will.
The position for Elect can't be volunteered for.
What would happen if someone impersonating a cop??
Serious consequences !!.
We have some false brethren who are self appointed. God didn't send them !!.
Jeremiah chapter 23 to document.
Every generation there's holy seed. It's God's Elect, Isaiah chapter 6 to document.
Each generation has leader of the church.
One of God's Elect may get to old. Jesus picks another to carry on the mantle. Get the picture.
Jesus doesn't play favorites.
Yes. Theirs other Elect. One will stand out, humbly speaking.
There's many people who don't have holy spirit. They have spirit of stupor. The wicked don't have spirit of stupor. We have two different categories.
Romans chapter 11 to document, some people have spirit of stupor.
God's Election have holy spirit.
Reprobates are romans 1:28/1:18
2 Timothy 3:8
Titus 1:16 . Reprobates are corrupt and worthless. Habitual sinners applys.
John 14;26. Don't have holy spirit. Selfishness. Corrupt. Close minded.
Second group. Our ancestors or aunts or uncles or grand parents. They do love God. But churches programmes them from early age. They were manipulated and brainwashed by some denominations.
Gods Elect try to reprogram them by planting seeds. During millennium, this group has opportunity for eternal life. They didn't have prayer of chance in the flesh. Get the picture.
The reprobates will follow satan into lake of fire on judgement day.
I'm not judging anyone.
Jesus wants the truth told.
I won't sugar coat Gods word for you.
God's Elect, Zadok.
Let me make this clear to everyone. God appointed me shepherd over Israel and gentiles.
I don't have lot patience for nonsense.
The election are predestined, chosen before foundation of the world. God judged the election in first earth age, romans chapter 8 to document.
The election don't have free will.
The position for Elect can't be volunteered for.
What would happen if someone impersonating a cop??
Serious consequences !!.
We have some false brethren who are self appointed. God didn't send them !!.
Jeremiah chapter 23 to document.
Every generation there's holy seed. It's God's Elect, Isaiah chapter 6 to document.
Each generation has leader of the church.
One of God's Elect may get to old. Jesus picks another to carry on the mantle. Get the picture.
Jesus doesn't play favorites.
Yes. Theirs other Elect. One will stand out, humbly speaking.
There's many people who don't have holy spirit. They have spirit of stupor. The wicked don't have spirit of stupor. We have two different categories.
Romans chapter 11 to document, some people have spirit of stupor.
God's Election have holy spirit.
Reprobates are romans 1:28/1:18
2 Timothy 3:8
Titus 1:16 . Reprobates are corrupt and worthless. Habitual sinners applys.
John 14;26. Don't have holy spirit. Selfishness. Corrupt. Close minded.
Second group. Our ancestors or aunts or uncles or grand parents. They do love God. But churches programmes them from early age. They were manipulated and brainwashed by some denominations.
Gods Elect try to reprogram them by planting seeds. During millennium, this group has opportunity for eternal life. They didn't have prayer of chance in the flesh. Get the picture.
The reprobates will follow satan into lake of fire on judgement day.
I'm not judging anyone.
Jesus wants the truth told.
I won't sugar coat Gods word for you.
God's Elect, Zadok.
"Jesus doesn't play favorites"? - LOL
Your whole post is about election and a lack of free will.
How can there be any reprobates if EVERYONE is predestined to either life or destruction?
Nonsense. Reprobation requires free-will.
"I'm not judging anyone."? Appears you are judging, or should I say pre-judging everyone. ???
Patience is a part of the Fruit of the Spirit.
We should all have lots of that.
Probably time to reorder if you are running short.
Check with Amazon. - LOL
Rella ~ I am a woman
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Well you neglect to mention that only certain ones have been predestined, chosen before foundation of the world.
Jeremiah: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, And before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”
Psalm 139: Your eyes saw my unformed substance; in your book were written, every one of them, the days that were formed for me, when as yet there was none of them.
Ephesians 1: Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Isaiah 44: Even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love
Go ahead.... check them all out ... and the rest that are in the 4 corners of the Holy Bible and you will see this
does not apply to everyone... but those who God had a plan for.
Lambano
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I didn't neglect certain ones are predestined. All of God's Elect have holy spirit and are chosen before foundation of the world, ephesians chapter 1, first Peter chapter 1.
When individual achievers more spirtual growth, Jesus will use the that Elect individual for more crucial things.
You don't like my honesty and direct frankness.
Apostle Paul was known to be most zeal for God and very bold. Lot of people didn't like Paul.
Body of christ is unity and for edifying.
Let's keep it this way.
I moved on to other subjects.
With all do respect. Your not very bright.
I broke down two groups to you.
Isaiah chapter 6. One group has a spirit of stupor. They have spirtual blindness. This group doesn't have holy spirit.
Second group. These are reprobates, habitual sinners. They don't have holy spirit. 2 Corinthians 13:7.
2 Corinthians 1:1
Proverbs 13:6
This group is corrupt. They are habitual sinners. Wont repent and conform to God's standard.
They are incapable of performing God's functions of moral discrimination. They suppress the truth. Even teach tradition of men and false doctrine.
Jeremiah 6:30. Reprobate silver is rejected. The silver is tested and found flawed or false.
Reprobates miss the mark. This group won't repent. They wont conform to God's standard. Not sincere and diligent towards God.
Romans chapter 1, God judges the reprobates. Gods Elect practice spirtual discernment. The election tell the truth.
ADOKIMOS in Greek means = unworthy, worthless cast away. They resist holy spirit. Reprobates are only fit for the dung hill. They failed the test.
Thier deeds words give them away.
Other group are spiritually dead. They went to church all thier life, and were manipulated and taught traditions of men. Some of them do love God. They didn't know any better. During millennium, they will have opportunity for eternal life.
Second group. Reprobates. They follow satan into lake of fire at end of millennium. They wont repent and conform to God's standard.
Amazon is to ambiguous.
Hall mark is up your alley. Simple card for the simple minded.
No, I don't judge people. I practice spirtual discernment. Jesus is the judge.
I'm not wasting any more time on this thread. I moved on to other subjects.
LOL
Did you really write that? (appears so)
He says I'm not too bright.
Calls me simple minded and then claims he doesn't judge people. - LOL
Um.. you may want to rethink what you wrote here.
Lambano
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Should be a drive-up window, or home delivery.
Maybe an all download. But a quick one.
Never did hear back from the fruitless one.
@Lambano
I visited an apple orchard yesterday.
We had somewhat of a drought this year, but it didn't harm the orchard.
The trees were loaded with apples. Big, plump, and juicy.
Encountered the man who does the harvesting.
He encouraged us to stuff our pockets full of apples.
He said he was trying to get rid of them.
When we got to the store at the end of our walk through the orchard
we were wanting to buy some apples. But my wife only wanted a half bag.
So, I asked the same guy if we could buy a half bag. He rolled his eyes and asked,
"Don't you eat apples?!!" - LOL
... Okay, okay, we'll take a whole bag.
Reminded me of our fruit discussion here.
Your real arrogant. You don't know the difference between free will and predestined.
It shows your ignorance and envy. You know your not one of God's Elect. Your reprobate!!.
You don't respect me.
I sure in hell don't respect you.
As far as judging. I gave my personal assessment on you. False accusations come easy by your ignorant hatred.
You made number of personal attacks on me. Deuteronomy chapter 32, our enemies have become our judges. Your doing it.
Reprobates have free will. Gods Elect don't have free will.
Difference is. You won't repent and conform to God's standard. Your fake. Your driven by envy. I'm not judging you. I'm telling you the truth.
Accusations are your principal. Your spirtualty dead and you know it!!.
Fruitless. Your the dead branch. Dead works. I'm disgusted.
You made it personal. I won't be bullied by you !!.
Have nice life.
You should visit an apple orchard.
Could use some good fruit.
You seem to like fruit cake. ???
@Lambano
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